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Enorëiel · 02-22-2005, 09:15 PM

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You read the books in two weeks? Wow! I suggest you read them again for surely you will find stuff you missed the first time through, or may see things differently. I have yet to tire of reading them!

Okay... I exagerated just a wee bit. I read FOTR and TTT before I saw the next film (TTT)

And not to worry I have reread them since. I am currently in ROTK my third time through

wilwarin538 · 02-25-2005, 03:20 PM

I am a Movie Recruit on my way to being a Edain New-School Book Fan. I saw FotR read all three books in about 3-4 weeks(I was completely addicted) then I read the Hobbit probably about a week after seing TTT. I'm about half way through the Sil. Too much homework not enough time to read.

ninlaith · 02-25-2005, 04:11 PM

I think I'm a mixture of the first and second. I'm not too picky but picky enough. I'm that one that would sit with you watching the movies and be like "Oh why did they leave that out!!!" "why did they add that!!" "What's going on!!" "Why would they do that!!"...something to that extent. I read the books a long time before i saw the movies. Maybe that wasn't such a good idea.

02-28-2005, 12:39 PM

Well, I was a fan long before the film are coming.
I read the books in the 80 and from these moment on, I saw middle-earht all around me und feel a little Hobbit in my soul

But also I love the films, twoo. Most everything is like in my fantasy, exspecialy the places...

Morsul the Dark · 02-28-2005, 03:49 PM

I suppose I would be Fan #1...until I saw TTT then I moved to #3 now I'm slowly getting to #2...I am however #4..in drama class for my Audition I sang theoden's warsong ...I used a brrom as my spear

Snowdog · 04-02-2007, 05:44 PM

Had to fix the link in the first post as they moved their archives.

Elfchick7 · 04-03-2007, 01:24 PM

Well, I grew up watching the cartoons but I didn't really think much about it.

So I guess I'm a movie recruit. I heard the movies were coming out so the month before the FOTR release I read the Hobbit and the LOTR. I wanted to be able to give educated opinions on the movies.

Since then I have read LOTR four times and have read the Sil 1&1/2 times

Rikae · 04-03-2007, 04:50 PM

First Born, would have been an Old-School Book Fan, but I wasn't born until '79!

Although I might not be a totally pure book fan, so to speak, since I had an audio recording of the Rankin-Bass "Hobbit" back in '82 (a 45!) - though I didn't see the movie before first reading "The Hobbit" in '85 and LOTR in '87.

Now, as for the first question - definitely #2; code yellow "Tolkien Fanatic", but by now I've decided, overall, I like the movies.

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 08-04-2007, 01:37 PM

I suppose I am a PJ recruit. I suppose people will look down on me now.

But that was probably because the movies did not come out until I was five since I am 13 now...and I only just read the books two months ago. I read them in five days and have sorta re read them.

sallkid · 08-05-2007, 12:33 PM

I'd like to say I'm pre-Sil by Proxy, as i was introduced to the LOTR by my father who would have read it pre-Sil and took no interest in the Sil (I likewise took no interest in the Sil until long after i'd read the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings, and my copy of the Lord Of The Rings is a pre-Sil edition.

But as age goes I'm post Sil, despite to this day not having read it.

piosenniel · 08-05-2007, 12:59 PM

As far as the movies are concerned, I was this sort of fan:

#4 CODE: Get this kid some therapy - "The Raving Lunatic"

Yes, I had.....that is, have.....an Elven sword

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 08-06-2007, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piosenniel

As far as the movies are concerned, I was this sort of fan:

#4 CODE: Get this kid some therapy - "The Raving Lunatic"

Yes, I had.....that is, have.....an Elven sword

You have an Elven sword? OOOOOOHHHHH I wants it.

***Thenamir*** · 08-07-2007, 10:16 AM

I am among the last of the Old School Book Fans, as I read The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings just bare months before The Silmarillion was released. I found The Sil hard going, and gave it up halfway through (not finishing it until about 4 years ago), but read and re-read TH and LOTR, perusing fan BBS and the Internet when it became available, reading movie rumors (oh, the endless debates on who should play Gandalf...Sean Connery being the much-hailed-and-derided favorite) and balrog wing discussions.

