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Helkahothion · 02-26-2003, 08:00 AM

In the books, Sauron demands money from countries he conquers. Why would he do that? I don't see where he needs money for.

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littlemanpoet · 02-26-2003, 08:59 AM

Huh! To pay for all those Easterling and Southron armies? He did have an empire to manage, and he probably delegated a lot to the Mouth of Sauron and other servants, and there was a lot of agriculture going on near the Sea of Nurnen, and trade and all that takes money. Even for a Maia gone bad. That's my best guess.

Helkahothion · 02-26-2003, 09:23 AM

But wheren't the Harad and the Easterlings slaves of Sauron?

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**The Saucepan Man** · 02-26-2003, 04:48 PM

And the gas bills for Mount Doom must have been pretty hefty ...

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Meoshi · 02-26-2003, 05:04 PM

Not to mention the electric bill for keeping the Eye up and running all the time. (If it looked anything like the movie, which it wouldn't)

Greyhame · 02-27-2003, 12:40 AM

You have to realize that Tolkien wanted Middle-earth to be as realistic as possible, NOT some fairy-land governed only by magic or such things. It would be ridiculous to expect Sauron to run his empire without money. Mordor was a twisted wasteland with few natural resources, so he would need to trade with other countries for the metal, wood, etc. he would need to build and equip his armies.

Also, I don't believe that the Haradrim and Easterlings were slaves at all, but willing political allies. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 02-27-2003, 06:22 AM

They were willing but only because Sauron had been 'working' them so that they would think that way. Kind of like a politician. Albeit an extremely scary politician.

Sauron would have helped to maintain the life of the Southrons and Easterlings but even if he didn't, wouldn't he still have enough sway over them so that they would not revolt? They would be too scared to start a rebellion.

Arvedui III · 02-27-2003, 07:13 AM

Yes. Big scary eye with Nazgul at his beck and call. If I were a Easternling I'd obey that. Sauron's not really a polition. He's kinda got a "rule by fear" thing going.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 02-28-2003, 06:51 AM

Maybe you don't have the same experience of politicians as I have!

[ February 28, 2003: Message edited by: Eomer of the Rohirrim ]

Helkahothion · 03-01-2003, 01:55 PM

My good old Greyhame,

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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the guy who be short · 03-01-2003, 05:04 PM

maybe he used the coins to pelt his enemies' armies?

02-26-2003, 08:00 AM	#1
Helkahothion Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The inside of Legolas' lungs Posts: 1,005	Sauron with chash In the books, Sauron demands money from countries he conquers. Why would he do that? I don't see where he needs money for. Greetings, Anuion ________ Amber Trichomes Last edited by Helkahothion; 03-07-2011 at 01:48 AM.

02-26-2003, 09:23 AM	#3
Helkahothion Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The inside of Legolas' lungs Posts: 1,005	But wheren't the Harad and the Easterlings slaves of Sauron? Greetings, Anuion ________ FORD C-SERIES HISTORY Last edited by Helkahothion; 03-07-2011 at 01:49 AM.

02-26-2003, 04:48 PM	#4
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	And the gas bills for Mount Doom must have been pretty hefty ... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-27-2003, 12:40 AM	#6
Greyhame Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: illinois Posts: 42	You have to realize that Tolkien wanted Middle-earth to be as realistic as possible, NOT some fairy-land governed only by magic or such things. It would be ridiculous to expect Sauron to run his empire without money. Mordor was a twisted wasteland with few natural resources, so he would need to trade with other countries for the metal, wood, etc. he would need to build and equip his armies. Also, I don't believe that the Haradrim and Easterlings were slaves at all, but willing political allies. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. __________________ Poo-tee-weet?

02-27-2003, 06:22 AM	#7
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	They were willing but only because Sauron had been 'working' them so that they would think that way. Kind of like a politician. Albeit an extremely scary politician. Sauron would have helped to maintain the life of the Southrons and Easterlings but even if he didn't, wouldn't he still have enough sway over them so that they would not revolt? They would be too scared to start a rebellion. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

02-26-2003, 08:59 AM	#2
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Huh! To pay for all those Easterling and Southron armies? He did have an empire to manage, and he probably delegated a lot to the Mouth of Sauron and other servants, and there was a lot of agriculture going on near the Sea of Nurnen, and trade and all that takes money. Even for a Maia gone bad. That's my best guess.

02-26-2003, 05:04 PM	#5
Meoshi Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atop the peak of Kalormë Posts: 163	Not to mention the electric bill for keeping the Eye up and running all the time. (If it looked anything like the movie, which it wouldn't)

02-27-2003, 07:13 AM	#8
Arvedui III Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Rohan, with Carolina on my mind Posts: 629	Yes. Big scary eye with Nazgul at his beck and call. If I were a Easternling I'd obey that. Sauron's not really a polition. He's kinda got a "rule by fear" thing going. __________________ I have no idea what you just said, but I'm inspired!

02-28-2003, 06:51 AM	#9
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Maybe you don't have the same experience of politicians as I have! [ February 28, 2003: Message edited by: Eomer of the Rohirrim ] __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

03-01-2003, 05:04 PM	#11
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	maybe he used the coins to pelt his enemies' armies?