WW XXXIII - Other Minds and Hands

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Legate

SpM hasn't convinced me at all of his innocence.

I wasn't aware of having tried to convince you. In any event, I would rather that you vote for me than condemn a (probably innocent) Ang to an early grave - provided, of course, it doesn't result in me being lynched in his place.

Diamond: ++Gil-Galad (Gil-1)
Boromir: ++Boromir (Gil-1, Boro-1)
Boromir: --Boromir, ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-1)
SpM: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-1, Sixth-1)
Sixth: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-1)
Lommy: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2)
Kath: ++Rune (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2, Rune-1)
Anguirel: ++Volo (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-1)
Volo: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-1)
Rune: ++Volo (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-2)
Mac: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2)

With half an hour to go, I can see this ending in utter chaos. With the threat of a possible double-lynching looming over us, it might be a good idea for those who have not yet placed their first vote to do so reasonably in advance of the deadline.

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Volo, I'm really confused about this role of yours.

If you can't be lynched or killed and you are on the side of us Innocents, then why won't you reveal it to us?

It doesn't make sense to me. What harm could possibly be done if you do indeed reveal your role?

I revealed it already! We wouldn't be discussing it if I hadn't...

[Brinniel]

I revealed it already! We wouldn't be discussing it if I hadn't...

Oh sorry...I didn't see your edit...

[Volo]

Do you feel Sixth is worth lynching? I sure see why he is suspicious, and it might indeed be a possibility that he's a Wolf. Otherwise we need to agree, quick.

[Aganzir]

I'm a little confused. I thought I would be going to vote for Legate, but now everything he has said has made him look more innocentish than some others. But I don't consider Sixth that suspicious that I would vote for him.

I don't really see the point of Volo's role, and neither in revealing it. Of course I understand why he revealed his role, but... It all seems quite weird. Why would there be a role that cannot be killed? Claiming that he has this role would of course be a good strategy for a wolf or a gifted - at least for, say, a couple of Days. Why would wolves take the risk of losing a kill by attempting to kill someone who doesn't die, and why would the villagers consider wasting a lynch in someone who might or might not die...

Mith looks pretty innocent this far. So do Kath, Brinniel and Rune. Of others I can't say anything.

[Macalaure]

But Volo, does anything change for you once somebody tries to kill you? Will you still be allowed to vote, for example?

[Mithalwen]

Legate I might well vote for..... btu I worry that suspecting him is a not entirely unjustified habit.... but as Brinniel say it might be throw away ... and indeed wrong....

So little time, so much confusion, such a great fear that it is an innocents tear each other apart day..... shall we try to avoid a double lynch at least? I can only see that that would help the wolves ...

And volo - if you do have som knowledge can you be less oblique?

Or is this some wolftrick?

My mirror is very cloudy

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

But Volo, does anything change for you once somebody tries to kill you? Will you still be allowed to vote, for example?

Nothing changes.

Gut says that Kath be a Wolf. Or the thought that she analysed too little content with too much text.

[Mithalwen]

OK I will change if necessary but first vote of instinct even if second for necessity:

++Legate of Amon Lanc

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Well although Volo's role could have been a trick, I don't think he'd think of it himself. Also remember the narration (the book and the lines in it). The shame is, that it was revealed - surely more fun could've been brought with it. Any downside of revealing, Volo? But let's keep this off - with deadline about 2 hours earlier than I am used to, I now realized in shock after SpM's and Mith's post that it's upon us! Hey, we HAVE TO AVOID DOUBLE-LYNCH AT ALL COSTS!!! While I know with the remaining votes my vote might lead to it, I'm still keeping one vote for retraction. Let's hope no one else does it!

PLEASE CHECK YOU DON'T CROSS-VOTE WITH ANYONE, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN HAVE DOUBLE-LYNCH VERY NICELY.

++Anguirel

for what I said earlier.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I did not see your edit either before just now. . . .Interesting.

My problem is that you were my only lynch candidate other than Mac, I could change my vote but it would change nothing.

[The Saucepan Man]

OK Volo, I'll buy your explanation, for now at least. Although, with a greater likelihood of an innocent being lynched than a Wolf on Day 1, it might have been better for you not to have revealed your role and run the risk of being non-lynched. After all, the main advantage of your role would appear to be that the Wolves might have wasted a kill on you.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Ad Six: I believe him innocent, because he didn't do anything that could be wolfish apart of that he started bandwaggon for Ang.

