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06-22-2003, 01:35 AM

isn't this just the bets book ever!

i had such a good time reading it
it blew me away!

mordor136 · 06-22-2003, 02:02 AM

I'm really gld you liked it but I think this belongs in the novice and newcomers section

Tarien Ithil · 06-22-2003, 08:58 AM

Hey there!

Seems like I'm following you around, eh?
Just to inform you, celeborn, The Books forum is for in-depth discussions on Tolkien. You can go to the Novices and Newcomers thread if you'd like to express your passionate opinion and rather post in The Books when you're a bit more experianced Barrow-downer. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Best,

Tarien Ithil

Estelyn Telcontar · 06-22-2003, 10:40 AM

Yes, the Novices and Newcomers forum is the place for this topic, so I'm moving the thread there, where you may continue to read and post.

Meela · 06-22-2003, 01:42 PM

It's a good book. Not my favourite, but it has its qualities.

Arathiriel · 06-22-2003, 02:47 PM

LOTR is definitely on my Top 10 list of all time favorite books I have read in my life and yes I have read quite a few [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

I can honestly say that this is the only 1000+ page book I have ever read twice with a third time in the works!

Yes, this is one of the best books ever written! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Yavanna228 · 06-22-2003, 07:53 PM

Exactly which book are you talking about, celeborn? I suppose that really doesn't matter, because any Tolkien book is good, in my opinion, and I can safely assume that I do and will love them all. I suppose my favourite though would have to be the Return of the King book from the LOTR trilogy. The Silmarillion would probably be next in line, with the Fellowship of the Ring close behind(gotta love Tom Bombadil [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]).
Peace

Lady_Galadriel · 06-22-2003, 08:44 PM

I am truly glad you liked it!!!!

Aule · 06-24-2003, 05:29 PM

I despised Tolkien and all he stood for [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Just kidding....obvuiously [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I loved the guy and his works, otherwis ei wouldn;t be here

Duncariel · 06-25-2003, 10:12 AM

These are the only three books that I have read close to six times in two years.

Glad you enjoyed it.

Finwe · 06-25-2003, 10:17 AM

My favorite book in the trilogy is definitely Return of the King, with Fellowship of the Ring as a close second. My second-favorite Tolkien book is The Silmarillion, and Unfinished Tales is my third favorite. I've always loved the stories of the First Age, so I read just about every book on them that I can get my hands on.

Tinuviel of Denton · 06-25-2003, 11:26 AM

I read this book when I was ten, and have since read it about four times (I'm not sure exactly how many, because sometimes I just pick it up and randomly start reading. You should try it sometime)

Tolkien's work is definately among my favorite books of all time.

Tarien Ithil · 07-02-2003, 11:50 AM

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read this book when I was ten

*whistles* Tinuviel, I am impressed! Really, this book is quite complicated for a ten-year-old, but well done for reading it at such a young age! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

GaladrieloftheOlden · 07-02-2003, 11:54 AM

Ooh, I feel complimented too... I read it at 10 as well. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

~Menelien

Darby · 07-02-2003, 02:16 PM

I was about 12 when I read the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings - and was just crushed when I couldn't get through the Silmarillion. I was in University before I had the courage to pick it up again! (Early traumas... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img])
The youngest I've ever heard of anyone reading Tolkien was starting the Hobbit at 4, followed by LOTR between 5 and 6. That wasn't fully independant reading, though, as the stories had been read aloud to the child first.

*Varda* · 07-02-2003, 03:03 PM

I attempted Lord of the Rings when I was 11 - but I stopped for a month half way through the Two Towers and just couldn't get back into it without restarting. Then I read them when I was 12 and I was hooked, even though my interest wasn't seriously rekindled until the movie came out, when I reread them about 4 times [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Tinuviel of Denton · 07-02-2003, 06:42 PM

I read the Silm when I was 11 (though it took me several tries to get to the end.)

I must say that reading the story at such a young age may be impressive, but I missed a great deal of depth, as I was only interested in "What happens next?"

Darby · 07-02-2003, 07:32 PM

I agree completely. At twelve, I really WAS only interested in "What happens next?" But, then I went and read them again and again. And every couple years I noticed something in the books that I'd never seen there before.
Sure, young kids don't get the same things out of the books that they will when they are older, but I don't think that means they shouldn't read them.
I think it just means that they should someday read the book again and find out what they missed the first time through.
(Similarly, I remember being amazed at the social and political subtexts in Animal Farm when we studied it in highschool - I'd read it as a kid and seriously thought it was just a story about some animals being mean to each other, lol!)

