a LOVE SCENE in THE TWO TOWERS??????? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

11-26-2002, 11:52 PM

Hey, I was wondering if any of you knew if there was an actual love scene (if Aragorn and Arwen actualy sleep together) in TTT? Please tell me if you know.

Iargwath · 11-27-2002, 01:35 AM

Its highly unlikely that the two will sleep together. It will just ruin the integrity of the book. Well if you are referring to that little section in the trailer where they are kissing here is a <A HREF="http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001246" TARGET=_blank>thread</A> that you might find useful to answer your inklings/questions

Eruwen · 11-27-2002, 09:00 AM

I read an article on Tolkien Online about it. It said Despite all of the rumors about a love scene, there will be none. Except, of course what Iargwath said. But other than that, no.

Rider of Rohan · 11-27-2002, 03:22 PM

I've read that there will not be one despite rumors. I can only hope that Peter Jackson will keep the integrity of the books and this just will be a rumor.

Arwen Imladris · 11-27-2002, 03:48 PM

Perhaps we won't know for sure what will happen until December 18th!

TealDude3 · 11-27-2002, 03:48 PM

I'm sure it will not happen. PJ knows that if he were to put a love scene in the movie he would lose money and fans.

the mortal elf · 11-27-2002, 04:54 PM

Lose money? More like lose his head! We'd be all over him within seconds after the credits were over!

Morai · 11-27-2002, 05:38 PM

Arwen will be in TTT, but without the "hanky-panky". The movie is rated PG-13! In a article about TTT in Enertainment Weekly, Liv Tyler said something about wanting to follow Aragorn and stuff. But I don't belive she spoke a word about major love scenes. In fact I think she denied it.

Knight of Gondor · 11-28-2002, 10:40 AM

After seeing a recent preview, that shows this kiss from another angle, I don't believe it is her kissing him on his death bed (he is not aged), but rather when Aragorn is brought back to Gondor (or is it Helm's Deep?) after being seriously wounded on the battlefield. It would be hard to have frisky-ness going on if he's somewhat unconscious! Plus, the movie review contains the same description as it did for FotR; Battles and scary stuff. No sex. As I said before, way to go, PJ!

-Imrahil- · 11-30-2002, 06:34 PM

Yes, I doubt there will be anything. That would totally ruin it for me. It Would be an insult to the books. And I would personally go down to Wellington myself, find PJ and punch him.[ November 30, 2002: Message edited by: -Imrahil- ]

Orual · 11-30-2002, 06:41 PM

That's right, "epic battle sequences and some scary moments." No "sex that will cause Tolkien fans to go find Peter Jackson and have some choice words with him."Though he changed Arwen's role, I think it'd probably be a cold day in the Cracks of Doom before Peter Jackson pulled a stunt like that. Some kissing, yeah, but heck, they're madly in love with each other. (True, in the book they restrained themselves, but I'm sure there was some lip-mashing going on behind the scenes. ) Anyway, that sort of thing wouldn't mesh well with Arwen's new, shiny warrior-babe persona. ~*~Orual~*~

Manwe Sulimo · 11-30-2002, 06:53 PM

What if we had Glorfindel go down and have a love scene with Aragorn? How's that for poetic justice??

MLD-Grounds-Keeper-Willie · 11-30-2002, 07:18 PM

No love scene. Its PG-13 so there wouldn't be sex. Also if there was a love scene it would be corny as hell. PJ wouldn't do that. And if he somehow does, would you wait for me -Imrahil-, I'd like to give a love scene between his face and my fist.

Nieninque · 11-30-2002, 08:21 PM

Why, do you want to see them go at it? *wince* Sorry for being so rash

Arwen Imladris · 11-30-2002, 08:39 PM

Nieninque, are you sure you really want to know?

Knight of Gondor · 11-30-2002, 08:58 PM

If PJ DID put stuff like that in the movie, we'd all buy <A HREF="http://store.barrowdowns.com/merchant.ihtml?pid=2&lastcatid=1&step=4" TARGET=_blank>Sting</A> and prod PJ until he personally edited out all the junk that he had previously filmed. Heh heh heh...

busybee · 12-01-2002, 11:12 AM

Ok not a love scene but how about a kiss between Aragorn and Eowyn Do u think they would?

the mortal elf · 12-01-2002, 01:19 PM

NO! I think that would annoy people more than a sex scene with Aragorn and Arwen! Eowyn cannot kiss him! Not only will PJ lose a few non-crucial body parts, but my high opinion of Eowyn in the books will drop subconsciously as well.

TolkienGurl · 12-01-2002, 01:45 PM

Now, now! We don't need to go threatening violence against PJ! BTW, I believe this has been discussed many times before... *hint hint*

12-01-2002, 02:18 PM

i don't they'll be one, but it would of been interesting.Allana

Durelin · 12-01-2002, 04:31 PM

KILL ARWEN!! Then we won't have to worry about it! Mwahahahahahahaha!