The real announcement of a real movie (which I read first on Ain't It Cool News) refueled my interest. I ended up being strongly influenced by the movies, but revere the books alone as canon, of course.

Oddly, I find myself standing almost in the exact center of the movies-versus-books road, and suffering the slings and arrows from cars on both lanes. "I love the books, I love the movies, they're two different things, why can't we all just get along?"

<Thenamir ducks as another salvo of sharp, pointy objects is hurled his way...>

***Thenamir*** · 08-07-2007, 10:21 AM

Oh, as far as the movies were concerned, check this photo of me and my lovely wife just before the release of TTT. I think this makes me A Raving Lunatic. And yes, that is Glamdring in my hand.

Lalwendë · 08-07-2007, 01:59 PM

Oh does that ever beg for a Crazy Caption...

"Um, Celebrimbor, do you think you could help me? You see I was messing about with Glamdring and there was this big lump of cheese...and they kind of got stuck..."

Lindale · 11-22-2007, 01:19 PM

A literal pre-book. I saw an article comparing the movie versions of HP1 and FotR sometime during my tenth or eleventh year. And then, I pestered my parents to buy me the book. The Christmas that followed, FotR was playing. I read Silm three years later, during my high school.

I wasn't even alive when the First-born thingys here were happening!

Galendor · 11-23-2007, 08:15 PM

I'm a first-born or prodigal first-born. Read The Hobbit many times starting at age ten in 1980, then moved on to read LOTR as a teenager. Since then I have re-read them several times. However, I have never read any other works by Tolkien (a serious deficiency in my education, I know).

So, like many here I went to see the movies with preconcieved notions on how characters should look and act, and approached the Jackson movies with great anxiety and trepidation (and hope!) over what Hollywood might do to the story. I loved FOTR, I felt it was very close to Tolkiens books. I was less pleased with the 2nd two movies, where deviations from the books (and silly, pointless dwarf jokes, etc) became more prominent. Like several here, I did not mind omissions of characters and events (since this is necessary to fit within a movie length) but I did not appreciate the insertion of new events, and the previosuly mentioned base humor apparently inserted in attempt to get a cheap laugh (such as: "Nobody tosses a dwarf!" Gimli.

William Cloud Hicklin · 11-23-2007, 09:55 PM

Ah, children!

I can't claim to be a genuine Old-line Bookie (that's reserved to those who read LR in the First Edition)- but I did read it in the (brand-new) paperbacks with the ghastly red-and-blue Barbara Remington covers- and again and again until they fell apart. I wrote to Christopher Tolkien two years before The Silmarillion appeared asking questions about it. I digested all of UT and HME as they came out: all, of course, well before the movies.

So it's fair to say that the movies were not my introduction to Middle-earth....

Galendor · 11-23-2007, 11:01 PM

P.S. as a kid, I had a larger "coffee table" The Hobbit book that was full of glossy color illustrations that look similar or the same as the Rankin/Bass cartoons. It did strongly influence my mental images of Middle Earth. I wish I had that same book now - I think I'll go look for it on the internet!

Sauron the White · 11-24-2007, 09:05 AM

Galendor .. that coffee table HOBBIT was produced by Abrams - one of the premier publishers of such fare. It sounds like you have lots of childhood memories interwoven with that particular book. Speaking for myself, I did care much for either the style of illustrations or the quality of the animation. But then, I was no child when it came out so I do not have the wonderful associations with it that you seem to have.

here is one being sold now on ebay for a decent price

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Hobbit-HC-by...QQcmdZViewItem

Galendor · 11-24-2007, 10:51 AM

That IS it - thank you very much, Sauron the White! I may bid on it (I wish they took Paypal), but if not at least now I know what to look for. I must have read that book 20 times. Those fanciful and somewhat childish illustrations definitiely became imprinted on my young brain. When I envision Beorn, Bard, Thorin, etc. I still see those illustrations. But those illustrations somehow didn't transfer very well to LOTR - once I read it I began to see the characters more as real people, not cartoon characters. If memory serves, the Rankin/Bass elves were particulary silly-looking, with pointy sock-like feet!

Azaelia of Willowbottom · 11-27-2007, 09:41 AM

I'm somewhere between a First-born and a pre-movie book fan. Not quite sure where I stand.

