The wives of Merry and Pippin - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lalaith · 04-18-2003, 09:29 AM

I was wondering about this. Firstly, who was Diamond of Long Cleeve? I read somewhere she was a Took, but is there anything known about her parents?
Secondly, in my old edition of LotR, there is no mention of Merry marrying Estella Bolger. Yet I've seen it in newer editions. When did this creep in?

Dain · 04-18-2003, 09:47 AM

I don't know about Diamond, but my copy on RotK only mentions Estella in the Family Tree part of Appendix C, if that helps...

Carlas · 04-18-2003, 10:15 AM

Yes, I also have a older version of Lotr. It only has one appendix about Aragorn and Arwen. But in the newer versions, there are many more of them. Appendix C, like Dain mentionned, shows family trees of the four hobbits we know best: Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin. It shows both their wives, but only Estella is shown with her own family. Estella Bolger is actually Fredegar's(Fatty's) sister!

Lalaith · 04-18-2003, 10:19 AM

Indeed she is. But the older versions of LotR that were in seperate volumes also had the appendices, and I'm pretty sure that they didn't have the Estella marriage.

Morwen Tindomerel · 04-18-2003, 10:31 AM

As I understand it the earliest editions of LOTR had a number of minor errors that were corrected in later issues. Estella's name was one of these.

04-18-2003, 09:29 AM	#1
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	The wives of Merry and Pippin I was wondering about this. Firstly, who was Diamond of Long Cleeve? I read somewhere she was a Took, but is there anything known about her parents? Secondly, in my old edition of LotR, there is no mention of Merry marrying Estella Bolger. Yet I've seen it in newer editions. When did this creep in? __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

04-18-2003, 09:47 AM	#2
Dain Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Iron Hills Posts: 127	I don't know about Diamond, but my copy on RotK only mentions Estella in the Family Tree part of Appendix C, if that helps... __________________ Only I have looked through the shadow of the Gate. Beyond the shadow it waits for you still: Durin's Bane.

04-18-2003, 10:15 AM	#3
Carlas Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lost in the Fog of the Downs Posts: 359	Yes, I also have a older version of Lotr. It only has one appendix about Aragorn and Arwen. But in the newer versions, there are many more of them. Appendix C, like Dain mentionned, shows family trees of the four hobbits we know best: Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin. It shows both their wives, but only Estella is shown with her own family. Estella Bolger is actually Fredegar's(Fatty's) sister! __________________ 七転八起...

04-18-2003, 10:19 AM	#4
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Indeed she is. But the older versions of LotR that were in seperate volumes also had the appendices, and I'm pretty sure that they didn't have the Estella marriage. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

04-18-2003, 10:31 AM	#5
Morwen Tindomerel Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Minas Anor or Annuminas the Golden Posts: 187	As I understand it the earliest editions of LOTR had a number of minor errors that were corrected in later issues. Estella's name was one of these.