[Brinniel]

Okay, I said I would vote Volo or Legate, unless things dramatically changed, and well....things have dramatically changed, so...

That is indeed a special role, Volo, and I don't think you would lie about it, so I will not vote for you.

I would really like to vote for Legate now, actually, but at this point it looks like it would just be another throw-away vote. And as SPM has reminded us, there can be double lynches, and I would really rather not have that happen...

Deadline is getting close...

Next on my suspicious list is Sixth, and while I'd rather not vote him toDay, he definitely seems more suspicious to me than Ang or any other who has been voted for already for that matter.

Vote coming shortly...

EDIT: X-ed with a whole lot of people

[Aganzir]

I would rather go for Legate than for Sixth or Ang, though voting for Legate at this point would indeed be throw away. Sixth is more suspicious than Ang, of whom I can't say anything.

++Legate

I'll change to Sixth if necessary.

edit: xed since Legate

[Volo]

--Anguirel
++The Sixth Wizard

I suspect those two more than Legate, but seeing that Sixth will be lynched more surely than Ang I'll vote him.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I'll change to Sixth if necessary.

And I would change to Legate if necessary. We all just have to decide on one.

[The Saucepan Man]

I declare myself willing to vote for Legate, if necessary, given that he looks far more suspicious to me than Ang.

[Anguirel]

Evidently this is going to be a pretty close run thing, especially with Saruman helpfully chipping in over there...I don't think there's much point in doing anything other than this:

--VOLO, ++SIXTH WIZARD

Very undignified to have to stoop to scrabbling for my skin, but...

[The Saucepan Man]

Crossed with Volo's retraction and vote - I'll leave my vote with Sixer for now.

[Brinniel]

Okay, now people are starting to vote Legate...

What to do...

Well, since this won't be a throw-away vote anymore, I will after all vote:

++Legate

Hopefully, this won't turn into a double lynch toDay...

EDIT: X-ed with Volo on...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I guess it's obvious that Six is toast now, but I daresay that you made a mistake, and if not, I'm going to eat my own Orc-food...

[Mithalwen]

So What are the votes ..I am too befuddled...... I need ot know if widowhood is imminent...

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I think Sixth is leading by two votes, but I am not sure.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

So What are the votes ..I am too befuddled...... I need ot know if widowhood is imminent...

Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-5, Rune-1, Volo-1, Legate 3, if I'm right.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Six five, four three one. Umm... I wanted to say: Six 5, Ang 3, Little My 3. (unless I miscounted)

EDIT: X-ed since Mith

[Macalaure]

Ang 3
Six 5
Legate 3

...I hope...

edit: cross-posted, obviously

[Brinniel]

I think it's:

Sixth: 5
Ang: 4
Legate:3

EDIT: Haha....all of us answered at once...

[The Saucepan Man]

Hard to keep up, but I think that it looks like this:

Diamond: ++Gil-Galad (Gil-1)
Boromir: ++Boromir (Gil-1, Boro-1)
Boromir: --Boromir, ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-1)
SpM: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-1, Sixth-1)
Sixth: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-1)
Lommy: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2)
Kath: ++Rune (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2, Rune-1)
Anguirel: ++Volo (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-1)
Volo: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-1)
Rune: ++Volo (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-2)
Mac: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2)
Mithalwen: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-1)
Legate: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-4, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-1)
Aganzir: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-4, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-2)
Volo: --Anguirel, ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-4, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-2)
Anguirel: --Volo, ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-5, Rune-1, Volo-1, Legate-2)
Brinniel: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-5, Rune-1, Volo-1, Legate-3)

Yet to vote: Shasta, Durelin, Xyzzy, Gil

[Volo]

Diamond: ++Gil-Galad (Gil-1)
Boromir: ++Boromir (Gil-1, Boro-1)
Boromir: --Boromir, ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-1)
SpM: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-1, Sixth-1)
Sixth: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-1)
Lommy: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2)
Kath: ++Rune (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2, Rune-1)
Anguirel: ++Volo (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-1)
Volo: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-1)
Rune: ++Volo (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-2)
Mac: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2)
Mith: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-1)
Legate: ++Ang (Gil-1, Anguirel-4, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-1)
Aganzir: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-4, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-2)
Volo: --Ang, ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-4, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-2)
Ang: --Volo, ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-5, Rune-1, Volo-1, Legate-2)
Brinniel: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-5, Rune-1, Volo-1, Legate-3)

EDIT: Huh, xd with everything since Brinniel's vote.

