Short-changed elves - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

the real findorfin · 01-31-2003, 05:13 PM

I love the way Haldir and Co. come to Helm's Deep to help the Rohirrim and what do they do. Put them on the Deeping Wall, while Theoden and his soldiers stay in the keep - Hornburg - itself. Thats gratitude for you!!

Deiagorn · 01-31-2003, 05:18 PM

Hmmnn, its a good moment, and so well done that its a sigh of relief for us all! Otherwise, myeh, I got over it. How many were those arches?

maikafanawen · 01-31-2003, 06:24 PM

Oooh goody! You guys liked when the elves came to Helms Deep. I did too!! I was gaping at the screen the whole time with my mouth open and everything! It was SPECTACULAR!! Yea ... I loved the symphonic music and the amazed Rohanians(??) and the whole majesty of the event. But then they started falling off the wall in the Battle and I was like "Hurry! If you run now you can make it back to Lothlorien!" It was disturbing. The elves got low-credit in this movie production But the Elves entrance into Helms Deep was spectacular!!

Deiagorn · 01-31-2003, 06:40 PM

LOL, no, elves shouldnt die. They are suppose to be indestructable, and the greatest source of good in the world. I like the way they were in perfect formation and didnt look right or left.But... Haldir was from Lorien, right? Or am I wrong? Yet, when he enters he says he sends word from Rivendel... hmmmnn

dunadan_aragorn · 01-31-2003, 06:41 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I was like "Hurry! If you run now you can make it back to Lothlorien <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I know! I loved the scene. I thought it was awesome. Go elves!

Vardamar · 01-31-2003, 06:46 PM

I also loved how the elves came to helms deep, but what I dont understand is that if the orc are going to kill everyone, why do those women hide in the caves I mean the least they can do is throw their frying pans and use their rollingpins as clubs

Arwen Imladris · 01-31-2003, 10:41 PM

I am very bitter about the elves at helms deep, they are not supposed to be there! Oh well, I am calm, I am calm. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> why do those women hide in the caves <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Why do women always get left out of war? Besides, it worked didn't it? The Women and children were all still safe at the end of the movie.

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-01-2003, 12:55 AM

To discuss the role of the women at Helm's Deep, please go to the <A HREF="http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001804" TARGET=_blank>don't break a nail</A> thread.

PigsnieLite · 02-01-2003, 03:11 AM

The elves arriving at Helms Deep wuz the highlight of the film for me. (That & the Smeagol scenes.) The sudden joy of Legolas & Aragorn (especially the hug), the tough professional & spectacular appearance of the elves (capes! helmets! Wooo!), Haldirs speech about the alliance & then, that wonderful Lorien march that accompanied them!Which made it that much sadder when Haldir got Orked. Sniffles.

elf_Legolas · 02-01-2003, 11:04 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> But... Haldir was from Lorien, right? Or am I wrong? Yet, when he enters he says he sends word from Rivendel... hmmmnn <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>he is from Lorien but maybe elrond was the one that decided to send the elves to Helm's Deep so......................

dunadan_aragorn · 02-02-2003, 06:39 PM

I absolutly ADORED that scene. My dad didn't like it, but hey, he read it (actuallty it was read to him) when he was tiny (stone age )

Gorwingel · 02-03-2003, 12:41 AM

It was totally not correct to Tolkien's orginal masterpeice, but it was kind of cool. I loved their outfits, and I especially loved how all the elves looked so organized, unlike the soldiers of Rohan. Though I wish they still had not brought the elves to Helm's Deep, they were not supposed to be there.

GaladrieloftheOlden · 02-03-2003, 04:59 PM

Yes, that was by far my favorite part of the movie, and I almost cry every time I see Haldir die. But just as info about the battle: when you go to see it again, listen closely to the music as Legolas skates down the stairs on a shield. Back to the Future. Hmmm...

Evenstar1069 · 02-03-2003, 06:46 PM

I was mad that PJ changed the the Helms Deep scene and made the elves come. When I get past the not correctness of it though, it was very nicely done.

the real findorfin · 02-06-2003, 06:00 AM

I love the banners they carry into Hornburg. They remind of the Elven armies in Silmarillion. All majestic and beautiful.

