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06-27-2007, 07:21 AM | #41 | |
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However, as far as powered means of locomotion, Eärendil's ship Vingilot was a pretty nifty spaceship.
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06-27-2007, 07:39 AM | #43 | |
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06-27-2007, 10:08 AM | #47 |
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don't mean to flog a dead horse, but on the subject of gandalf's fireworks.
It's concievable (though would be almost completely anathemic) that gandalf supplemented his fireworks with his own power or the power of his ring (which i believe was known as the "ring of fire") Although someone as wise as gandalf probably wouldn't have used a ring of power so frivlously, it is possible that, after the fall of the necromancer he felt safe using this power, untill the rumours of the dark lord rose again. On the subject of trains, it could refer to a wagon train. Carrying people or supplies through the shire. this fails to take into account the hiss of steam but a wagon train travelling an "express" route would surely travel at the greatest speed possible? Please forgive my sincere lack of knowledge in this respect. |
06-27-2007, 05:46 PM | #48 | |
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The LotR passage in question in this thread is one of the final snips at the tether that binds the hobbits safely to contemporary English-ness; after the first few chapters they are thrust squarely into the ancient mythological landscape with only a few glimpses backward.
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06-28-2007, 08:31 AM | #49 | ||
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06-28-2007, 08:08 PM | #50 |
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If Gandalf used his powers to make the fireworks splendid, it would only be an improvement and not as such change the fact that it had already been invented.
I am quite sure that the fireworks was made in Dale, which means gunpowder was common knowledge in Middle-Earth and therefor it does not really matter whether Gandalf used his powers or not. I mean the subject is how far technology had developed, right? |
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06-29-2007, 11:20 AM | #52 | |
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Now on the gunpowder...an idea springs to mind...the substance clearly exists and Gandalf clearly has an almost supernatural grasp of using it in fireworks (as shown by Boro's explanation of how modern fireworks are made and how they couldn't hope to compete with the splendid stuff put on display by Gandalf) while Saruman uses it for more nefarious and bloody purposes. Maybe Tolkien is showing us something here? Telling us a lesson about the application of science in the form of technology? Gandalf uses it to make things of beauty whereas Saruman uses it in the application of war. Presumably Gandalf could do this too, but he didn't. So I think that maybe shows us something of Tolkien's thought on uses and abuses of technology?
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