[Mithalwen]

15 vote out of a possible 19 is not great .. but better than most general elections....

[Macalaure]

That's six vote counts in a row!

[Brinniel]

Ah, thanks for that, both Volo and SPM. I'm less confused now...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

And speaking of you, Brin, though I don't want to by even a little hint cause your premature death again, I don't like how you voted and said "let's hope it's not a double-lynch"... it's like apologizing for your wolfy comrades who will make it later.

EDIT: Not that they could any longer... just writing it down so that I don't forget it till toMorrow

[Mithalwen]

Thanks everyone ..I could get used to being a queen and getting my requests met instantly... and excessively

[Rikae]

Everybody quiet!

Sixth has been lynched.

The narration will be up within a couple minutes.

[Rikae]

Though faced with the daunting task of hunting down a quartet of murderous hyenas, the Downers were reluctant to get down to business. Half the day was spent in shooting ad-lib Lothlorien and Orthanc scenes; until the caterer and the bereaved orc gently redirected the group's attention to the grim business at hand (despite the protests of the elf extra). Saruman, however, insisted that he had not left the path of wisdom.

When Volo, who had received some earlier suspicion, proclaimed that he could not be killed, Anguirel and The Sixth Wizard emerged as the top suspects.

In the end, the protester against dwarven comic relief was chosen to die.
“Now how shall we do away with him?” asked Durelin.
“How about this?” Kath suggested, holding up a gallon bottle of vodka from the CG animator's secret stash.
Sauce and Aganzir grabbed the bewildered young man by either arm, and Boromir88 advanced toward him with a funnel and the bottle. “I bet he can't hold his liquor!”

Suddenly, Sixth wrestled himself free and sprinted off down the hall. The Downers pursued him up a stairway and into a darkened crawlspace just under the roof. They could hear his footsteps, which seemed to make a strange crunching sound.

Xyzzy turned on a flashlight to reveal a horrifying sight...

Sixth was running across a floor covered with hundreds of thousands of human skulls.

He cried out in disgust and nearly fell – putting out his hand to catch himself, he dislodged a plank which secured a hatch in the wall. It fell; and with a fiendish clicking and clattering, countless more skulls poured down, crushing the hapless Sixth to death.

The rest of the cast and crew stood staring.

Finally plucking up their courage, Mithalwen and Brinniel made their way across the skulls (which they now realised were merely props), to the body. Sixth looked like he always had...only less alive.

The Cast and Crew


Not Lost, but Gone Before:

Rikae - (Mod) CG Animator, Rendered and Lighted on Night 1
The Sixth Wizard - (Ordo) PDCR, buried in skulls on Day 1

Alive and Well:

Volo - Gollum
Legate of Amon Lanc - Sound Master/Saruman
Macalaure - The 7th orc in the 3rd row
Boromir88- Sir Boromir, playing Denethor
Mithalwen- Galadriel
Shastanis Althreduin - Legolas' stunt double
Durelin - Special Effects Pyrotechnician
The Saucepan Man- Set Catering Manager
Xyzzy - Young Fanboy
Brinniel- Wacky Foley Artist
Thinlómien- Non-Winged Balrog
Anguirel- Celeborn
Kath - Make-up Artist
Gil-Galad - Zombie-Gil-Galad
Aganzir - Smeagol
Rune -Tolkien geek who is estatic about being an Elf extra
Diamond18 - Lady in charge of Wigs and all other False Hairpieces

Day one is over. Night two has begun. Silence.
Wolves, send me your kill; others send me what you will.

[Rikae]

The unjust and untimely death of The Sixth Wizard demoralized the Downers terribly.

“Alas! I fear we cannot stay here longer,” said Gil-Galad. He looked toward the mountain of skulls and held up his prop sword. “Farewell, Sixth Wizard!” he cried. “What hope have we without you?”

