Elfhelm and Aragorn - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 12-11-2002, 09:41 AM

Any idea why Elfhelm was a chief witness at Aragorn's coronation? How many did Aragorn need? And did they have to be Men?

Selmo · 12-12-2002, 03:56 AM

I doubt very much if Tolkien ever considered how many legal Witnesses were necessary for a Gondorian coronation. I suppose that, in an emergency, the Steward and one representative of the Council, the Lords and the people would be enough, though in practice many more would be invited. All the legal Witnesses would have to be men of Gondor.

Apart from the legaly necessary Witnesses, other people, both from Gondor and other lands, would be invited to take part.
Elfhelm was a Marshal of Rohan, one that nation's most senior leaders. Rohan was Gondor's only formal ally who had just helped to save Minas Tirith. It would be quite natural for representatives of Rohan to be asked to be Witnesses at Aragorn's coronation, as a matter of courtesy.

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Eomer of the Rohirrim · 12-12-2002, 09:03 AM

I guess if it was a 'Men' thing then it might make sense. I'd imagine that Aragorn would have chosen Frodo et al for the job but, tradition I suppose.

Selmo · 12-13-2002, 04:01 AM

If I remember rightly, Frodo did play a central role in the coronation, more important than that of a Witness.

12-11-2002, 09:41 AM	#1
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Elfhelm and Aragorn Any idea why Elfhelm was a chief witness at Aragorn's coronation? How many did Aragorn need? And did they have to be Men? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

12-12-2002, 09:03 AM	#3
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I guess if it was a 'Men' thing then it might make sense. I'd imagine that Aragorn would have chosen Frodo et al for the job but, tradition I suppose. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

12-12-2002, 03:56 AM	#2
Selmo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Shire (Staffordshire), United Kingdom Posts: 273	I doubt very much if Tolkien ever considered how many legal Witnesses were necessary for a Gondorian coronation. I suppose that, in an emergency, the Steward and one representative of the Council, the Lords and the people would be enough, though in practice many more would be invited. All the legal Witnesses would have to be men of Gondor. Apart from the legaly necessary Witnesses, other people, both from Gondor and other lands, would be invited to take part. Elfhelm was a Marshal of Rohan, one that nation's most senior leaders. Rohan was Gondor's only formal ally who had just helped to save Minas Tirith. It would be quite natural for representatives of Rohan to be asked to be Witnesses at Aragorn's coronation, as a matter of courtesy. [ December 12, 2002: Message edited by: Selmo ] [ December 12, 2002: Message edited by: Selmo ]

12-13-2002, 04:01 AM	#4
Selmo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Shire (Staffordshire), United Kingdom Posts: 273	If I remember rightly, Frodo did play a central role in the coronation, more important than that of a Witness.