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Beleg met them when he was looking for Túrin?
...Easier one? You are evil ![]()
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1) I'm not evil
2) that's true 3) it is not the answer I was looking for ![]() Surely Beleg met other people as well, when looking for Túrin - like the rest of Túrin's men for example. Keep guessing.
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1) No, you ARE evil
2) I knew it 3) I knew it! ![]() Alrighty, what about the fact that they both suffered a mortal wound when there was only one mighty hero around who survived? (I know, somewhat complicated but also true.)
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No, even though it's related to that fact.
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Four things: D, G, N, O, and R.
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Well I don't know. Túrin was always captured (or "captured") shortly after they died. Or he changed his name short time after that. Or is it more focused on them personally and not having too much in common with Túrin?
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I might be slow today, but I'm afraid I don't get what you're saying, Gwath.
![]() Legate - no and no, like you suspected, it has less to do with Túrin (even though part of the answer is related to him).
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Something like that they were the most brave in the battle when a place Túrin was hiding in was destroyed?
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No...
Ok, I'll take my words about being evil back, for the combination Legate + confused smiley + Quiz Room made me laugh. ![]() ![]() Anyway, Legate's second guess remains the one that is closest to what I'm thinking about.
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Okay. Let me see. Andróg saves Beleg before he dies, but Gwindor does not save anyone before he dies, quite the opposite, Túrin carries him out of the battle. Technically, Andróg saves Beleg and Gwindor saves Túrin, but that's kinda strange and does not seem much as "in common" - well, at maximum I could say "they saved a hero". I really can't think of anything else.
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Now, first off, I managed to misread the part of the story from CoH that is about the answer (or part of it) so the answer I had in mind is not actually true.
![]() ![]() This might make everything confusing, but I can and I will alter the answer, but then it needs stretching a little. If I do it, it actually means that Legate is very very close to the answer with his latest guess. Yes, Andróg saves Beleg and we could say that Gwindor saves Túrin. That is the part of the answer you got absolutely right. However, that itself doesn't form a connection between the two. And "they both saved a hero", as true as it is, is not original enough. (After all, there are loads of people saving heroes in Tolkien's works.) ![]()
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Is it, like, some details? Like, that they both saved a hero who was in bonds, cut off his bonds or something like that? Or something else, like, some events that occured at that time? I don't know what you are looking for (once again,
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I'd rather make this easy than difficult and complicated, so I can tell you it has something to do with their relationship with the one they saved.
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Well, they saved someone whom they have seen as an "enemy". But in Andróg's case, Beleg was his "enemy" earlier, while Gwindor was Túrin's "enemy" later.
EDIT: or maybe "jealous" is the word?
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Well done!
I accept that answer. I was thinking that they saved someone who was their rival for someone's love/ attentions/ regard, but that is very close to your answer as there certainly is the jealousy-aspect.
The thing that I originally had in mind was that their rival tried to save them right before they died, but then, a while ago, I discovered this was not true in Andróg's case (unless you're stretching a lot). So I changed it to that what you said, although it makes the timeline-thing a little illogical. I'm not content with myself ![]() ![]() Anyway, like I said, that is the correct answer, so Legate, please take the thread. ![]()
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That happens
![]() Okay, now what the heck am I supposed to post as a question? What about this, in hope not to be too vague: What do Boromir and the Nazgul have in common? And to avoid confusion, I could add that right now I cannot think of anyone else who would have that thing common with them (and I really hope I am not mistaken so that I'm not confusing you, but I'd say you can take for granted now that it's right. If it's wrong it will show sooner or later ![]()
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Regarding Boromir and the Nazgul: both tried UNSUCCESSFULLY to take the Ring from Frodo.
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That's a good one, but not the thing I had in mind. One could say, technically, that they did not want to take the Ring, but Frodo as a whole (Ring included). Anyway, I want to say that I wanted another answer. Keep trying.
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They lost their horses while crossing a river?
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Very good! That's what I was looking for. Lommy, you may continue the thread.
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What do Faramir and Sam have in common?
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Hm, the first thing I thought about is that they are the "second in rank" after a hero, you know what I mean? Boromir -> Faramir, Frodo -> Sam. Though it hardly is what you have in mind. Maybe the fact that they both did not like that Gollum accompanied Frodo?
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Simple? Surely not that they resisted the Ring, for they were not the only ones (Galadriel). Well, they had in common the high esteem of Elves. That was someting they really had in common, meaning, something they could agree on. But just technically speaking, that was a thing other people had as well...
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Oh yes, I probably found it - right after I hit the submit button of my last answer, I felt as if I were struck by a lightning, and I only had to check what I thought of - they married the same year, is that what you had in mind?
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Typical syndrom of the Quiz Room - finding more answers than you thought of when you posted the question
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Yes, but anyways the correct answer. Take the thread, please.
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Okay, so what about something trickier for a change. Brodda and Finduilas of Dol Amroth.
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They each married a foreigner?
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Surely they were not the only ones. But you are on the right track.
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Er... they were each distantly related to someone named Morwen?
(Okay, that's a bit weak.)
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That is indeed. Nope. You were aiming the right direction before.
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Oh, I get it.
Their spouses both ended up setting fire to everything?
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That's it
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First, a question about the rules: is it always two people?
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Any number you choose, obviously (well, maybe only asking about one person would be somewhat odd
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Okay. Second question. Do they have to be the only people with this thing in common?
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Well, they should. On the other hand... if you ask a thing, like, that they had blue eyes, maybe it will do... I think you should specify it, at least, that it may be a thing they may have in common with even someone else, so that someone does not dismiss it... asking what do Bilbo and Sauron have in common, people would generally assume you mean something else than that they wore the One Ring, unless you included also Gollum, Isildur, Frodo and Sam etc.
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