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Waenfalathiel · 03-12-2003, 02:22 PM

i haven't been on bd for a while and it looks like some things have changed, so i was wondering where can i ask someone to translate something in to elvish?

Manardariel · 03-12-2003, 02:40 PM

Welcome back!
The language forum was getting out of control, and therfore was closed untill further notice.
Hope I could help you!

lathspell · 03-12-2003, 03:47 PM

Hey Waenfalathiel,

maybe you can put the piece of Elvish you want to be translated in here and someone might be able to help you with it.

greetings,
lathspell

Scott · 03-12-2003, 04:46 PM

If you would like, you can either email me or send me a personal message with any translation questions you might have. I don't claim to be an expert, but I'm pretty well-versed.

Waenfalathiel · 03-13-2003, 01:54 PM

thanks you guys
i would like to have this translated into elvish, "the greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return"
Thx

LadyMeg · 03-14-2003, 01:40 AM

Suilad,

"the greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return"

But it would have to be translated this way in Sindarin;

" The greatest thing to be learned will be to love and be loved always."
(There is no word for Return in Sindarin but maybe you could add (all ways) pân rado ".

" i beleg bach na- istui innas no an meleth a no milui pân rado ".

Hopefully someone else will have a go.

milui galu (kind blessings): LadyMeg

Luinfang · 03-14-2003, 08:02 AM

i'm wondering what my name might mean. got if from the name generator. i'm afraid i'm a real newby here, so please tell me if this is posted to the wrong forum.

Waenfalathiel · 03-15-2003, 05:18 PM

Luinfang, feel free to ask any questions here.

thx for the translation LadyMeg.

i was wondering if someone could translate it in to Quenya?

LadyMeg · 03-15-2003, 06:52 PM

Suilad Waenfalathiel,

"The greatest thing to be learned to love and be loved in return."

Here is the quote you wanted in Quenya.

si uuvea nat an na istima an melme ar na nilda mi entulesse

Your Quote in Sindarin;

"The greatest thing to be learned to love and be loved."

i beleg bach an no istui an meleth a no milui

That way it's easier to compare the two.

milui galu - LadyMeg [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ March 15, 2003: Message edited by: LadyMeg ]

Eressië Ailin · 03-16-2003, 04:11 PM

There was one really good site for Elvish and Tolkien's many other languages. It was Arma-something. I really can't remember the name. Can someone PLEASE post a link?

elven maiden Earwen · 03-16-2003, 04:57 PM

can someone help quick
need this translated in elvish(any kind)
have hope, farewell

LadyMeg · 03-16-2003, 06:09 PM

Suilad elven maiden Earwen,

have hope, farewell.

In Sindarin - garo amdir, navaer

milui galu - LadyMeg
[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

elven maiden Earwen · 03-16-2003, 06:27 PM

okay thanks and how do you say have in Quenya

LadyMeg · 03-16-2003, 06:54 PM

Suilad elven maiden Earwen,

You would have to find another word instead of 'Hope" because there is no word for hope in Quenya.

Think about another word or phrase.

milui galu - LadyMeg [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

elven maiden Earwen · 03-16-2003, 07:13 PM

okay but what languge is estel in

LadyMeg · 03-16-2003, 09:17 PM

Suilad elven maiden Earwen,

estel is Sindarin this is what it means;
a noun. hope, trust, a temper of mind, steady fixed in purpose, and difficult to dissuade and unlikely to fall into despair or abandon its purpose.

have hope, farewell
garo estel, navaer

milui galu - LadyMeg [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

elven maiden Earwen · 03-16-2003, 09:19 PM

okay sorry i was kinda confused

Scott · 03-16-2003, 09:32 PM

On the ardalambion site the wordlist shows estel as being used in both Quenyan and Sindarin.

So,
"Haryalye estel, Namarie."
would be the translation... I think.
(without the accents... my MS Word version is too old [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img])

LadyMeg · 03-16-2003, 09:40 PM

Suilad Luinfang,

Sorry this has taken so long!
Here is what your Name means in Quenya;

Luinil - Neptune (planet)Star(Blue Spark?)
Fang - Beard

Neptunes Beard
Blue Star Beard
[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

milui galu - LadyMeg [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Waenfalathiel · 03-17-2003, 01:43 PM

thx for the translations.
could some one tell me what my name means?

LadyMeg · 03-17-2003, 06:16 PM

Suilad Waenfalathiel,

This is all I could come up with for your name, it is in Quenya.

falath -coast, beach, shore, coast-dwelling.
iel - is usually an ending of a Word meaning Female.

milui galu - LadyMeg [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Scott · 03-17-2003, 10:24 PM

Waen could be taken from the word "wa" meaning wind. So the name could be Windy Beach/Shore.

Waenfalathiel · 03-20-2003, 04:32 PM

thx LadyMeg and Scott

03-12-2003, 02:22 PM	#1
Waenfalathiel Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 47	please help me i haven't been on bd for a while and it looks like some things have changed, so i was wondering where can i ask someone to translate something in to elvish? __________________ "The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return"

03-12-2003, 02:40 PM	#2
Manardariel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Rivendell Posts: 807	Welcome back! The language forum was getting out of control, and therfore was closed untill further notice. Hope I could help you! __________________ Love is a perky elf dancing a merry little jig and then suddenly he turns on you with a miniature machine gun. Blog :-)\|FanFic Dream City

03-12-2003, 03:47 PM	#3
lathspell Regenerating Ringkeeper Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 757	Hey Waenfalathiel, maybe you can put the piece of Elvish you want to be translated in here and someone might be able to help you with it. greetings, lathspell __________________ 'You?' cried Frodo. 'Yes, I, Gandalf the Grey,' said the wizard solemnly. 'There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.'