I attempted to read LOTR first in late 2000-early 2001, between the ages of 12 and 13. I'd noticed some of my classmates were doing so, and I thought the covers were interesting. I was a big Star Wars geek, and I was looking for an action-packed story. I didn't find it, and halted only a couple pages from the end of FOTR. I did, however, have a sense that there was a larger picture, something I was failing to grasp for whatever reason, and that I should absolutely come back to LOTR.

I then proceeded to mostly forget about it, until seeing the preview for FOTR in early November 2001, almost a year later. By then, I was fast approaching 14. I decided that NOW was the time to go back and attempt LOTR again. Someone expressed surprise over a 2-week read. I spent the majority of Veteran's Day weekend on the couch, reading. It took me 3 days. I was hooked. Over the course of the next few months, I read it 6 times or so, before attempting to limit myself to the traditional single read once a year. I've been here pretty much ever since.

As to the comic, I believe I fit into the sword-waving category the best...hahaha. I was in full hobbit costume for both TTT and ROTK. What can I say? I'm a theater kid. Any excuse to go out in public in costume is a good one, LOTR doubly so.

Sir Kohran · 11-28-2007, 03:07 PM

Definitely a movie recruit. I read the books through 2002 and early 2003. It was a life changing period.

Alonna · 11-28-2007, 06:42 PM

If PJ had never made the movies, I doubt I ever would have picked up the books. I saw the Bakshi cartoon when I was young and thought it was the worst thing I'd ever seen. I refused to even consider reading the books because I assumed they were just like the cartoon. After FOTR came out, one of my friends managed to convince me to give it a chance. The film completely wiped away the memories of Bakshi and got me to read the books.

02-25-2005, 03:20 PM	#42
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	I am a Movie Recruit on my way to being a Edain New-School Book Fan. I saw FotR read all three books in about 3-4 weeks(I was completely addicted) then I read the Hobbit probably about a week after seing TTT. I'm about half way through the Sil. Too much homework not enough time to read. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

02-25-2005, 04:11 PM	#43
ninlaith Wight Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: in my hobbit hole Posts: 204	I think I'm a mixture of the first and second. I'm not too picky but picky enough. I'm that one that would sit with you watching the movies and be like "Oh why did they leave that out!!!" "why did they add that!!" "What's going on!!" "Why would they do that!!"...something to that extent. I read the books a long time before i saw the movies. Maybe that wasn't such a good idea. __________________ "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve!"-Bilbo Baggins

02-28-2005, 03:49 PM	#45
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	I suppose I would be Fan #1...until I saw TTT then I moved to #3 now I'm slowly getting to #2...I am however #4..in drama class for my Audition I sang theoden's warsong ...I used a brrom as my spear __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

04-03-2007, 01:24 PM	#47
Elfchick7 Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the Greenwood Posts: 201	Well, I grew up watching the cartoons but I didn't really think much about it. So I guess I'm a movie recruit. I heard the movies were coming out so the month before the FOTR release I read the Hobbit and the LOTR. I wanted to be able to give educated opinions on the movies. Since then I have read LOTR four times and have read the Sil 1&1/2 times __________________ "Yesterday is history. Tommorow is a mystery. Today is a gift from God. That's why it's called the PRESENT!"

08-04-2007, 01:37 PM	#49
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,230	I suppose I am a PJ recruit. I suppose people will look down on me now. But that was probably because the movies did not come out until I was five since I am 13 now...and I only just read the books two months ago. I read them in five days and have sorta re read them. __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead. Last edited by TheGreatElvenWarrior; 08-04-2007 at 01:43 PM. Reason: adding

02-28-2005, 12:39 PM	#44
Shuki Guest Posts: n/a	Well, I was a fan long before the film are coming. I read the books in the 80 and from these moment on, I saw middle-earht all around me und feel a little Hobbit in my soul But also I love the films, twoo. Most everything is like in my fantasy, exspecialy the places...

04-02-2007, 05:44 PM	#46
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 632	Had to fix the link in the first post as they moved their archives.

04-03-2007, 04:50 PM	#48
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	First Born, would have been an Old-School Book Fan, but I wasn't born until '79! Although I might not be a totally pure book fan, so to speak, since I had an audio recording of the Rankin-Bass "Hobbit" back in '82 (a 45!) - though I didn't see the movie before first reading "The Hobbit" in '85 and LOTR in '87. Now, as for the first question - definitely #2; code yellow "Tolkien Fanatic", but by now I've decided, overall, I like the movies.

