Nine Rings....Ten men wielding them?

[Caunwaithon]

I haven't finished reading the LOTR book series, however, I have watched all of the exteneded edition movies. In it, It says that Aragorn is wearing a ring of power.

Wait....what?

Nine rings gifted to the rulers of men.......

So where does this tenth ring come from? The nazgul are the "Nine Rulers of men".

So is Aragorn using an dwarve's ring? Or an Elf's? Or did he get it out of his package of "Gondorian Fruit loops" one morning?

It is described as-

"Two snakes, wrapped around each other, with emerald eyes"

In the movie.

[Gothmog]

The ring Aragorn wears is the Ring of Barahir, a ring given to Barahir by Finrod after one of the great battles; Dagor Bragollach. It's later used by Beren and was passed on as heirloom among his descendants. So the ring is no ring of power, at least not of that great power.

But I've understood that you've just began reading Silmarillion, right? If so, you can look forward to find the answer to this question of yours. I'm not going to be more specific than this Happy reading, and welcome to the Downs!

[Caunwaithon]

Hmm....well, I need to stop using the movies as a source, lol..

Because in the movies, saruman says-

"Gandalf thinks he has found the hier of Isildur- A ranger from the north with a ring of power...."

he then looks through a book, and finds a description of it.


Thanks for answering my question.

[Elu Ancalime]

Really!? Well i own Rotk Ext, but never seen the others Ext. Well, thats another mistake I guess....

Which movie is it in?

I thought Sauruman was gifted in Ring-lore, apparently PJ thinks (and who knows, maybe hes right?) that 'shiney things can be powerful.'
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[JennyHallu]

ooh...shiny.

Perhaps "ring of power" in the movie meant a ring of temporal, earthly power. The ring of Barahir was a powerful ring, and that cannot be argued, but because of what it represented, not what it could do.

I fear here we are seeing only a difference between power and Power.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I don't know a lot about the films, but depending on the context Saruman might think that Aragorn has the One, being that he is Isildur's heir and that Isildur was its last known owner. Saruman had devoted a great deal of time to the search for Isildur's body, and in Unfinished Tales we discover that he had found it, but not the Ring. Then again, being Saruman he might think that Aragorn would surely take the Ring from a Hobbit eventually.

Perhaps this scene was an attempt to explain Sauron's sudden interest in Minas Tirith, which in the book is the result of Aragorn looking into the Palantir of Orthanc, but not having watched the extended editions the above are all guesses.

Saruman knew a great deal about ring-lore; in fact he claimed to have made a ring of power for himself, although what powers it conferred, if any, were never disclosed.

As far as I know, the Ring of Barahir had no power other than as a token of the alliance between Finrod and its bearer.

[The Sixth Wizard]

Yes, it was probably just an heirloom. <coughcoughboringcoughcough>

[Goldberry101]

It says in the silmarillion that the ring has no real power, it is just a symbol of the alliance. O, and if whoever started this thread ever reads this, I think it's a good idea to stop using the movies as a reliable source. Not that I don't like them, it's just they are very different from the books.

[The Tennis Ball Kid]

The actual quote from the film, if anyone is interested , is:

"The Ring of Barahir. So Gandalf Greyhame thinks he has found Isildur's heir. The lost king of Gondor. He is a fool. The line was broken years ago. It matters not. The world of men shall fall. It will begin at Edoras."

Nothing about it being a "ring of power"...




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