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The Ruling Ring · 04-23-2003, 12:43 PM

Hi!

I have some questions about the ring, Narya the Great. How long did Gandalf have it? Did he possess it while the fellowship was on the quest, even back in Rivendell? Also, what are its powers? I know it controls fire, but I'm a little unclear about what that really means. Thanks for any help you can give me! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

TRR

Meela · 04-24-2003, 08:35 AM

All I can find so far is that Gandalf arriced in Middle Earth c.1000 of the Third Age, and that is when Cirdan gave to him Narya. I believe he had it throughout the Fellowship, as it passed into the West with him in September 29th, 3021 of the Third Age.
Gandalf's power came from Narya, as his power was associated with fire. To me, that also makes sense as to why he could make interesting smoke shapes when he smoked his pipe [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

the phantom · 04-24-2003, 12:21 PM

Take a look at these three threads. I skimmed the first couple posts of each and they looked like they might tell you some stuff you want to know.
http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin...c&f=1&t=001175
http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin...c&f=1&t=002785
http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin...c&f=1&t=001857

I'm sure there's others too.

Sillabub · 05-17-2003, 11:24 AM

Supposedly Gandalf received Narya (the elven ring of fire) from some old dude from the Grey Havens (as far as I'm concerned he's not an elf so therefore he shouldn't have it, and he STOLE it from it's rightful bearer). Narya is represented originally as a gold ring with a clear red stone set in it. It is the predominant ring on the cover of FOTR (on the version I have). But what I don't get is why the rings of Men don't have names or descriptions. And what if one or 2 of them weren't captured by sauron?

Legolas · 05-17-2003, 11:26 AM

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(as far as I'm concerned he's not an elf so therefore he shouldn't have it, and he STOLE it from it's rightful bearer).

No, Cirdan gave it to him - he knew it would help Gandalf more than it was helping him run the port.

lathspell · 05-19-2003, 03:12 AM

Cirdan was probably the oldest elf alive at the time (he even had a beard, I heard) and he was wise and foreseeing. He gave Narya, Ring of Fire, to Gandalf because because he forsaw that Gandalf was going to be the one to move all peaces against Sauron. The exact words of the conversation between them is in the Tale of Years before the list of the Third Age, also it might be in UT - Istari.

He still wore it while he was with the Fellowship, I think even after the Balrog-incident. But after the fall of Sauron it's powers were deminished and the Ring was of no use anymore. It dissapeared with him, when he departed for the second time from Middle-earth.

greetings,
lathspell

04-23-2003, 12:43 PM	#1
The Ruling Ring Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Deep Thought Posts: 83	Narya the Great? Hi! I have some questions about the ring, Narya the Great. How long did Gandalf have it? Did he possess it while the fellowship was on the quest, even back in Rivendell? Also, what are its powers? I know it controls fire, but I'm a little unclear about what that really means. Thanks for any help you can give me! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] TRR __________________ "Where now are the Dúnedain, Elessar, Elessar?"

04-24-2003, 08:35 AM	#2
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	All I can find so far is that Gandalf arriced in Middle Earth c.1000 of the Third Age, and that is when Cirdan gave to him Narya. I believe he had it throughout the Fellowship, as it passed into the West with him in September 29th, 3021 of the Third Age. Gandalf's power came from Narya, as his power was associated with fire. To me, that also makes sense as to why he could make interesting smoke shapes when he smoked his pipe [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

04-24-2003, 12:21 PM	#3
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Take a look at these three threads. I skimmed the first couple posts of each and they looked like they might tell you some stuff you want to know. http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin...c&f=1&t=001175 http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin...c&f=1&t=002785 http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin...c&f=1&t=001857 I'm sure there's others too. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

05-17-2003, 11:24 AM	#4
Sillabub Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: GONDOR!! Posts: 138	Supposedly Gandalf received Narya (the elven ring of fire) from some old dude from the Grey Havens (as far as I'm concerned he's not an elf so therefore he shouldn't have it, and he STOLE it from it's rightful bearer). Narya is represented originally as a gold ring with a clear red stone set in it. It is the predominant ring on the cover of FOTR (on the version I have). But what I don't get is why the rings of Men don't have names or descriptions. And what if one or 2 of them weren't captured by sauron? __________________ They were holding umbrellas. Not just any umbrellas- BLACK umbrellas. Not just ANY black umbrellas- these were...(knuckle-biting time) the BLACK UMBRELLAS OF DEATH!!!!! cue sinister music

05-19-2003, 03:12 AM	#6
lathspell Regenerating Ringkeeper Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 757	Cirdan was probably the oldest elf alive at the time (he even had a beard, I heard) and he was wise and foreseeing. He gave Narya, Ring of Fire, to Gandalf because because he forsaw that Gandalf was going to be the one to move all peaces against Sauron. The exact words of the conversation between them is in the Tale of Years before the list of the Third Age, also it might be in UT - Istari. He still wore it while he was with the Fellowship, I think even after the Balrog-incident. But after the fall of Sauron it's powers were deminished and the Ring was of no use anymore. It dissapeared with him, when he departed for the second time from Middle-earth. greetings, lathspell __________________ 'You?' cried Frodo. 'Yes, I, Gandalf the Grey,' said the wizard solemnly. 'There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.'