Im a Lord of the Rings failure!! - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Morgoth Bauglir · 06-09-2003, 03:19 PM

Its been so long since ive read them, so i have another question [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] and my brother stole all the books

Gandalf was a maiar, but which Valar did he serve?I forget!

Phoenix · 06-09-2003, 03:53 PM

I know this one, I know who it is, but I just can't seem to remember what his name is. He is the head god, so to speak the brother of Melkor, so if you can remember who that is, he was the head god.

Lalaith · 06-09-2003, 04:06 PM

The Encyclopaedia of Arda says he served Manwe (the 'head god' of whom you speak) and his spouse Varda.
But perhaps I read somewhere that he was a Maia of Lorien (that is, the home of the god of dreams in Valinor)

Meela · 06-09-2003, 05:42 PM

He was a Maia of Manwe, but a pupil of Nienna (?). Well, a pupil of one of the Valar other than Manwe.

Yavanna228 · 06-09-2003, 05:52 PM

Yes indeed, Meela, he was taught pity and patience by Nienna although he lived in Lorien. And Morgoth Bauglir, I'm sure you're not a failure, not by a long shot. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Peace

[ June 09, 2003: Message edited by: Yavanna228 ]

Phoenix · 06-09-2003, 06:20 PM

Oh yeah, it waaaaaas Manwe. I don't happen to own a copy of The Silmarillion, and that I am working on, so forgive me.

Morgoth Bauglir · 06-09-2003, 07:52 PM

ok good i thought so!Im still a failure though lol!I remembered that part where manwe tells him to go and help defeat sauron. and then he pussies out and tells manwe hes scared and too weak [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] and then manwe says thats all the more reason to go

thanks everyone!

Aragost · 06-11-2003, 01:45 PM

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Pupil Of Nienna (?)

Didn't Yavanna teach him discipline

Aragost · 06-11-2003, 01:49 PM

Maybe I'm Wrong

Beren87 · 06-12-2003, 12:55 PM

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There are here also some rough tables relating the names of the Istari to the names of the Valar: Olorin to Manwë and Varda, Curumo to Aulë, Aiwendil to Yavanna, Alatar to Oromë, and Pallando also to Oromë

So Gandalf was a Maiar of Manwë, of a sort anyway. He was taught much by Nienna, including discipline.

Yavanna did not interact with Olorin all that much. Aiwendil was the pupil of Yavanna.

[ June 12, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 06-12-2003, 10:13 PM

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So Gandalf was a Maiar of Manwë, of a sort anyway.

Maia of Manwë, honestly.

[ June 13, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

Beren87 · 06-13-2003, 11:20 AM

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Maia of Manwë, honestly.

Hey, Gandalf may have Multiple-Personality Disorder. He could be more than one person.

Thanks [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

06-09-2003, 03:19 PM	#1
Morgoth Bauglir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 252	Im a Lord of the Rings failure!! Its been so long since ive read them, so i have another question [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] and my brother stole all the books Gandalf was a maiar, but which Valar did he serve?I forget!

06-09-2003, 04:06 PM	#3
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	The Encyclopaedia of Arda says he served Manwe (the 'head god' of whom you speak) and his spouse Varda. But perhaps I read somewhere that he was a Maia of Lorien (that is, the home of the god of dreams in Valinor) __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

06-09-2003, 05:42 PM	#4
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	He was a Maia of Manwe, but a pupil of Nienna (?). Well, a pupil of one of the Valar other than Manwe. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

06-09-2003, 05:52 PM	#5
Yavanna228 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: on the wings of the morning Posts: 394	Yes indeed, Meela, he was taught pity and patience by Nienna although he lived in Lorien. And Morgoth Bauglir, I'm sure you're not a failure, not by a long shot. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Peace [ June 09, 2003: Message edited by: Yavanna228 ] __________________ 'Dulaman na Binne Bui, Dulaman Gaelach/ Dulaman na farraige, 's e b'fhearr a bhi in Eirinn!'

06-11-2003, 01:49 PM	#9
Aragost Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Arthedain Posts: 137	Maybe I'm Wrong __________________ Where there's a whip there's a will

06-09-2003, 03:53 PM	#2
Phoenix Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 15	I know this one, I know who it is, but I just can't seem to remember what his name is. He is the head god, so to speak the brother of Melkor, so if you can remember who that is, he was the head god.

06-09-2003, 06:20 PM	#6
Phoenix Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 15	Oh yeah, it waaaaaas Manwe. I don't happen to own a copy of The Silmarillion, and that I am working on, so forgive me.

06-09-2003, 07:52 PM	#7
Morgoth Bauglir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 252	ok good i thought so!Im still a failure though lol!I remembered that part where manwe tells him to go and help defeat sauron. and then he pussies out and tells manwe hes scared and too weak [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] and then manwe says thats all the more reason to go thanks everyone!