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Leona · 05-15-2003, 10:09 PM

I know this is a thread on swords, but just to quickly clear up the thing about Gimli's axes, He carried two throwing axes in side holsters, like guns, one short one handed ax he used as a walking stick, a two handed fighting ax (double bladed)across his back, and a second single bladed fighting ax that had a longer handle, which made it easier to control by giving it slightly more balance.

In refrence to the spelling about axes, I think you spell it singularly, ax, and pluraly, axes.

I stil think a dirk is the coolest form of sword since it is smaller and easier to control, and since I have a smaller figure, I probably would be unable to weild a larger sword.

If you are looking for something that is silent and deadly, look no further than throwing knives. They are small, arodynamic, and perfectly balanced for throwing. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Salocin · 05-16-2003, 02:06 PM

Another *small* person who loves dirks! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] .

As for the power of weapons, the maker of the weapon gives it its power as well as the matterial, forging technic, etc..., but those are all really part of what the maker makes it. The maker gives the power and the weilder uses it. For example, Narsil would have done Frodo little good, he couldn't used its power. Elendil and latter Isuldur on the other hand could. If they had used just any sword, though, they would not have been able to do the things they did, like say, cutting off the ring.

Leona · 05-17-2003, 09:16 PM

Salocin, I think you are quite right. A lot goes in to being able to weild a blade effectivly, but I think that takent is also required. I mean, if Aragorn did not know how weild a blade, the sword reforged would have done him no good.

I've always liked dirks because they just seem like the thing for me. Since I'm not too strong [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]
I cannot handle many of the larger swords, or an ax, or a bow and arrow, it is very difficult for me to pull the string taut (I hope that's the right spelling) enough to shot it any decent distance.

I think that all of the characters were very strong in phisical strenght to be able to weild such weapons, I also think they must have had a lot of practice.

QuickSlash · 05-18-2003, 03:07 PM

I'd like to also pull things slightly to the side. I have a dear friend who enjoys the various methods of fighting. At some point a long while back, I mentioned that I'd always wanted a hand and a half sword, and he responded that an axe would be better any day.

Now, I know an extreme little about medieval weapons (the most I can do is name a few :\). I tried once to find an article that would explain the advantages and disadvantages of blades, but never found it. I'd like to ask what you informed people think. I understand it'd be whoever's more skilled, but is there anything more than that between a sword and an axe?

Salocin · 05-18-2003, 04:41 PM

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I think that takent is also required. I mean, if Aragorn did not know how weild a blade, the sword reforged would have done him no good.

Thats why I gave the example of a powerful sword doing Frodo no good.

One Axe to Rule them All · 05-19-2003, 06:16 PM

ahh... my old thread is back from the grave!

nice diagram of the sword, i really enjoyed it.

of course now that i'm into making my own stuff, i'm preparing to make my first bladed weapon!

now nobody freak out about safety and me losing fingers and making a menace to society
of myself or anything, i know what i'm doing!

Bill Ferny · 05-19-2003, 10:27 PM

One Axe,

You might be interested in the discussions on this forum: The Arador Library

I find the Arador website very interesting, and the forum pretty informative at times (but beware, there are some gross errors both on the site and in the forum).

One Axe to Rule them All · 05-28-2003, 11:29 AM

yes, very interesting....

Helkahothion · 06-01-2003, 07:38 AM

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as they say: the sword picks its master(or thats what i say anyway)

A little scent of Harry Potter there? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Would it be possible for the swords to all be bound to a certain fate like humans? I've seen it with Andúril, but not with many others. Can the swords of the wielder suffer the same doom as it's owner?

Suilad,

Anuion

Rumil · 06-04-2003, 02:44 PM

Hi Swordsters, [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I was looking through HoME 8 the other day (he said smugly) and found Denethor describing Pippin's Barrow-sword as a sax. Obviously this description didn't make the 'cut', but perhaps that was due to JRRT fearing that people would be unfamiliar with the term.

As I'm sure you know, a sax was a heavy single edged short-ish sword favoured by the early Saxons (thus the name) and later used by others eg. Vikings. It was designed for cutting rather than stabbing, but I'd guess it would stab quite effectively too.

here's a picture of a reconstruction of a Viking sax

05-15-2003, 10:09 PM	#81
Leona Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Somewhere in Ithilen Posts: 28	I know this is a thread on swords, but just to quickly clear up the thing about Gimli's axes, He carried two throwing axes in side holsters, like guns, one short one handed ax he used as a walking stick, a two handed fighting ax (double bladed)across his back, and a second single bladed fighting ax that had a longer handle, which made it easier to control by giving it slightly more balance. In refrence to the spelling about axes, I think you spell it singularly, ax, and pluraly, axes. I stil think a dirk is the coolest form of sword since it is smaller and easier to control, and since I have a smaller figure, I probably would be unable to weild a larger sword. If you are looking for something that is silent and deadly, look no further than throwing knives. They are small, arodynamic, and perfectly balanced for throwing. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ You don't really see me, just the cloak of shadows and lies I've drawn around me. -Arina

05-16-2003, 02:06 PM	#82
Salocin Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Zion Posts: 106	Another small person who loves dirks! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] . As for the power of weapons, the maker of the weapon gives it its power as well as the matterial, forging technic, etc..., but those are all really part of what the maker makes it. The maker gives the power and the weilder uses it. For example, Narsil would have done Frodo little good, he couldn't used its power. Elendil and latter Isuldur on the other hand could. If they had used just any sword, though, they would not have been able to do the things they did, like say, cutting off the ring. __________________ Christ is Risen!

05-17-2003, 09:16 PM	#83
Leona Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: Somewhere in Ithilen Posts: 28	Salocin, I think you are quite right. A lot goes in to being able to weild a blade effectivly, but I think that takent is also required. I mean, if Aragorn did not know how weild a blade, the sword reforged would have done him no good. I've always liked dirks because they just seem like the thing for me. Since I'm not too strong [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] I cannot handle many of the larger swords, or an ax, or a bow and arrow, it is very difficult for me to pull the string taut (I hope that's the right spelling) enough to shot it any decent distance. I think that all of the characters were very strong in phisical strenght to be able to weild such weapons, I also think they must have had a lot of practice. __________________ You don't really see me, just the cloak of shadows and lies I've drawn around me. -Arina

05-18-2003, 03:07 PM	#84
QuickSlash Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not here. Posts: 121	I'd like to also pull things slightly to the side. I have a dear friend who enjoys the various methods of fighting. At some point a long while back, I mentioned that I'd always wanted a hand and a half sword, and he responded that an axe would be better any day. Now, I know an extreme little about medieval weapons (the most I can do is name a few :\). I tried once to find an article that would explain the advantages and disadvantages of blades, but never found it. I'd like to ask what you informed people think. I understand it'd be whoever's more skilled, but is there anything more than that between a sword and an axe? __________________ We're here and now, but will we ever be again? / 'Cause I have found / All that shimmers in this world is sure to fade, away, again. -Shimmer, Fuel

05-19-2003, 06:16 PM	#86
One Axe to Rule them All Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Citadel Posts: 212	ahh... my old thread is back from the grave! nice diagram of the sword, i really enjoyed it. of course now that i'm into making my own stuff, i'm preparing to make my first bladed weapon! now nobody freak out about safety and me losing fingers and making a menace to society of myself or anything, i know what i'm doing! __________________ Why are you reading this? Go outside, be happy, get some sunlight! You're so pasty and thin! You horrify me, GO! Get some light before they take you too! It's too late for me but SAVE YOURSELF! For more LOTR fun, Join The Citadel!

05-19-2003, 10:27 PM	#87
Bill Ferny Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bree Posts: 390	One Axe, You might be interested in the discussions on this forum: The Arador Library I find the Arador website very interesting, and the forum pretty informative at times (but beware, there are some gross errors both on the site and in the forum). __________________ I prefer Gillaume d’Férny, connoisseur of fine fruit.

05-28-2003, 11:29 AM	#88
One Axe to Rule them All Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Citadel Posts: 212	yes, very interesting.... __________________ Why are you reading this? Go outside, be happy, get some sunlight! You're so pasty and thin! You horrify me, GO! Get some light before they take you too! It's too late for me but SAVE YOURSELF! For more LOTR fun, Join The Citadel!

06-04-2003, 02:44 PM	#90
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	Hi Swordsters, [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I was looking through HoME 8 the other day (he said smugly) and found Denethor describing Pippin's Barrow-sword as a sax. Obviously this description didn't make the 'cut', but perhaps that was due to JRRT fearing that people would be unfamiliar with the term. As I'm sure you know, a sax was a heavy single edged short-ish sword favoured by the early Saxons (thus the name) and later used by others eg. Vikings. It was designed for cutting rather than stabbing, but I'd guess it would stab quite effectively too. here's a picture of a reconstruction of a Viking sax __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion