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05-08-2003, 03:56 AM

Where in relation to middle earth is Beleriand??

Numenorean · 05-08-2003, 06:52 AM

Hi Turin,
Check this out:Map Beleriand is the blue land to the west of ME. Hope that helps you out a bit [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Aule · 05-08-2003, 08:12 AM

Its to the west of ered luin (blue mountains). Thats right up in the top left hand corner of the ususual ME map that you would see in LotR.Map of Beleriand
Maybe its useful.
Also take a look at Encyclopaedia of Ardafor loadsa information that may help you.
Hope its been useful

Aule · 05-08-2003, 08:15 AM

Actually Numenorians map is far more detailed, so take a look at his. Although it may take a while to download if your on a 56k, i'm on broadband and its taking a while. The map i have linked to is far smaller but no way near as detailed.
Your choice. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Ailios · 05-08-2003, 01:40 PM

The Numenorian's map is wrong. The scales of the LotR an the Silmarillion maps are different. You have to scale down the Beleriand map so that it matches the LotR map. Harlindon is essentially Ossiriand, Forlindon is Thargelion, and the Gulf of Lune is where Mt Dolmed was in the first age.

Legolas · 05-08-2003, 03:05 PM

Attached to the northwest corner, just above the Grey Havens in Lindon. It was covered by water at the end of the First Age.

[ May 08, 2003: Message edited by: Legolas ]

Afrodal Fenyar · 05-09-2003, 10:52 AM

Noticed how there are sort of "boxes" in Middle-Earth's map? The first "box" is the area between the Blue Mountains and the Misty Mountains, and the second one is from the Misty Mountains to the Sea of Rhûn. Beleriand was about the same size as that first box. I've always thought it like that.

Himring is the same as Himling, that small island which is shown in some of the maps. Scale it down so that it, and the one's Ailios mentioned fit. Numenorean's map shows Beleriand being much too large.

Legolas · 05-10-2003, 12:02 PM

A very fundamental and easily-answered question. Moving to N&N.

05-08-2003, 03:56 AM	#1
Turin_5 Guest Posts: n/a	Middle earth and Beleriand?? Where in relation to middle earth is Beleriand??

05-08-2003, 06:52 AM	#2
Numenorean Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bay of Eldanna Posts: 94	Hi Turin, Check this out:Map Beleriand is the blue land to the west of ME. Hope that helps you out a bit [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ '…Avallónë, the haven of the Eldar upon Eressëa, easternmost of the Undying Lands, and thence at times the Firstborn still would come sailing to Númenor in oarless boats, as white birds flying from the sunset…'

05-08-2003, 08:12 AM	#3
Aule Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hammering away in Valinor Posts: 126	Its to the west of ered luin (blue mountains). Thats right up in the top left hand corner of the ususual ME map that you would see in LotR.Map of Beleriand Maybe its useful. Also take a look at Encyclopaedia of Ardafor loadsa information that may help you. Hope its been useful __________________ For him that is pitiless, the deeds of pity are ever strange and beyond reckoning - of Melkor before his final downfall

05-08-2003, 08:15 AM	#4
Aule Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hammering away in Valinor Posts: 126	Actually Numenorians map is far more detailed, so take a look at his. Although it may take a while to download if your on a 56k, i'm on broadband and its taking a while. The map i have linked to is far smaller but no way near as detailed. Your choice. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ For him that is pitiless, the deeds of pity are ever strange and beyond reckoning - of Melkor before his final downfall

05-08-2003, 01:40 PM	#5
Ailios Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Forochel Posts: 28	The Numenorian's map is wrong. The scales of the LotR an the Silmarillion maps are different. You have to scale down the Beleriand map so that it matches the LotR map. Harlindon is essentially Ossiriand, Forlindon is Thargelion, and the Gulf of Lune is where Mt Dolmed was in the first age. __________________ Ailios

05-08-2003, 03:05 PM	#6
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	Attached to the northwest corner, just above the Grey Havens in Lindon. It was covered by water at the end of the First Age. [ May 08, 2003: Message edited by: Legolas ] __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

05-09-2003, 10:52 AM	#7
Afrodal Fenyar Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 94	Noticed how there are sort of "boxes" in Middle-Earth's map? The first "box" is the area between the Blue Mountains and the Misty Mountains, and the second one is from the Misty Mountains to the Sea of Rhûn. Beleriand was about the same size as that first box. I've always thought it like that. Himring is the same as Himling, that small island which is shown in some of the maps. Scale it down so that it, and the one's Ailios mentioned fit. Numenorean's map shows Beleriand being much too large. __________________ "Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing. To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking: Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!" ~Eomer

05-10-2003, 12:02 PM	#8
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	A very fundamental and easily-answered question. Moving to N&N. __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.