08-05-2007, 12:33 PM	#50
sallkid Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 50	I'd like to say I'm pre-Sil by Proxy, as i was introduced to the LOTR by my father who would have read it pre-Sil and took no interest in the Sil (I likewise took no interest in the Sil until long after i'd read the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings, and my copy of the Lord Of The Rings is a pre-Sil edition. But as age goes I'm post Sil, despite to this day not having read it. __________________ Clap! Snap! the black crack! Grip, grab! Pinch, nab! And down down to Goblin-town You go, my lad!

08-05-2007, 12:59 PM	#51
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	As far as the movies are concerned, I was this sort of fan: #4 CODE: Get this kid some therapy - "The Raving Lunatic" Yes, I had.....that is, have.....an Elven sword __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

08-07-2007, 10:16 AM	#53
*Thenamir* Spectre of Capitalism Join Date: May 2001 Location: Battling evil bureaucrats at Zeta Aquilae Posts: 987	I am among the last of the Old School Book Fans, as I read The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings just bare months before The Silmarillion was released. I found The Sil hard going, and gave it up halfway through (not finishing it until about 4 years ago), but read and re-read TH and LOTR, perusing fan BBS and the Internet when it became available, reading movie rumors (oh, the endless debates on who should play Gandalf...Sean Connery being the much-hailed-and-derided favorite) and balrog wing discussions. The real announcement of a real movie (which I read first on Ain't It Cool News) refueled my interest. I ended up being strongly influenced by the movies, but revere the books alone as canon, of course. Oddly, I find myself standing almost in the exact center of the movies-versus-books road, and suffering the slings and arrows from cars on both lanes. "I love the books, I love the movies, they're two different things, why can't we all just get along?" <Thenamir ducks as another salvo of sharp, pointy objects is hurled his way...> __________________ The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~~ Marcus Aurelius

08-07-2007, 10:21 AM	#54
*Thenamir* Spectre of Capitalism Join Date: May 2001 Location: Battling evil bureaucrats at Zeta Aquilae Posts: 987	Oh, as far as the movies were concerned, check this photo of me and my lovely wife just before the release of TTT. I think this makes me A Raving Lunatic. And yes, that is Glamdring in my hand. __________________ The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~~ Marcus Aurelius

08-07-2007, 01:59 PM	#55
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	Oh does that ever beg for a Crazy Caption... "Um, Celebrimbor, do you think you could help me? You see I was messing about with Glamdring and there was this big lump of cheese...and they kind of got stuck..." __________________ Gordon's alive!

11-22-2007, 01:19 PM	#56
Lindale Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: midway upon... in a forest dark Posts: 975	A literal pre-book. I saw an article comparing the movie versions of HP1 and FotR sometime during my tenth or eleventh year. And then, I pestered my parents to buy me the book. The Christmas that followed, FotR was playing. I read Silm three years later, during my high school. I wasn't even alive when the First-born thingys here were happening! __________________ The heart does things for reasons Reason itself cannot comprehend. - Blaise Pascal Legal Madness.

11-23-2007, 08:15 PM	#57
Galendor Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mirkwood, NC Posts: 66	I'm a first-born or prodigal first-born. Read The Hobbit many times starting at age ten in 1980, then moved on to read LOTR as a teenager. Since then I have re-read them several times. However, I have never read any other works by Tolkien (a serious deficiency in my education, I know). So, like many here I went to see the movies with preconcieved notions on how characters should look and act, and approached the Jackson movies with great anxiety and trepidation (and hope!) over what Hollywood might do to the story. I loved FOTR, I felt it was very close to Tolkiens books. I was less pleased with the 2nd two movies, where deviations from the books (and silly, pointless dwarf jokes, etc) became more prominent. Like several here, I did not mind omissions of characters and events (since this is necessary to fit within a movie length) but I did not appreciate the insertion of new events, and the previosuly mentioned base humor apparently inserted in attempt to get a cheap laugh (such as: "Nobody tosses a dwarf!" Gimli. __________________ Time is the mind, the hand that makes (fingers on harpstrings, hero-swords, the acts, the eyes of queens).