VanimaEdhel · 12-01-2002, 05:10 PM

Firstly, if PJ had decided to put in a love scene, I think Tolkien would go and prod him for us...Tolkien would not have wanted any love scenes in Lord of the Rings...Secondly, if PJ had decided to put in a love scene, Christopher Lee would go and help Tolkien's spirit prod him for us. Mr. Lee seems to be quite the Tolkien fan himself.Thirdly, even if sex was implied, it would still only be a PG-13 rating. There has to be nudity and descriptive sex scenes for it to be R-rated. If they, however, showed Aragorn and Arwen kiss, then go behind a curtain, then later showed them from shoulders up, apparently nude, in bed together, it would be PG-13. Fourthly, I do not think PJ would put sex in the movie. He seems to understand the general idea of the story, even if he did take Glorfindel and the like (actually, after hearing the Commentaries, I agree with more of the decisions he made and why he had to make them in the way he did). He understands the basic integrity of the piece and would not ruin it.

Morai · 12-01-2002, 07:33 PM

I can definately imagine Tolkien rising from the dead. Yeah, I'd kidnap him and force him to re-write that part of the script. (Of course I'd have some angry buddies from the Downs help me!)

11-26-2002, 11:52 PM	#1
Katrina Guest Posts: n/a	a LOVE SCENE in THE TWO TOWERS??????? Hey, I was wondering if any of you knew if there was an actual love scene (if Aragorn and Arwen actualy sleep together) in TTT?<BR>Please tell me if you know.

11-27-2002, 01:35 AM	#2
Iargwath Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 236	Its highly unlikely that the two will sleep together. It will just ruin the integrity of the book. Well if you are referring to that little section in the trailer where they are kissing here is a <A HREF="http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001246" TARGET=_blank>thread</A> that you might find useful to answer your inklings/questions __________________ 'I waited patiently for the Lord; and He inclined to me, and heard my cry'-Psalm 40 My M-e Forum

11-27-2002, 03:48 PM	#5
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Perhaps we won't know for sure what will happen until December 18th! __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

11-27-2002, 03:48 PM	#6
TealDude3 Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Bebop Posts: 138	I'm sure it will not happen. PJ knows that if he were to put a love scene in the movie he would lose money and fans. __________________ I'm so hungry, I could eat at Arby's.

11-27-2002, 04:54 PM	#7
the mortal elf Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Posts: 201	Lose money? More like lose his head! We'd be all over him within seconds after the credits were over! __________________ My imaginary friend says you have problems.

11-27-2002, 09:00 AM	#3
Eruwen Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 892	I read an article on Tolkien Online about it. It said Despite all of the rumors about a love scene, there will be none. Except, of course what Iargwath said. But other than that, no.

11-27-2002, 03:22 PM	#4
Rider of Rohan Pile O'Bones Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: IWU Posts: 14	I've read that there will not be one despite rumors. I can only hope that Peter Jackson will keep the integrity of the books and this just will be a rumor.

11-27-2002, 05:38 PM	#8
Morai Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: Where young people go to retire Posts: 709	Arwen will be in TTT, but without the "hanky-panky". The movie is rated PG-13! In a article about TTT in Enertainment Weekly, Liv Tyler said something about wanting to follow Aragorn and stuff. But I don't belive she spoke a word about major love scenes. In fact I think she denied it. __________________ "So why the safe distance, this curious look? Why tear out single pages when you can throw away the book? Why pluck one string when you can strum the guitar? MeWithoutYou http://fortyfifthparadox.com

11-28-2002, 10:40 AM	#9
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	After seeing a recent preview, that shows this kiss from another angle, I don't believe it is her kissing him on his death bed (he is not aged), but rather when Aragorn is brought back to Gondor (or is it Helm's Deep?) after being seriously wounded on the battlefield. It would be hard to have frisky-ness going on if he's somewhat unconscious! Plus, the movie review contains the same description as it did for FotR; Battles and scary stuff. No sex. As I said before, way to go, PJ! __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

11-30-2002, 06:34 PM	#10
-Imrahil- Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dol Amroth, upon the Bay of Belfalas Posts: 259	Yes, I doubt there will be anything. That would totally ruin it for me. It Would be an insult to the books. And I would personally go down to Wellington myself, find PJ and punch him.<p>[ November 30, 2002: Message edited by: -Imrahil- ] __________________ My body is broken. I go to my fathers. And even in their mighty company I shall not now be ashamed. I felled the black serpent. A grim morn, and a glad day, and a golden sunset!

