What the nine rings and the seven rings look like? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Ahanarion · 03-12-2002, 10:26 PM

The books say that the one is plain and unadorned the books also talk about the three but what about the seve and the nine? I imagined the seven with pearls because I remember in the Silmarillion it said that the dwarves valued pearls very highly.

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Joy · 03-12-2002, 10:33 PM

I figured that the 7 were mithril rings with some jewl set in it.

As far as the 9, I have no clue.

Keeper of Dol Guldur · 03-13-2002, 03:31 PM

Somewhere I saw the rings of the nine as they were in the movies, and they were silverish with red oval shaped gems (like the eye, a little conspicuous if you ask me).

Starbreeze · 03-13-2002, 03:34 PM

Where does it say about the Three?

Glim Iceholder · 03-13-2002, 05:14 PM

At the end of LOTR when they are departing at the Grey Havens Elrond, Galadriel, and Gandalf openly wear the 3 and it gives a short little describtion about what they look like.

Joy · 03-13-2002, 09:43 PM

Gandalf's ring was Narya, the Ring of Fire. It had a red stone. There is less description of his ring than of the others. It was given to him by Cirdan the Shipwright.

Galadriel's ring was Nenya, the Ring of Water. It was also called the Ring of Adament, which is represented by a Diamond.

Elrond's ring was Vilya, the Ring of Air. It was called the Ring of Sapphire also. It was given to him by Gil-galad.

I have read somewhere that the Elven rings Narya and Vilya were both given to Gil-galad and he then gave them away, to Cirdan and to Elrond respectivly. Then Cirdan recognizing who Gandalf was, a Maia of highest wisdom, then gave Narya to him. Could somebody correct me if I am wrong.

Ahanarion · 03-13-2002, 10:07 PM

Two of the three were given to Gil-Galad. Narya was given to Cirdan but I was under the impression Gil-Galad kept Vilya but then gave it to Elrond for safe keeping during the battle of the Last Aliance. Gil-Galad was killed and Elrond got to keep it.

Starbreeze · 03-14-2002, 03:24 PM

I really should read the books again in more detail! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Kalimac · 03-16-2002, 01:31 AM

The Elven-Rings are pretty thoroughly described; all I can remember Tolkien mentioning about the Seven and Nine (besides the fact that they are no longer accessible) is that fact of all the rings "Each had its proper gem, save only the One" so presumably the Nine and Seven all had stones of some color. Maybe they were symbolic colors like the ones of the Elven-Rings, though with the Nazgul Rings it's hard to imagine what nine different colors could have been made to symbolize (their birthstones, maybe?).

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Ahanarion · 03-16-2002, 07:35 AM

Maybe they were emeralds because the nine were made to give their bearers lordship over others after all emeralds are ten time as rare as diamonds.

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Nazgûl Queen · 03-16-2002, 04:12 PM

<center><font color="red">It may very well be so.
For my ring, Morya, is silver with and emerald, however I do not know what my brothers have. I believe that we may have has different stones, although I never actually got to see the rings of my brothers.
However I believe that the Witch-King would have had an amethyst ring as purple symbolises royalty, and the others would have rubies, sapphires, diamonds, pearls, peridots, opals and garnets.

But I honestly don't know.

Orald · 03-17-2002, 12:25 AM

The seven dwarf rings and nine for humans were probably very similar to the three elven rings. When they were first fashioned all of the rings were to be for the elves, save maybe the one given to Durin. So it could be assumed that each ring was slightly different with a gem or precious stone set in it.

03-12-2002, 10:26 PM	#1
Ahanarion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tirion upon Tuna Posts: 94	What the nine rings and the seven rings look like? The books say that the one is plain and unadorned the books also talk about the three but what about the seve and the nine? I imagined the seven with pearls because I remember in the Silmarillion it said that the dwarves valued pearls very highly. [ March 12, 2002: Message edited by: Ahanarion ] __________________ Ohtari i Noldor Hosta!

03-12-2002, 10:33 PM	#2
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	I figured that the 7 were mithril rings with some jewl set in it. As far as the 9, I have no clue. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

03-13-2002, 03:31 PM	#3
Keeper of Dol Guldur Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 315, CNY Boys and girls. Posts: 405	Somewhere I saw the rings of the nine as they were in the movies, and they were silverish with red oval shaped gems (like the eye, a little conspicuous if you ask me). __________________ "I come from yonder...Have you seen Baggins? Baggins has left, he is coming. He is not far away. I wish to find him. If he passes will you tell me? I will come back with gold." - Khamul the Easterling

03-13-2002, 03:34 PM	#4
Starbreeze Ghost of a Smile Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mirkwood - Middle Earth Posts: 389	Where does it say about the Three? __________________ Do not tamper with the affairs of wizards, they are not all that subtle - Terry Pratchett To write is to make dreams, to make dreams is to awaken the fantasy of the mind, to awaken the mind is to be a master.

03-13-2002, 09:43 PM	#6
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Gandalf's ring was Narya, the Ring of Fire. It had a red stone. There is less description of his ring than of the others. It was given to him by Cirdan the Shipwright. Galadriel's ring was Nenya, the Ring of Water. It was also called the Ring of Adament, which is represented by a Diamond. Elrond's ring was Vilya, the Ring of Air. It was called the Ring of Sapphire also. It was given to him by Gil-galad. I have read somewhere that the Elven rings Narya and Vilya were both given to Gil-galad and he then gave them away, to Cirdan and to Elrond respectivly. Then Cirdan recognizing who Gandalf was, a Maia of highest wisdom, then gave Narya to him. Could somebody correct me if I am wrong. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

03-13-2002, 05:14 PM	#5
Glim Iceholder Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 24	At the end of LOTR when they are departing at the Grey Havens Elrond, Galadriel, and Gandalf openly wear the 3 and it gives a short little describtion about what they look like.

03-13-2002, 10:07 PM	#7
Ahanarion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tirion upon Tuna Posts: 94	Two of the three were given to Gil-Galad. Narya was given to Cirdan but I was under the impression Gil-Galad kept Vilya but then gave it to Elrond for safe keeping during the battle of the Last Aliance. Gil-Galad was killed and Elrond got to keep it. __________________ Ohtari i Noldor Hosta!

03-14-2002, 03:24 PM	#8
Starbreeze Ghost of a Smile Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mirkwood - Middle Earth Posts: 389	I really should read the books again in more detail! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Do not tamper with the affairs of wizards, they are not all that subtle - Terry Pratchett To write is to make dreams, to make dreams is to awaken the fantasy of the mind, to awaken the mind is to be a master.

03-16-2002, 01:31 AM	#9
Kalimac Candle of the Marshes Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Flyover Country Posts: 780	The Elven-Rings are pretty thoroughly described; all I can remember Tolkien mentioning about the Seven and Nine (besides the fact that they are no longer accessible) is that fact of all the rings "Each had its proper gem, save only the One" so presumably the Nine and Seven all had stones of some color. Maybe they were symbolic colors like the ones of the Elven-Rings, though with the Nazgul Rings it's hard to imagine what nine different colors could have been made to symbolize (their birthstones, maybe?). [ March 16, 2002: Message edited by: Kalimac ] __________________ Father, dear Father, if you see fit, We'll send my love to college for one year yet Tie blue ribbons all about his head, To let the ladies know that he's married.

03-16-2002, 07:35 AM	#10
Ahanarion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tirion upon Tuna Posts: 94	Maybe they were emeralds because the nine were made to give their bearers lordship over others after all emeralds are ten time as rare as diamonds. [ March 16, 2002: Message edited by: Ahanarion ] __________________ Ohtari i Noldor Hosta!

03-16-2002, 04:12 PM	#11
Nazgûl Queen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 75	<center><font color="red">It may very well be so. For my ring, Morya, is silver with and emerald, however I do not know what my brothers have. I believe that we may have has different stones, although I never actually got to see the rings of my brothers. However I believe that the Witch-King would have had an amethyst ring as purple symbolises royalty, and the others would have rubies, sapphires, diamonds, pearls, peridots, opals and garnets. But I honestly don't know. __________________ - The Nazgûl they were; the Ringwraiths, the Enemy's most terribly servants; darkness went with them and they cried with the voices of death -

03-17-2002, 12:25 AM	#12
Orald Shadow of Malice Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: right behind you Posts: 843	The seven dwarf rings and nine for humans were probably very similar to the three elven rings. When they were first fashioned all of the rings were to be for the elves, save maybe the one given to Durin. So it could be assumed that each ring was slightly different with a gem or precious stone set in it.