11-23-2007, 09:55 PM	#58
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,322	Ah, children! I can't claim to be a genuine Old-line Bookie (that's reserved to those who read LR in the First Edition)- but I did read it in the (brand-new) paperbacks with the ghastly red-and-blue Barbara Remington covers- and again and again until they fell apart. I wrote to Christopher Tolkien two years before The Silmarillion appeared asking questions about it. I digested all of UT and HME as they came out: all, of course, well before the movies. So it's fair to say that the movies were not my introduction to Middle-earth.... __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

11-23-2007, 11:01 PM	#59
Galendor Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mirkwood, NC Posts: 66	P.S. as a kid, I had a larger "coffee table" The Hobbit book that was full of glossy color illustrations that look similar or the same as the Rankin/Bass cartoons. It did strongly influence my mental images of Middle Earth. I wish I had that same book now - I think I'll go look for it on the internet! __________________ Time is the mind, the hand that makes (fingers on harpstrings, hero-swords, the acts, the eyes of queens).

11-24-2007, 09:05 AM	#60
Sauron the White Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 903	Galendor .. that coffee table HOBBIT was produced by Abrams - one of the premier publishers of such fare. It sounds like you have lots of childhood memories interwoven with that particular book. Speaking for myself, I did care much for either the style of illustrations or the quality of the animation. But then, I was no child when it came out so I do not have the wonderful associations with it that you seem to have. here is one being sold now on ebay for a decent price http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Hobbit-HC-by...QQcmdZViewItem

11-24-2007, 10:51 AM	#61
Galendor Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mirkwood, NC Posts: 66	That IS it - thank you very much, Sauron the White! I may bid on it (I wish they took Paypal), but if not at least now I know what to look for. I must have read that book 20 times. Those fanciful and somewhat childish illustrations definitiely became imprinted on my young brain. When I envision Beorn, Bard, Thorin, etc. I still see those illustrations. But those illustrations somehow didn't transfer very well to LOTR - once I read it I began to see the characters more as real people, not cartoon characters. If memory serves, the Rankin/Bass elves were particulary silly-looking, with pointy sock-like feet! __________________ Time is the mind, the hand that makes (fingers on harpstrings, hero-swords, the acts, the eyes of queens).

11-27-2007, 09:41 AM	#62
Azaelia of Willowbottom Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: By the Sea Posts: 446	I'm somewhere between a First-born and a pre-movie book fan. Not quite sure where I stand. I attempted to read LOTR first in late 2000-early 2001, between the ages of 12 and 13. I'd noticed some of my classmates were doing so, and I thought the covers were interesting. I was a big Star Wars geek, and I was looking for an action-packed story. I didn't find it, and halted only a couple pages from the end of FOTR. I did, however, have a sense that there was a larger picture, something I was failing to grasp for whatever reason, and that I should absolutely come back to LOTR. I then proceeded to mostly forget about it, until seeing the preview for FOTR in early November 2001, almost a year later. By then, I was fast approaching 14. I decided that NOW was the time to go back and attempt LOTR again. Someone expressed surprise over a 2-week read. I spent the majority of Veteran's Day weekend on the couch, reading. It took me 3 days. I was hooked. Over the course of the next few months, I read it 6 times or so, before attempting to limit myself to the traditional single read once a year. I've been here pretty much ever since. As to the comic, I believe I fit into the sword-waving category the best...hahaha. I was in full hobbit costume for both TTT and ROTK. What can I say? I'm a theater kid. Any excuse to go out in public in costume is a good one, LOTR doubly so. __________________ "Wherever I have been, I am back."

11-28-2007, 03:07 PM	#63
Sir Kohran Wight Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England, UK Posts: 178	Definitely a movie recruit. I read the books through 2002 and early 2003. It was a life changing period. __________________ 'Dangerous!' cried Gandalf. 'And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord.'

11-28-2007, 06:42 PM	#64
Alonna Animated Skeleton Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 33	If PJ had never made the movies, I doubt I ever would have picked up the books. I saw the Bakshi cartoon when I was young and thought it was the worst thing I'd ever seen. I refused to even consider reading the books because I assumed they were just like the cartoon. After FOTR came out, one of my friends managed to convince me to give it a chance. The film completely wiped away the memories of Bakshi and got me to read the books.