Xyzzy answered “We must do without hope. Let us gird ourselves and weep no more! Come! We have a long road, and much to do.”

And so the Downers returned to their filming...

The sun was sinking behind the Sierra Nevada mountains, and the shadows were deepening in the studio when the Downers went back to their trailers. Night came beneath the fake plastic trees in the backlot as they walked, and the “Elves” uncovered their silver lamps.

In one trailer, a Downer flipped randomly through a copy of LOTR, then, finding something, sat back and frowned, deep in thought.

Two trailers were watched by unseen eyes that night; but for what purpose I cannot say.

Another Downer was unable to sleep. Mithalwen! Haven't you seen enough horror movies in your long life to know better than to leave the group when there are werewolves about? Alas; dedication to her craft was to be the actress' downfall. She returned to her glorified birdbath to rehearse the Mirror scene one last time...
She did not see the four misshapen figures lurking in the shadows; nor did she see the frayed electrical cord left with its end in the basin of liquid...

With lemonade from the stream Galadriel filled the basin to the brim...

but as she bent over to breathe on it, a grating voice spoke from directly behind her:

“Do not touch the water!”

Mithalwen started and her hand slipped into the electrified liquid.

She began to glow from within; her hair lifted as if by a breeze; her eyes lit up...

..she turned several lovely psychedelic colors by turns...turquoise, green, electric blue...

...the lights in the studio suddlenly went out...

...and the elf queen collapsed in a heap on the floor. Four grinning creatures circled around, eager to enjoy their freshly cooked and sizzling dinner.


When the Downers awoke, they had gained a prop for Shelob's lair; but this did not quite compensate for the loss of Mithalwen...

Day 2 has begun! Wolves, stop PM'ing. Everybody – take it away!!!

The Cast and Crew

Resting in Peace:

Rikae(Mod)–CG Animator, Rendered and Lighted on Night1
The Sixth Wizard(Ordo)–Protester against Dwarven Comic Relief, Buried in Skulls on Day1
Mithalwen(Ordo)–Galadriel, Illuminated...(Electrocuted) on Night2

Hanging in there:

Volo - Gollum
Legate of Amon Lanc - Sound Master/Saruman
Macalaure - The 7th orc in the 3rd row
Boromir88- Sir Boromir, playing Denethor
Shastanis Althreduin - Legolas' stunt double
Durelin - Special Effects Pyrotechnician
The Saucepan Man- Set Catering Manager
Xyzzy - Young Fanboy
Brinniel- Wacky Foley Artist
Thinlómien- Non-Winged Balrog
Anguirel- Celeborn
Kath - Make-up Artist
Gil-Galad - Zombie-Gil-Galad
Aganzir - Smeagol
Rune -Tolkien geek who is estatic about being an Elf extra
Diamond18 - Lady in charge of Wigs and all other False Hairpieces

[Volo]

Diamond: ++Gil-Galad (Gil-1)
Boromir: ++Boromir (Gil-1, Boro-1)
Boromir: --Boromir, ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-1)
SpM: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-1, Sixth-1)
Sixth: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-1)
Lommy: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2)
Kath: ++Rune (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2, Rune-1)
Anguirel: ++Volo (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-1)
Volo: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-1)
Rune: ++Volo (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-2)
Mac: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2)
Mith: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-1)
Legate: ++Ang (Gil-1, Anguirel-4, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-1)
Aganzir: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-4, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-2)
Volo: --Ang, ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-4, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-2)
Ang: --Volo, ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-5, Rune-1, Volo-1, Legate-2)
Brinniel: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-5, Rune-1, Volo-1, Legate-3)

The Sixth Wizard voters: SPM, Lommy, Mac, Volo, Ang
Legate voters: Mith, Aganzir, Brinniel

Of those SPM and Lommy are in the worst place if you ask me.
Me too as I basicly changed the lynch from Ang to Sixth.


I'll see if I can find anything interesting.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Woo, I'm feeling a little better. I feel bad for Mithalwen.... it's never any fun dying the first day. I know, cause I just did on PPT. I usually end up dying the first day or so. Based on yesterday's votes, and because I don't know if I'll be able to get on again later (mom thinks "sick" means "invalid" <_<) I'm going to go ahead and vote now, because I don't want to be modkilled.

++Legate

Edit: X'ed with Volo. Hi Volo!