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Old 02-14-2005, 02:25 PM   #41
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Man, that just annoys the heck out of me! Where are the Gondorian (and Arnorian) secondary characters!?!?
Except for that guy who hangs around Faramir, they (the Gondorian Silverados) look like clones. I wouldn't care if they weren't even mentioned - PJ, at least give them some individuality! I think that that was better handled with the Rohirrim...hmmm.

Wait a moment! Rohan gets Theoden, Eomer, Eowyn, Wormtongue, the guy who dresses Theoden in armor, that little boy with the too big sword, the little kids on horseback and their mother, etc - am I forgetting anyone?

Gondor gets Denethor of the poor table manners, Faramir, Boromir (for a little while), that guy who hangs around Faramir, the guy who gets shot during the Orc reverse D-Day invasion - can't think of anyone else as no one sticks out in my mind (admittedly I haven't watched ROTK EE as much as TTT EE).

So Gondor was shorted just a *few* extras. Conspiracy!
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Old 02-15-2005, 08:07 AM   #42
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How hard would it have been to include 'slaves' on the ships (show one prototype like Kevin Sorbo aka "Hercules" from the TV show) that after the attack of the AotD are suddenly (in the next shot) in control of the ships, and follow behind Aragorn etc when they de-boat at the harbor? It could be twenty ex-slaves, yet it would show that Aragorn was gathering people (humans) together wherever he went. The Undead could still go about with their green blob attack.

But i don't think really in the book Slaves were mentioned being used by the Corsairs... orignally only the Army of the dead do was help the men at Lebennin with the corairs then left, so Aragorn had about 300 men with him as reinforcements...
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Old 02-16-2005, 03:54 AM   #43
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They are simply too destructive, so that they end up winning the battle and saving the day, rather than the men of Rohan and Gondor.
To me the most important thing that happened in the whole of the Battle of Pellonor fields was the killing of the Witch King by Merry and Eoywn. THIS to me is what 'saved the day' for Minas Tirith. Yes, Aragorn and his troops also assisted in polishing off the hordes or Orcs, but, in ANY battle, one of the Key Objectives is to kill the Commander of the opposing troops. When this is done, a lot of the time an army can fall into dissaray with no leadership.

Therefore, in my humble opinion, Merry and Eowyn save Minas Tirith (and as I have pointed out a few times before in other threads, via the Domino effect, greatly assist in saving Middle-earth)
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Old 02-18-2005, 09:04 AM   #44
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but, in ANY battle, one of the Key Objectives is to kill the Commander of the opposing troops.
Never saw it that way before, but it makes perfect sense now.


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via the Domino effect
Don't you mean the Dominic (Monaghan) effect?
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