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Old 01-04-2001, 06:55 PM   #1
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I can't help but wonder...did the elves that awoke at Cuivienen have belly buttons? <img src=biggrin.gif ALT="">

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Old 01-04-2001, 07:50 PM   #2
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Re: Belly buttons?

No, but they did have wings. <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b">

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Old 01-05-2001, 11:39 AM   #3
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Re: Belly buttons?

Warning; Bad Joke Alert.

Yes. Why else do you think it was called Cuiv-innie-en?

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Old 01-05-2001, 12:06 PM   #4
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Thanks for the warning, Saulotus. I might have groaned aloud if not for it. <img src=wink.gif ALT="">

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Re: Belly buttons?

Saulotus, I really think....

oh, never mind.

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Re: Belly buttons?

Saulotus.....as Dr. Smith would say, &quot;Oh, the pain.&quot;

Anyway, now that the...errrr...&quot;jokes&quot; have died down, HoME 11 relates that......I should leave everyone hanging, wondering just how much detail JRRT put into his work......Hee, hee.

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<blockquote>Quote:<hr> &quot;While their first bodies were being made from the 'flesh of Arda' the Quendi slept 'in the womb of the Earth', beneath the green sward, and awoke when they were full-grown.&quot; <hr></blockquote>

Make of it what you will. &quot;Womb of the Earth&quot;. Belly buttons could be possible. (resists posting incredibly bad pun concerning the Teleri and their &quot;naval mentality&quot

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Re: Belly buttons?

Well,elves and men are supposed to be very alike physically, so it could be assumed elves have belly buttons. And avoidance of &quot;naval&quot; jokes is greatly appreciated. <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

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And what of the Fathers of Men? Did they have belly buttons when they awakened in the East? I can't say for either case.


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haha, interesting question. If firstborn elves did not, then did the first humans who awoke have belly buttons?
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Old 06-21-2002, 01:38 PM   #11
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Which begs the question: did Ents have belly-buttons, or just little knot holes?
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Old 06-21-2002, 09:03 PM   #13
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Har har, that's corny. If they were born from the wombs of ent-wives, I suppose they would have bellybuttons, now wouldn't they [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]?

Now how came it that the elves born in Cuivienen had wings but no other elf afterward did? Or did they?

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Did any of the orcs have belly buttons? Or maybe they weren't born?
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Old 06-25-2002, 02:40 PM   #15
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I think it says somewhere something like "They guessed the orcs had to be derived from the elves, for they had life spirit and bred in the same way as the children of Ilúvatar.." I am not sure on the quote, but I think it says something like that.. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:35 PM   #16
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How can you be so sure that Ents come from the wombs of Entwives? Why not seeds?
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What about dwarves? the first seven faterhs can't have belly butons, but did their descendants have? And how did they reproduce, when all the first dwarves where male?
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I don't think that the first people of either nation (except for orcs) had belly buttons (considering that you get one only after you are born - ie when the umbilical cord is cut and made into a knot). The Elves at Cuivienen weren't born - they just awoke. Same goes for Dwarves and men. Orcs are different, since they are "made" from pre-existing Elves, that might have had belly buttons.
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