Iarwain · 07-02-2003, 09:21 PM

Lord of the Rings at 8, Silmarillion at 11 (after a failed attempt at age 9). LotR is truly great. I'd disagree with those who say that youngsters don't get as much out of it. Perhaps I'm more emotional when I read it now, but I did get a full sense of character, as well an understanding of the Fellowship's struggles, and the utter length of the Quest.

Iarwain

edit-I fixed a typo in my signature

[ July 05, 2003: Message edited by: Iarwain ]

elven maiden Earwen · 07-02-2003, 10:34 PM

I read LOTR, Sil, The Hobbit, Ut and The Lost Tale Part 1 & 2 when I was 11. The Lost Tales took me forever but The rest I went though so fast because they were so good. Some of you were differnt than me because you sayed that all you cared about what happend next but for me I was thinking what happens next and I don't want this part to end durring the whole book. Now I'm 12 and I've reread my favorite parts in the books many times. It feals odd because I know I'm one of the youngest people here but I feal like my knowalge of Tolkien's books is just as good as anybody's here.

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I just pick it up and randomly start reading

I do that a lot but I mostly read my favorite parts.

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I'd disagree with those who say that youngsters don't get as much out of it.

I rearly disagree with anyone whoi thought young people couldn't get anything out of it, because I feal like I have gotten a lot out of it.

Darby · 07-03-2003, 06:48 AM

Maybe it would be fair to say that when you are younger, you get something different out of the Lord of the Rings than when you are older?
Different doesn't have to mean less. And what that difference might be, could be different for each person.
But I have found that growing up (and I personally plan to keep on "growing up" until I die) has really changed the way I read the books. Me personally, I couldn't have appreciated Sam's role before I had children - and found myself in devoted service to short unreasonable people who rarely notice how I'm feeling about anything, [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img].

Tarien Ithil · 07-12-2003, 04:39 AM

It's different for every person. Some can read it at 8 (well done, Iarwain! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]) and soem read it as adults. I read it at 12. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

06-22-2003, 01:35 AM	#1
celeborn Guest Posts: n/a	i LOVE this book! isn't this just the bets book ever! i had such a good time reading it it blew me away!

06-22-2003, 02:02 AM	#2
mordor136 Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: snowboarding with Morgoth in the void Posts: 221	I'm really gld you liked it but I think this belongs in the novice and newcomers section __________________ It's not A.D.D I'm just ignoring you. I'm like a super-hero with no powers or motivation

06-22-2003, 08:58 AM	#3
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	Hey there! Seems like I'm following you around, eh? Just to inform you, celeborn, The Books forum is for in-depth discussions on Tolkien. You can go to the Novices and Newcomers thread if you'd like to express your passionate opinion and rather post in The Books when you're a bit more experianced Barrow-downer. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Best, Tarien Ithil __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

06-22-2003, 10:40 AM	#4
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Yes, the Novices and Newcomers forum is the place for this topic, so I'm moving the thread there, where you may continue to read and post. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

06-22-2003, 01:42 PM	#5
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	It's a good book. Not my favourite, but it has its qualities. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

06-22-2003, 02:47 PM	#6
Arathiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Blessed Realm Posts: 284	LOTR is definitely on my Top 10 list of all time favorite books I have read in my life and yes I have read quite a few [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I can honestly say that this is the only 1000+ page book I have ever read twice with a third time in the works! Yes, this is one of the best books ever written! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ 'I love him. He's like that, and sometimes it shines through, somehow. But I love him, whether or no.' - Samwise Gamgee

06-22-2003, 07:53 PM	#7
Yavanna228 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: on the wings of the morning Posts: 394	Exactly which book are you talking about, celeborn? I suppose that really doesn't matter, because any Tolkien book is good, in my opinion, and I can safely assume that I do and will love them all. I suppose my favourite though would have to be the Return of the King book from the LOTR trilogy. The Silmarillion would probably be next in line, with the Fellowship of the Ring close behind(gotta love Tom Bombadil [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]). Peace __________________ 'Dulaman na Binne Bui, Dulaman Gaelach/ Dulaman na farraige, 's e b'fhearr a bhi in Eirinn!'

06-22-2003, 08:44 PM	#8
Lady_Galadriel Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Shire, Hobbiton, Middle Earth Posts: 135	I am truly glad you liked it!!!! __________________ " You can't toast me!"

