swords and other weapons - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-09-2003, 04:07 PM

any facts?

Tar-Palantir · 05-09-2003, 05:54 PM

They kill people. Can you be more specific?

Bill Ferny · 05-09-2003, 06:58 PM

I really have to stop eating all those apples people throw at me. I could re-cycle. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-09-2003, 09:38 PM

can you name some that are in Lord of the Rings?

Tar-Palantir · 05-09-2003, 11:12 PM

Aeglos
Aiglos
Andúril
Anglachel
Angrist
Anguirel
Aranrúth
Beater
Biter
Dramborleg
Flame of the West
Foe-hammer
Glamdring
Goblin-cleaver
Grond, battering-ram
Grond, Hammer of the Underworld
Gurthang
Gúthwinë
Hammer of the Underworld
Herugrim
Iron of Death
Narsil
Orcrist
Ringil
Shards of Narsil
Sting
Sword of Elendil
Sword-that-was-Broken

Some doubles in there, I just copied it [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

go here for the scoop.

If you have read LotR then you know the weapons are just the basic kind, with few exceptions. The Rings of Power come to mind...

[ May 10, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-10-2003, 08:50 AM

do you know what kind of bow Legolas used
[img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Meela · 05-10-2003, 09:07 AM

Swords are useful for two things:

Whacking people on the head and tripping people up.

(This makes no sense unless you've read my documentary, so ignore it [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] but it is true, as Faramir found out...)

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-10-2003, 09:09 AM

you have a documentary on tripping people with swords?

Meela · 05-10-2003, 09:15 AM

It was v. brief, like one sentence...
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/estelofgon...ftherings.html

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-10-2003, 09:18 AM

oh i see

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-10-2003, 06:33 PM

any others...?

[ May 10, 2003: Message edited by: Thorin Oakenshield ]

Iarwain · 05-10-2003, 09:01 PM

Hehe. Legolas' bow was made in Lothlorien out of real elf hair (sort of gross, I know)

Iarwain

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-11-2003, 08:16 AM

what is so great about the Andúril?

Meela · 05-11-2003, 08:24 AM

well, its Narsil... (i think...) cut the ring from sauron's hand and all. pretty grand sword.

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-11-2003, 12:13 PM

isn't The Ring consitered a weapon?

MLD-Grounds-Keeper-Willie · 05-11-2003, 12:54 PM

Yes, sort of. I guess by Sauron, but I think he'd rather called it his wife [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] . It can be considered a weapon, but a perilous one, it can also be considered a tool, but again, a perilous one.

Meela · 05-11-2003, 02:40 PM

Us down at Gondor see it as a weapon. And a good one at that.

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-12-2003, 06:02 AM

yes a dangerous but usefull weapon... [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

05-13-2003, 05:28 PM

I believe Gandalf said that the rings of power were tools that gauged the power,will, and intentions of the bearer and then acted or enhanced upon ther desire to do an intended task. Whether it be as a weapon , to create, to protect etc.etc.etc.
So they could be a weapon but were much more multi-fasated than that.

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-14-2003, 03:35 PM

so did Aragorn own the Andúril?

GaladrieloftheOlden · 05-14-2003, 04:08 PM

It was passed down to him, so yes, he did own Anduril.

~Menelien

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-14-2003, 05:31 PM

who passed it on to him? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-14-2003, 08:22 PM

i forgot.....

GaladrieloftheOlden · 05-14-2003, 08:30 PM

Originally it was called Narsil, and it was the sword of Elendil. I don't know whether it was passed on to Isildur, or it was originally his sword. Anyhow, it was broken, and then Isildur cut Sauron's ring-finger off with the Shards of Narsil. They were passed through the generations, until Aragorn had it reforged by the Elves, and renamed it as Anduril. I think that's about right.

~Menelien

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-14-2003, 08:31 PM

cool

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-14-2003, 08:34 PM

now lets talk about sting(very short history that i know of
All i know that Bilbo used it in many of his adventures, and he then passed it o to Frodo........ is there more behind this weapon? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Elfchick7 · 05-14-2003, 08:36 PM

Hello!! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] How could ya'll forget Hadafang??? [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] I know it's not in the books but it's Arwen's sword and Elrond uses it in the openig battle in the FOTR. [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img]

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-14-2003, 08:38 PM

***!!! oh sorry... that reply came out of nowhere!lol o and what the monkey is Hadafang? never heard of it

Elfchick7 · 05-14-2003, 08:44 PM

Ok. You know the sword that Arwen pull out in the "flight to the Ford" scene? That is Hadafang. It can also be seen in the begining of Fotr when Elrond is leading the army of elves into battle.

