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03-21-2003, 07:10 AM | #1 |
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Gems from the 'Lesser Works' of JRRT
Well as we have Back to School a thread of similar variety that specializes in JRRT's more scholarly musings and opines, and the venerable The most powerful Lines of Ea and Gems from the Letters I thought I would round out the collection with a home for especially moving lines from the likes of:
I will lead off with one of the most simple but beautiful lines I think JRRT ever wrote. Context: An Elf-King coming among mortals for years for the express purpose of maintaining a spiritual ferment if you will. When Smith realizes Alf [ the humble and unimposing decades long apprentice cook of the village] is the King of the Elven land he has journeyed in for years, his comment is for me piercingly beautiful, a eucatastrophe. " The smith looked long at Alf, then suddenly he bowed low.'I understand at last , sir' he said. 'You have done us too much honour'." An elven foreshadowing of Christ in some ways. And if anyone has the Lay of Aotrou and Itroun, large healthy quotes would be great if not more [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I do belive this is completely unavailable, but I would be delighted to be proven wrong! [ March 30, 2003: Message edited by: lindil ]
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03-21-2003, 09:32 AM | #2 | ||
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lindil, what a wonderful idea! I really like several of those works and will start with the first one I read, Leaf by Niggle:
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03-21-2003, 11:32 AM | #3 |
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Uh - oh I have been a baaaaad mod. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]
I am really embarrased to admit it, but I had completely forgotten there even was a 'quotes forum'! Where is a blushing emoticon when you need it! Well hopefull no harm will be done, and it DOES round out the others, doesn't it, doesn't it...
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03-21-2003, 02:03 PM | #4 | |
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Indeed it does, lindil. Now we have a full house. My favourite 'minor work' so far has been The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth, Beorhthelm's son, from which come these lines:
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03-21-2003, 04:04 PM | #5 | |
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But the quotes forum is for quotes games my dear lindil. This wouldn't really be appropriate in there. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
The only two of those I have are Farmer Giles and Smith of Wooton Major, but this line did strike me as being quite wonderful: Quote:
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03-25-2003, 04:45 PM | #6 | |
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This passage is also from Smith of Wooten Major. It is when Smith has been summoned to the Queen and he realizes she is the maiden he danced with in the Green Vale.
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03-25-2003, 05:49 PM | #7 | |
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Yes Alaklondewen, the above scene is the match of the realization of Smith re: the King.
I always found Smith of Wooton Major to be by far the most moving and deep of the minor works and these two quotes sum much of it up. Quote:
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03-25-2003, 08:23 PM | #8 |
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I don't have a quote to post right now, but I just wanted to say that I love Smith of Wooton Major, and Roverandom, Farmer Giles of Ham, and Leaf by Niggle are really cool too. Leaf by Niggle and Smith of Wooton Major are excellent works, they have a sort of an ethereal quality, and they seem to be allegories for I know not what.
I'm still trying to figure them out, then again, I'm not sure if I want to. The mystery is half the charm of the stories. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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03-31-2003, 12:37 PM | #9 |
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...but what are they really like, or what lies beyond them, only those can tell, who have climbed them...
Niggle about mountains, but the context suggests they are not just mountains
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You are all so heavy today. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] On a lighter note...
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03-31-2003, 07:07 PM | #11 |
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ask and ye shall receive!
Now if only I can remember to ask for the one thing most needful more often... The Lay of Aotrou and Itroun - at long last. and much thanks belong to the sender [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] and due to legal reasons, I may well not leave it up for long. I also came across an essay on the Lay with an alternate ending to boot - I placed it on the same thread as linked above. [ March 31, 2003: Message edited by: lindil ]
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03-31-2003, 07:39 PM | #12 |
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Bwa ha! Kudos to you!
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04-06-2003, 11:26 AM | #13 | |
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I love this creepy little passage from The Mewlips from The Adventures of Tom Bombadil:
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Look what I found on the 3rd page! I've been meaning to revive this thread since I finally have my very own copies of The Adventures of Tom Bombadil and Leaf by Niggle.
This is from "Bombadil Goes Boating" from TAoTB: Quote:
This is from "Errantry" that is also from TAoTB: Quote:
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I just read Smith of Wooton Major and its really good! I particualry like the idea of a great cake every 24 years! Here is a nice quote I found-
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04-25-2003, 07:38 AM | #18 | |
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Errantry, I hear you say?!!
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04-27-2003, 12:53 PM | #19 | ||
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The Oxford English Dictionary is also the butt of this gem from Farmer Giles of Ham: Quote:
1: This information comes from the endnotes in the rather good edition by Christina Scull and Wayne G. Hammond (HarperCollins, 1998).
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04-27-2003, 03:40 PM | #20 | |
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From The Nameless Land (later the song of Elfwine):
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PS: lindil, thanks for the wonderful Lay of Aotrou and Itroun! PPS: Can anyone quote from Pearl and Sir Orfeo? Sadly I don't have those... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]
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I love the 'minor' works. I don't have words for how I've been moved by "Leaf by Niggle" or "Smith of Wootton Major" or how I've giggled like an idiot at the jokes in "Farmer Giles of Ham" and "Roverandom", so I'll just sigh.
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I'll leave you with a "gem" (?) from the blurb of my copy of "Tales from the Perilous Realm": Quote:
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This is another gem from The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth, which demonstrates perfectly Tolkien's use of his two characters throughout the work and the overall impression that it gives of war and warfare.
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02-08-2004, 02:14 PM | #24 | ||
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Here are two excerpts from a passage in Smith of Wootton Major, about his final visit with the Queen. When he is ashamed, remembering the little fairy that was on the cake, she says:
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(PS - We now have not only a "minor works" quote thread on the Quotes forum, we also have a "minor works trivia" thread on the Quiz forum - come and join us in discovering new tidbits and gems there!) <font size=1 color=339966>[ 3:18 PM February 08, 2004: Message edited by: Estelyn Telcontar ]
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