03-12-2003, 04:46 PM	#4
Scott Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ohio/Grey Havens Posts: 183	If you would like, you can either email me or send me a personal message with any translation questions you might have. I don't claim to be an expert, but I'm pretty well-versed. __________________ Those who the Gods would destroy, They first make mad. ~Those Crazy Greeks

03-13-2003, 01:54 PM	#5
Waenfalathiel Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 47	thanks you guys i would like to have this translated into elvish, "the greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return" Thx __________________ "The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return"

03-14-2003, 01:40 AM	#6
LadyMeg Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ayr QLD Australia Posts: 27	Suilad, "the greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return" But it would have to be translated this way in Sindarin; " The greatest thing to be learned will be to love and be loved always." (There is no word for Return in Sindarin but maybe you could add (all ways) pân rado ". " i beleg bach na- istui innas no an meleth a no milui pân rado ". Hopefully someone else will have a go. milui galu (kind blessings): LadyMeg __________________ "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future"-Galadriel.

03-14-2003, 08:02 AM	#7
Luinfang Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dol Amroth, Gondor Posts: 17	i'm wondering what my name might mean. got if from the name generator. i'm afraid i'm a real newby here, so please tell me if this is posted to the wrong forum. __________________ aurë entuluva! day shall come again!

03-15-2003, 05:18 PM	#8
Waenfalathiel Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 47	Luinfang, feel free to ask any questions here. thx for the translation LadyMeg. i was wondering if someone could translate it in to Quenya? __________________ "The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return"

03-15-2003, 06:52 PM	#9
LadyMeg Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ayr QLD Australia Posts: 27	Suilad Waenfalathiel, "The greatest thing to be learned to love and be loved in return." Here is the quote you wanted in Quenya. si uuvea nat an na istima an melme ar na nilda mi entulesse Your Quote in Sindarin; "The greatest thing to be learned to love and be loved." i beleg bach an no istui an meleth a no milui That way it's easier to compare the two. milui galu - LadyMeg [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [ March 15, 2003: Message edited by: LadyMeg ] __________________ "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future"-Galadriel.

03-16-2003, 04:11 PM	#10
Eressië Ailin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past the Point of No Return... Posts: 502	There was one really good site for Elvish and Tolkien's many other languages. It was Arma-something. I really can't remember the name. Can someone PLEASE post a link? __________________ Holy angel, in Heaven blessed... My spirit longs with thee to rest! ~Faust Never judge a book by its movie. ~J. W. Eagan By the big slippers of big slipperdom! ~M. Gillenormand, Les Misérables My blog!

03-16-2003, 04:57 PM	#11
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	can someone help quick need this translated in elvish(any kind) have hope, farewell __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

03-16-2003, 06:09 PM	#12
LadyMeg Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ayr QLD Australia Posts: 27	Suilad elven maiden Earwen, have hope, farewell. In Sindarin - garo amdir, navaer milui galu - LadyMeg [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future"-Galadriel.

03-16-2003, 06:27 PM	#13
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	okay thanks and how do you say have in Quenya __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

03-16-2003, 06:54 PM	#14
LadyMeg Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ayr QLD Australia Posts: 27	Suilad elven maiden Earwen, You would have to find another word instead of 'Hope" because there is no word for hope in Quenya. Think about another word or phrase. milui galu - LadyMeg [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future"-Galadriel.

03-16-2003, 07:13 PM	#15
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	okay but what languge is estel in __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

03-16-2003, 09:17 PM	#16
LadyMeg Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ayr QLD Australia Posts: 27	Suilad elven maiden Earwen, estel is Sindarin this is what it means; a noun. hope, trust, a temper of mind, steady fixed in purpose, and difficult to dissuade and unlikely to fall into despair or abandon its purpose. have hope, farewell garo estel, navaer milui galu - LadyMeg [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future"-Galadriel.

03-16-2003, 09:19 PM	#17
elven maiden Earwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A world that never was and never will be Posts: 1,300	okay sorry i was kinda confused __________________ We pillage and plunder, we rifle and loot, Drink up me hearties, Yo Ho. the looniest site in the world!!!

03-16-2003, 09:32 PM	#18
Scott Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ohio/Grey Havens Posts: 183	On the ardalambion site the wordlist shows estel as being used in both Quenyan and Sindarin. So, "Haryalye estel, Namarie." would be the translation... I think. (without the accents... my MS Word version is too old [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]) __________________ Those who the Gods would destroy, They first make mad. ~Those Crazy Greeks

03-16-2003, 09:40 PM	#19
LadyMeg Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ayr QLD Australia Posts: 27	Suilad Luinfang, Sorry this has taken so long! Here is what your Name means in Quenya; Luinil - Neptune (planet)Star(Blue Spark?) Fang - Beard Neptunes Beard Blue Star Beard [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] milui galu - LadyMeg [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future"-Galadriel.

03-17-2003, 01:43 PM	#20
Waenfalathiel Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 47	thx for the translations. could some one tell me what my name means? __________________ "The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return"

03-17-2003, 06:16 PM	#21
LadyMeg Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ayr QLD Australia Posts: 27	Suilad Waenfalathiel, This is all I could come up with for your name, it is in Quenya. falath -coast, beach, shore, coast-dwelling. iel - is usually an ending of a Word meaning Female. milui galu - LadyMeg [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future"-Galadriel.

03-17-2003, 10:24 PM	#22
Scott Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ohio/Grey Havens Posts: 183	Waen could be taken from the word "wa" meaning wind. So the name could be Windy Beach/Shore. __________________ Those who the Gods would destroy, They first make mad. ~Those Crazy Greeks

03-20-2003, 04:32 PM	#23
Waenfalathiel Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 47	thx LadyMeg and Scott __________________ "The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return"