11-30-2002, 06:41 PM	#11
Orual Speaker of the Dead Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Superbia Posts: 868	That's right, "epic battle sequences and some scary moments." No "sex that will cause Tolkien fans to go find Peter Jackson and have some choice words with him."<P>Though he changed Arwen's role, I think it'd probably be a cold day in the Cracks of Doom before Peter Jackson pulled a stunt like that. Some kissing, yeah, but heck, they're madly in love with each other. (True, in the book they restrained themselves, but I'm sure there was some lip-mashing going on behind the scenes. ) Anyway, that sort of thing wouldn't mesh well with Arwen's new, shiny warrior-babe persona. <P>~~Orual~~ __________________ "Oh, my god! I care so little, I almost passed out!" --Dr. Cox, "Scrubs"

11-30-2002, 06:53 PM	#12
Manwe Sulimo Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Taurelilómëa-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurëa Lómëanor Posts: 553	What if we had <I>Glorfindel</I> go down and have a love scene with Aragorn? How's <I>that</I> for poetic justice?? __________________ "Monkeys learn sign language so they can tell the dolphins they love them."

11-30-2002, 07:18 PM	#13
MLD-Grounds-Keeper-Willie Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 573	No love scene. Its PG-13 so there wouldn't be sex. Also if there was a love scene it would be corny as hell. PJ wouldn't do that. And if he somehow does, would you wait for me -Imrahil-, I'd like to give a love scene between his face and my fist. __________________ Do Not Touch -Willie

11-30-2002, 08:21 PM	#14
Nieninque Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: East Bight Posts: 67	Why, do you want to see them go at it? wince Sorry for being so rash __________________ ----- Legolas: A red sun rises in the East. Blood has been spilt this night. Aragorn: Goddamn elf's talking to himself again! I'm surrounded by weirdos...

11-30-2002, 08:39 PM	#15
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Nieninque, are you sure you <I>really</I> want to know? __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

11-30-2002, 08:58 PM	#16
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	If PJ DID put stuff like that in the movie, we'd all buy <A HREF="http://store.barrowdowns.com/merchant.ihtml?pid=2&lastcatid=1&step=4" TARGET=_blank>Sting</A> and prod PJ until he personally edited out all the junk that he had previously filmed. Heh heh heh... __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

12-01-2002, 11:12 AM	#17
busybee Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood, Lothlorien...dream...actually the middle of nowhere...Mumbai Posts: 89	Ok not a love scene but how about a kiss between Aragorn and Eowyn<BR> <BR>Do u think they would? __________________ Pleeze does anyone know of a magical doorway or something to Middle Earth!?!?

12-01-2002, 01:19 PM	#18
the mortal elf Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Posts: 201	NO! I think that would annoy people more than a sex scene with Aragorn and Arwen! Eowyn cannot kiss him! Not only will PJ lose a few non-crucial body parts, but my high opinion of Eowyn in the books will drop subconsciously as well. __________________ My imaginary friend says you have problems.

12-01-2002, 01:45 PM	#19
TolkienGurl Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 637	Now, now! We don't need to go threatening violence against PJ! BTW, I believe this has been discussed many times before... hint hint __________________ Hopes fail. An end comes. We have only a little time to wait now. We are lost in ruin and downfall and there is no escape. -Frodo My Livejournal

12-01-2002, 02:18 PM	#20
Rachael Guest Posts: n/a	i don't they'll be one, but it would of been interesting.<P>Allana

12-01-2002, 04:31 PM	#21
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	KILL ARWEN!! Then we won't have to worry about it! Mwahahahahahahaha!

12-01-2002, 05:10 PM	#22
VanimaEdhel Etheral Enchantress Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wellesley College! Posts: 1,461	Firstly, if PJ had decided to put in a love scene, I think Tolkien would go and prod him for us...Tolkien would not have wanted any love scenes in Lord of the Rings...<P>Secondly, if PJ had decided to put in a love scene, Christopher Lee would go and help Tolkien's spirit prod him for us. Mr. Lee seems to be quite the Tolkien fan himself.<P>Thirdly, even if sex was implied, it would still only be a PG-13 rating. There has to be nudity and descriptive sex scenes for it to be R-rated. If they, however, showed Aragorn and Arwen kiss, then go behind a curtain, then later showed them from shoulders up, apparently nude, in bed together, it would be PG-13. <P>Fourthly, I do not think PJ would put sex in the movie. He seems to understand the general idea of the story, even if he did take Glorfindel and the like (actually, after hearing the Commentaries, I agree with more of the decisions he made and why he had to make them in the way he did). He understands the basic integrity of the piece and would not ruin it. __________________ "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes

12-01-2002, 07:33 PM	#23
Morai Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: Where young people go to retire Posts: 709	I can definately imagine Tolkien rising from the dead. Yeah, I'd kidnap him and force him to re-write that part of the script. (Of course I'd have some angry buddies from the Downs help me!) __________________ "So why the safe distance, this curious look? Why tear out single pages when you can throw away the book? Why pluck one string when you can strum the guitar? MeWithoutYou http://fortyfifthparadox.com