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-14-2003, 08:49 PM

oh i remember, thanks for bringing it up. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Elfchick7 · 05-14-2003, 08:54 PM

Welcome. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-16-2003, 09:18 PM

Now lets get back to Sting the sword.......

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-16-2003, 09:26 PM

so what is the history of sting?

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-17-2003, 08:18 PM

Sting was a short sword forged by the Elven smiths of Gondolin during the First Age. It was forged for use in the fight against Morgoth's armies and shone blue when Orcs were near.

After the fall of Gondolin, nothing is known of its history until it turned up in the hoard of William Huggins, Bert and Tom, the Trolls that Bilbo and company came across in The Hobbit.

Bilbo named the weapon Sting after he had used it to kill the Spider that had been trying to bind him in its webs in Mirkwood:

Quote:

"I will give you a name," he said to it, "and I shall call you Sting."

Bilbo passed Sting on to Frodo at Rivendell, and Frodo bore it on the remainder of his journey to destroy the Ring.

Thorin Oakenshield · 05-22-2003, 06:04 AM

So it came from the elves..........

Ophelia · 06-05-2003, 11:46 AM

Yup . It really came from the Elves .
And Bilbo Baggins and Dwarves found two more swords in a troll cave during the journey to the Lonely mountain . And as Elrond told , they had belonged to Western mountain Elves , the ancestors of his kin . They were made in Gondolin specially for the goblin wars . Torin's sword was nemed Orcrist , it means goblin cuter and there was another sword - Glamdring - the death of enemy . And as far as I got it it was given to Gandalf . But can't find where did Bilbo find he's sword . I'm too lazy to read but you can try finding it in "The Hobbit" .
And I know where you can order all (well maybe not all) LotR weapons , only they are ex-pen-cive .
Hope I helped somehow [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-05-2003, 02:30 PM

Quote:

But can't find where did Bilbo find he's sword . I'm too lazy to read but you can try finding it in "The Hobbit" .

... or you could try reading two posts up. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Ophelia · 06-05-2003, 03:59 PM

Damn!I must be too lazy ..... [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
And forgive me my lazynes but in my book there is said that they found only two Elven swords and one was taken by Thorin and the other by Gandalf . And what was Bilbo's sword than?It was Elven allright . But it was not menchioned . Pleace light my brain up so I can feel the blessing of knowledge ........ [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Aragost · 06-11-2003, 02:00 PM

Where did you find out the name of Arwen's Sword?

Talon Stormcrow · 06-12-2003, 08:13 PM

If I recall I found the name of Arwens sword at www.noblecollection.com where they sell some pretty cool lotr stuff [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Of course it was made just for the movie [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

05-09-2003, 04:07 PM	#1
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	swords and other weapons any facts? __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-09-2003, 05:54 PM	#2
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	They kill people. Can you be more specific? __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

05-09-2003, 06:58 PM	#3
Bill Ferny Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bree Posts: 390	I really have to stop eating all those apples people throw at me. I could re-cycle. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ I prefer Gillaume d’Férny, connoisseur of fine fruit.

05-09-2003, 09:38 PM	#4
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	can you name some that are in Lord of the Rings? __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-09-2003, 11:12 PM	#5
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	Aeglos Aiglos Andúril Anglachel Angrist Anguirel Aranrúth Beater Biter Dramborleg Flame of the West Foe-hammer Glamdring Goblin-cleaver Grond, battering-ram Grond, Hammer of the Underworld Gurthang Gúthwinë Hammer of the Underworld Herugrim Iron of Death Narsil Orcrist Ringil Shards of Narsil Sting Sword of Elendil Sword-that-was-Broken Some doubles in there, I just copied it [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] go here for the scoop. If you have read LotR then you know the weapons are just the basic kind, with few exceptions. The Rings of Power come to mind... [ May 10, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ] __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

05-10-2003, 08:50 AM	#6
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	do you know what kind of bow Legolas used [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-10-2003, 09:07 AM	#7
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	Swords are useful for two things: Whacking people on the head and tripping people up. (This makes no sense unless you've read my documentary, so ignore it [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] but it is true, as Faramir found out...) __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

05-10-2003, 09:09 AM	#8
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	you have a documentary on tripping people with swords? __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-10-2003, 09:15 AM	#9
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	It was v. brief, like one sentence... http://hometown.aol.co.uk/estelofgon...ftherings.html __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

05-10-2003, 09:18 AM	#10
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	oh i see __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-10-2003, 06:33 PM	#11
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	any others...? [ May 10, 2003: Message edited by: Thorin Oakenshield ] __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-10-2003, 09:01 PM	#12
Iarwain Pugnaciously Primordial Paradox Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Birnham Wood Posts: 800	Hehe. Legolas' bow was made in Lothlorien out of real elf hair (sort of gross, I know) Iarwain __________________ "And what are oaths but words we say to God?"

05-11-2003, 08:16 AM	#13
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	what is so great about the Andúril? __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-11-2003, 08:24 AM	#14
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	well, its Narsil... (i think...) cut the ring from sauron's hand and all. pretty grand sword. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

05-11-2003, 12:13 PM	#15
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	isn't The Ring consitered a weapon? __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-11-2003, 12:54 PM	#16
MLD-Grounds-Keeper-Willie Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 573	Yes, sort of. I guess by Sauron, but I think he'd rather called it his wife [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] . It can be considered a weapon, but a perilous one, it can also be considered a tool, but again, a perilous one. __________________ Do Not Touch -Willie

05-11-2003, 02:40 PM	#17
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	Us down at Gondor see it as a weapon. And a good one at that. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

05-12-2003, 06:02 AM	#18
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	yes a dangerous but usefull weapon... [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-13-2003, 05:28 PM	#19
gothmog35 Guest Posts: n/a	I believe Gandalf said that the rings of power were tools that gauged the power,will, and intentions of the bearer and then acted or enhanced upon ther desire to do an intended task. Whether it be as a weapon , to create, to protect etc.etc.etc. So they could be a weapon but were much more multi-fasated than that.

05-14-2003, 03:35 PM	#20
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	so did Aragorn own the Andúril? __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-14-2003, 04:08 PM	#21
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,514	It was passed down to him, so yes, he did own Anduril. ~Menelien __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."

05-14-2003, 05:31 PM	#22
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	who passed it on to him? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-14-2003, 08:22 PM	#23
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	i forgot..... __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-14-2003, 08:30 PM	#24
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,514	Originally it was called Narsil, and it was the sword of Elendil. I don't know whether it was passed on to Isildur, or it was originally his sword. Anyhow, it was broken, and then Isildur cut Sauron's ring-finger off with the Shards of Narsil. They were passed through the generations, until Aragorn had it reforged by the Elves, and renamed it as Anduril. I think that's about right. ~Menelien __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."

05-14-2003, 08:31 PM	#25
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	cool __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-14-2003, 08:34 PM	#26
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	now lets talk about sting(very short history that i know of All i know that Bilbo used it in many of his adventures, and he then passed it o to Frodo........ is there more behind this weapon? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-14-2003, 08:36 PM	#27
Elfchick7 Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the Greenwood Posts: 201	Hello!! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] How could ya'll forget Hadafang??? [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] I know it's not in the books but it's Arwen's sword and Elrond uses it in the openig battle in the FOTR. [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img] __________________ "Yesterday is history. Tommorow is a mystery. Today is a gift from God. That's why it's called the PRESENT!"

05-14-2003, 08:38 PM	#28
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	***!!! oh sorry... that reply came out of nowhere!lol o and what the monkey is Hadafang? never heard of it __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-14-2003, 08:44 PM	#29
Elfchick7 Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the Greenwood Posts: 201	Ok. You know the sword that Arwen pull out in the "flight to the Ford" scene? That is Hadafang. It can also be seen in the begining of Fotr when Elrond is leading the army of elves into battle. __________________ "Yesterday is history. Tommorow is a mystery. Today is a gift from God. That's why it's called the PRESENT!"

05-14-2003, 08:49 PM	#30
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	oh i remember, thanks for bringing it up. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-14-2003, 08:54 PM	#31
Elfchick7 Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the Greenwood Posts: 201	Welcome. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ "Yesterday is history. Tommorow is a mystery. Today is a gift from God. That's why it's called the PRESENT!"

05-16-2003, 09:18 PM	#32
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	Now lets get back to Sting the sword....... __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-16-2003, 09:26 PM	#33
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	so what is the history of sting? __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

05-22-2003, 06:04 AM	#35
Thorin Oakenshield Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frisco TX Posts: 43	So it came from the elves.......... __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.

06-05-2003, 11:46 AM	#36
Ophelia Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere between the sacred , silence and sweet . Posts: 169	Yup . It really came from the Elves . And Bilbo Baggins and Dwarves found two more swords in a troll cave during the journey to the Lonely mountain . And as Elrond told , they had belonged to Western mountain Elves , the ancestors of his kin . They were made in Gondolin specially for the goblin wars . Torin's sword was nemed Orcrist , it means goblin cuter and there was another sword - Glamdring - the death of enemy . And as far as I got it it was given to Gandalf . But can't find where did Bilbo find he's sword . I'm too lazy to read but you can try finding it in "The Hobbit" . And I know where you can order all (well maybe not all) LotR weapons , only they are ex-pen-cive . Hope I helped somehow [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ I didn't lose my mind . It was mine to give away .