06-24-2003, 05:29 PM	#9
Aule Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hammering away in Valinor Posts: 126	I despised Tolkien and all he stood for [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Just kidding....obvuiously [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I loved the guy and his works, otherwis ei wouldn;t be here __________________ For him that is pitiless, the deeds of pity are ever strange and beyond reckoning - of Melkor before his final downfall

06-25-2003, 10:12 AM	#10
Duncariel Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Land of the Ice and Snow Posts: 226	These are the only three books that I have read close to six times in two years. Glad you enjoyed it. __________________ Middle-earth: Insanity "What, the peons aren't trusted?" -- Yazoo, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children

06-25-2003, 10:17 AM	#11
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	My favorite book in the trilogy is definitely Return of the King, with Fellowship of the Ring as a close second. My second-favorite Tolkien book is The Silmarillion, and Unfinished Tales is my third favorite. I've always loved the stories of the First Age, so I read just about every book on them that I can get my hands on. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

06-25-2003, 11:26 AM	#12
Tinuviel of Denton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amid the hills and dales of the Shire... or not. Posts: 579	I read this book when I was ten, and have since read it about four times (I'm not sure exactly how many, because sometimes I just pick it up and randomly start reading. You should try it sometime) Tolkien's work is definately among my favorite books of all time.

07-02-2003, 11:54 AM	#14
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,514	Ooh, I feel complimented too... I read it at 10 as well. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] ~Menelien __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."

07-02-2003, 02:16 PM	#15
Darby Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The land of ice and snow. Posts: 32	I was about 12 when I read the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings - and was just crushed when I couldn't get through the Silmarillion. I was in University before I had the courage to pick it up again! (Early traumas... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]) The youngest I've ever heard of anyone reading Tolkien was starting the Hobbit at 4, followed by LOTR between 5 and 6. That wasn't fully independant reading, though, as the stories had been read aloud to the child first. __________________ My favorite scene that never made it into the movie: "By Elbereth and Luthien the fair," said Frodo with a last effort, lifting up his sword, "You shall have neither the Ring nor me!"

07-02-2003, 03:03 PM	#16
Varda Maiden of Tears Join Date: May 2002 Location: Valinor. Posts: 571	I attempted Lord of the Rings when I was 11 - but I stopped for a month half way through the Two Towers and just couldn't get back into it without restarting. Then I read them when I was 12 and I was hooked, even though my interest wasn't seriously rekindled until the movie came out, when I reread them about 4 times [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ 'It must often be so, Sam, when things are in danger: someone has to give them up, lose them, so that others may keep them' ~Frodo "Life is hard. After all, it kills you." - Katharine Hepburn

07-02-2003, 06:42 PM	#17
Tinuviel of Denton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amid the hills and dales of the Shire... or not. Posts: 579	I read the Silm when I was 11 (though it took me several tries to get to the end.) I must say that reading the story at such a young age may be impressive, but I missed a great deal of depth, as I was only interested in "What happens next?"

07-02-2003, 07:32 PM	#18
Darby Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The land of ice and snow. Posts: 32	I agree completely. At twelve, I really WAS only interested in "What happens next?" But, then I went and read them again and again. And every couple years I noticed something in the books that I'd never seen there before. Sure, young kids don't get the same things out of the books that they will when they are older, but I don't think that means they shouldn't read them. I think it just means that they should someday read the book again and find out what they missed the first time through. (Similarly, I remember being amazed at the social and political subtexts in Animal Farm when we studied it in highschool - I'd read it as a kid and seriously thought it was just a story about some animals being mean to each other, lol!) __________________ My favorite scene that never made it into the movie: "By Elbereth and Luthien the fair," said Frodo with a last effort, lifting up his sword, "You shall have neither the Ring nor me!"

07-02-2003, 09:21 PM	#19
Iarwain Pugnaciously Primordial Paradox Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Birnham Wood Posts: 800	Lord of the Rings at 8, Silmarillion at 11 (after a failed attempt at age 9). LotR is truly great. I'd disagree with those who say that youngsters don't get as much out of it. Perhaps I'm more emotional when I read it now, but I did get a full sense of character, as well an understanding of the Fellowship's struggles, and the utter length of the Quest. Iarwain edit-I fixed a typo in my signature [ July 05, 2003: Message edited by: Iarwain ] __________________ "And what are oaths but words we say to God?"

07-03-2003, 06:48 AM	#21
Darby Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The land of ice and snow. Posts: 32	Maybe it would be fair to say that when you are younger, you get something different out of the Lord of the Rings than when you are older? Different doesn't have to mean less. And what that difference might be, could be different for each person. But I have found that growing up (and I personally plan to keep on "growing up" until I die) has really changed the way I read the books. Me personally, I couldn't have appreciated Sam's role before I had children - and found myself in devoted service to short unreasonable people who rarely notice how I'm feeling about anything, [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]. __________________ My favorite scene that never made it into the movie: "By Elbereth and Luthien the fair," said Frodo with a last effort, lifting up his sword, "You shall have neither the Ring nor me!"

07-12-2003, 04:39 AM	#22
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	It's different for every person. Some can read it at 8 (well done, Iarwain! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]) and soem read it as adults. I read it at 12. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow