Elrond and Elros - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Encaitare · 08-25-2004, 09:02 AM

Okay, guys, I have one of those dumb questions that just pops up in my mind every so often... were Elrond and Elros twins? The Encyclopedia of Arda says that they were both born c.525 of the First Age, but this doesn't mean that they were indeed twins.

I ask because I wrote a fanfiction about them, and since I couldn't find anything concrete I decided Elros was going to be a couple of years older and therefore help explain his choice of mortality. In a review I just received, the person told me they were twins, and it's just been bugging me. I *must* know because if they are indeed twins, I'll change the story -- I hate being wrong! Okay, enough rambling from me... someone please help!

NightKnight · 08-25-2004, 11:31 AM

The Annals of Arda claims that they're twins too.

Boromir88 · 08-25-2004, 12:28 PM

yes, there were 2 generations of el twins..
First- Elrond and Elros
Second-Elladan and Elrohir

Encaitare · 08-25-2004, 03:44 PM

Thanks, guys! Argh... this means adjustments must be made...

Silmiel of Imladris · 08-27-2004, 06:55 PM

What I would like to know about it is if they were identical or not? Does anyone know?

Boromir88 · 08-27-2004, 09:59 PM

and now that I think about it there were 3 generations. The first being Elwing's brothers Elurin and Elured, so moving Elrond and Elros down to 2, and Elladan and Elrohir to 3.

Mithalwen · 08-28-2004, 09:18 AM

I have always assumed so..... certainly I think it says that Elladan and Elrohir were alike ...... and twins always seem identical in literature.....

Encaitare · 08-28-2004, 11:54 AM

I somehow don't see them as identical, although they probably were. Since they had to have been very much different in their attitudes towards life, perhaps their very demeanors set them apart. Let's just say you'd probably never mix them up!

rutslegolas · 08-31-2004, 01:31 AM

I too always have assumed twins as identical ,but Elrond and Elros may have been an exception I suupose.

Has Tolkein ever written about them being indentical??

Silmiel of Imladris · 09-02-2004, 08:45 PM

I also wonder if elf twins could be females for I have never seen any mention of twin females in what I have read. Anyone know? Another thing, my friend who is a twin told me that when you are a girl twin you have an 80% chance of having twins. With elves it seems to come from the male side, for Elrond was a twin and he had twins.

rutslegolas · 09-02-2004, 11:56 PM

Well it certainly seems to be that way ,I too have never heard of female elf twins in Lotr ,does anyone know about twin female elves in Lotr??

Nimrodel_9 · 09-28-2004, 03:29 PM

No, I don`t believe any of Tolkien`s books mention female Elf twins. I`m sure there were, they just didn`t do anything particularly important, so he didn`t mention them. Women play a much bigger role in The Silmarillion, LotR, ect. than in other fantasy that I have read, though.

08-25-2004, 09:02 AM	#1
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Elrond and Elros Okay, guys, I have one of those dumb questions that just pops up in my mind every so often... were Elrond and Elros twins? The Encyclopedia of Arda says that they were both born c.525 of the First Age, but this doesn't mean that they were indeed twins. I ask because I wrote a fanfiction about them, and since I couldn't find anything concrete I decided Elros was going to be a couple of years older and therefore help explain his choice of mortality. In a review I just received, the person told me they were twins, and it's just been bugging me. I must know because if they are indeed twins, I'll change the story -- I hate being wrong! Okay, enough rambling from me... someone please help!

08-25-2004, 11:31 AM	#2
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	The Annals of Arda claims that they're twins too. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

08-25-2004, 12:28 PM	#3
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,518	2 generations... yes, there were 2 generations of el twins.. First- Elrond and Elros Second-Elladan and Elrohir

08-27-2004, 06:55 PM	#5
Silmiel of Imladris Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Looking into a crystal ball- still see nothing Posts: 395	What I would like to know about it is if they were identical or not? Does anyone know? __________________ Legolas 20 ales later: I feel something, a slight tingling in my fingers. I think it's affecting me. Figwit on his name: Are you suggesting that I have the wit of a fig?

08-27-2004, 09:59 PM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,518	actually 3 generations and now that I think about it there were 3 generations. The first being Elwing's brothers Elurin and Elured, so moving Elrond and Elros down to 2, and Elladan and Elrohir to 3.

08-25-2004, 03:44 PM	#4
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Thanks, guys! Argh... this means adjustments must be made...

08-28-2004, 09:18 AM	#7
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	I have always assumed so..... certainly I think it says that Elladan and Elrohir were alike ...... and twins always seem identical in literature..... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

08-28-2004, 11:54 AM	#8
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	I somehow don't see them as identical, although they probably were. Since they had to have been very much different in their attitudes towards life, perhaps their very demeanors set them apart. Let's just say you'd probably never mix them up!

08-31-2004, 01:31 AM	#9
rutslegolas Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In Elven Lands of India Posts: 533	I too always have assumed twins as identical ,but Elrond and Elros may have been an exception I suupose. Has Tolkein ever written about them being indentical?? __________________ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with the bull - The Phantom.

09-02-2004, 08:45 PM	#10
Silmiel of Imladris Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Looking into a crystal ball- still see nothing Posts: 395	I also wonder if elf twins could be females for I have never seen any mention of twin females in what I have read. Anyone know? Another thing, my friend who is a twin told me that when you are a girl twin you have an 80% chance of having twins. With elves it seems to come from the male side, for Elrond was a twin and he had twins. __________________ Legolas 20 ales later: I feel something, a slight tingling in my fingers. I think it's affecting me. Figwit on his name: Are you suggesting that I have the wit of a fig?

09-02-2004, 11:56 PM	#11
rutslegolas Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In Elven Lands of India Posts: 533	Well it certainly seems to be that way ,I too have never heard of female elf twins in Lotr ,does anyone know about twin female elves in Lotr?? __________________ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with the bull - The Phantom.

09-28-2004, 03:29 PM	#12
Nimrodel_9 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Utah Posts: 734	No, I don`t believe any of Tolkien`s books mention female Elf twins. I`m sure there were, they just didn`t do anything particularly important, so he didn`t mention them. Women play a much bigger role in The Silmarillion, LotR, ect. than in other fantasy that I have read, though. __________________ .:A friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart:.