Heads up, Minas Tirith - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Meela · 04-21-2003, 10:35 AM

I was just thinking about Rotk and I suddenly remembered that in the book the enemy catapulted the heads of the dead back into the city. It was one of my favourite moments and I was wondering if it was to be a bonus of the third movie. Do you think the movie caters for a far too young audience for this sort of viewing? I would have said yes, but I think it would have been a lovely touch. I have not heard if it is in the movie or not.

Airehiriel · 04-21-2003, 11:51 AM

Meela, I think only you would love the scene with the heads flying into the city! HAHAHA!! It would be a very interesting thing to see if they put it in though.I hadn't thought about them catering to the younger viewers. My mother won't let my 2 youngest siblings watch it. She thinks the Orcs and Nazgul would give them nightmares, and she's probably right, considering those two!

Frodo Brandybuck · 04-21-2003, 01:17 PM

That would be great! I don't think Meela would be the only one enjoying that! I kinda wish PJ would have stuck closer to the books for TTT! I hate to think what might be in ROTK!

Peri · 04-21-2003, 02:17 PM

That does sound interesting. Though if I would have seen it in the movie (and I having forgotten that this had even happened in the book) I probably would have thought that it was just one of PJ's lame attempts to make the scene more interesting to younger viewers. Knowing now that it is in the books, I'd have to say that I wouldn't mind seeing that.

Elrond Jr · 04-21-2003, 10:14 PM

Wow, I never read that part! That would be so cool! But I can say almost as a fact that PJ wont put it in. Just think about it, he has to worry about ratings. And secondly he didnt even put Glorfindel in the movie. Those kind of details arent that impronant in lotr.

Beruthiel · 04-21-2003, 10:30 PM

Those details aren't that important until rabid Barrowdowners run wild and demand to see heads being chucked into Minas Tirith... Just kidding I liked that bit as well actually, it seemed to sad and yet gruesome and cruel at the same time. They might put it in, I mean there was an orc head on a spear in TTT which was pretty gross. How bad could a few more be? Plus its probably going to be PG13 anyway.

davem · 04-22-2003, 02:04 AM

The closer the movie is to the books, the better I'll like it. Just an aside - Jane Chance in her book on LotR reckons that what Tolkien is doing in that episode is emphasising Denethor 'losing his head' by having heads hurled into the city! (of course, she does have some odd notions).

Manwe Sulimo · 04-22-2003, 08:25 AM

Perhaps, just as he is adding in more gore in the extended TTT, the extended RotK will have little bits like that. Although I don't see why we can't assume that the rocks flung by catapults will be heads....it's all about imagination.

Rynoah, the Overly-Happy · 04-22-2003, 04:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Meela, I think only you would love the scene with the heads flying into the city!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>*pouts* But... but... I love the heads flying into the city too! I'm also a very big "gore whore". I think it'd be wonderful if they added the heads bit, but it's highly doubtful, as has been mentioned. Maybe the extended version, but I doubt that as well.

Meela · 04-22-2003, 04:12 PM

HA! I'm a gore whore... I love that!

04-21-2003, 10:35 AM	#1
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	Heads up, Minas Tirith I was just thinking about Rotk and I suddenly remembered that in the book the enemy catapulted the heads of the dead back into the city. It was one of my favourite moments and I was wondering if it was to be a bonus of the third movie.<BR>Do you think the movie caters for a far too young audience for this sort of viewing? I would have said yes, but I think it would have been a lovely touch. I have not heard if it is in the movie or not. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

04-21-2003, 11:51 AM	#2
Airehiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 470	Meela, I think only you would love the scene with the heads flying into the city! HAHAHA!! It would be a very interesting thing to see if they put it in though.<P>I hadn't thought about them catering to the younger viewers. My mother won't let my 2 youngest siblings watch it. She thinks the Orcs and Nazgul would give them nightmares, and she's probably right, considering those two! __________________ Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you discover the limits of the Almighty? Job 11:7

04-21-2003, 01:17 PM	#3
Frodo Brandybuck Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Numenor Posts: 20	That would be great! I don't think Meela would be the only one enjoying that! I kinda wish PJ would have stuck closer to the books for TTT! I hate to think what might be in ROTK! __________________ I HATED how PJ screwed with Faramir. He perverted him! Faramir was a good guy and PJ made him bad!

04-21-2003, 02:17 PM	#4
Peri Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Rivendell Posts: 124	That does sound interesting. Though if I would have seen it in the movie (and I having forgotten that this had even happened in the book) I probably would have thought that it was just one of PJ's lame attempts to make the scene more interesting to younger viewers. Knowing now that it is in the books, I'd have to say that I wouldn't mind seeing that. __________________ "Ah, but I'll begowk ye there!" cried the gentleman. "Play me false, and I'll play you cunning."

04-21-2003, 10:14 PM	#5
Elrond Jr Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 25	Wow, I never read that part! That would be so cool! But I can say almost as a fact that PJ wont put it in. Just think about it, he has to worry about ratings. And secondly he didnt even put Glorfindel in the movie. Those kind of details arent that impronant in lotr. __________________ If winners never quit, and quitters never win. How did they get the phrase, "Quit while you're ahead"? Rate me, plz!

04-21-2003, 10:30 PM	#6
Beruthiel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Set adrift on the Great Sea Posts: 373	Those details aren't that important until rabid Barrowdowners run wild and demand to see heads being chucked into Minas Tirith...<BR>Just kidding <P>I liked that bit as well actually, it seemed to sad and yet gruesome and cruel at the same time. They might put it in, I mean there was an orc head on a spear in TTT which was pretty gross. How bad could a few more be? Plus its probably going to be PG13 anyway. __________________ ~I am not young enough to know everything~ Oscar Wilde

04-22-2003, 02:04 AM	#7
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	The closer the movie is to the books, the better I'll like it. Just an aside - Jane Chance in her book on LotR reckons that what Tolkien is doing in that episode is emphasising Denethor 'losing his head' by having heads hurled into the city! (of course, she does have some odd notions). __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."

04-22-2003, 08:25 AM	#8
Manwe Sulimo Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Taurelilómëa-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurëa Lómëanor Posts: 553	Perhaps, just as he is adding in more gore in the extended <I>TTT</I>, the extended <I>RotK</I> will have little bits like that. Although I don't see why we can't assume that the rocks flung by catapults will be heads....it's all about imagination. __________________ "Monkeys learn sign language so they can tell the dolphins they love them."

04-22-2003, 04:11 PM	#9
Rynoah, the Overly-Happy Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 474	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Meela, I think only you would love the scene with the heads flying into the city!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>pouts But... but... I love the heads flying into the city too! I'm also a very big "gore whore". <P>I think it'd be wonderful if they added the heads bit, but it's highly doubtful, as has been mentioned. Maybe the extended version, but I doubt that as well. __________________ Spook the spook of spookish spookdom to spook the spooked spookers. ?!?! This isn't Osgiliath! Do the wave for Boromir the Disco King! Eat squid for Boromir the Disco King!

04-22-2003, 04:12 PM	#10
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	HA! I'm a gore whore... I love that! __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.