01-31-2003, 05:13 PM	#1
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Short-changed elves I love the way Haldir and Co. come to Helm's Deep to help the Rohirrim and what do they do. Put them on the Deeping Wall, while Theoden and his soldiers stay in the keep - Hornburg - itself. Thats gratitude for you!! __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

01-31-2003, 05:18 PM	#2
Deiagorn Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Posts: 23	Hmmnn, its a good moment, and so well done that its a sigh of relief for us all!<BR>Otherwise, myeh, I got over it. How many were those arches? __________________ ÐëÎÃGôRÑ ôf â§ëÑdÖR

01-31-2003, 06:24 PM	#3
maikafanawen Tears of Simbelmynë Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beast's Castle Posts: 705	Oooh goody! You guys <I>liked</I> when the elves came to Helms Deep. I did too!! I was gaping at the screen the whole time with my mouth open and everything! It was SPECTACULAR!! Yea ... I loved the symphonic music and the amazed Rohanians(??) and the whole majesty of the event. But then they started falling off the wall in the Battle and I was like "Hurry! If you run now you can make it back to Lothlorien!" It was disturbing. The elves got low-credit in this movie production <P>But the Elves entrance into Helms Deep was spectacular!! __________________ "They call this war a cloud over the land. But they made the weather and then they stand in the rain and say, 'Sht, it's raining!'" -- Ruby, Cold Mountain*

01-31-2003, 06:40 PM	#4
Deiagorn Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Posts: 23	LOL, no, elves shouldnt die. They are suppose to be indestructable, and the greatest source of good in the world.<BR>I like the way they were in perfect formation and didnt look right or left.<P>But... Haldir was from Lorien, right? Or am I wrong?<BR>Yet, when he enters he says he sends word from Rivendel... hmmmnn __________________ ÐëÎÃGôRÑ ôf â§ëÑdÖR

01-31-2003, 06:41 PM	#5
dunadan_aragorn Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: the bowels of Moria Posts: 105	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I was like "Hurry! If you run now you can make it back to Lothlorien <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I know! I loved the scene. I thought it was awesome. Go elves! __________________ Allia Octa Est, The Die is Cast -Julius Ceaser

01-31-2003, 06:46 PM	#6
Vardamar Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Right over Here!! No Here!! Yoohoo! Posts: 97	I also loved how the elves came to helms deep, but what I dont understand is that if the orc are going to kill everyone, why do those women hide in the caves I mean the least they can do is throw their frying pans and use their rollingpins as clubs __________________ Strength without wisdom falls by its own weight.

01-31-2003, 10:41 PM	#7
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	I am very bitter about the elves at helms deep, they are not supposed to be there! Oh well, I am calm, I am calm.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> why do those women hide in the caves <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Why do women always get left out of war? Besides, it worked didn't it? The Women and children were all still safe at the end of the movie. __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

02-01-2003, 12:55 AM	#8
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	To discuss the role of the women at Helm's Deep, please go to the <A HREF="http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001804" TARGET=_blank>don't break a nail</A> thread. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-01-2003, 03:11 AM	#9
PigsnieLite Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: london Posts: 15	The elves arriving at Helms Deep wuz the highlight of the film for me. (That & the Smeagol scenes.) The sudden joy of Legolas & Aragorn (especially the hug), the tough professional & spectacular appearance of the elves (capes! helmets! Wooo!), Haldirs speech about the alliance & then, that wonderful Lorien march that accompanied them!<P>Which made it that much sadder when Haldir got Orked. Sniffles. __________________ HALDIR LIVES!

02-01-2003, 11:04 AM	#10
elf_Legolas Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 15	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> But... Haldir was from Lorien, right? Or am I wrong?<BR>Yet, when he enters he says he sends word from Rivendel... hmmmnn <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>he is from Lorien but maybe elrond was the one that decided to send the elves to Helm's Deep so...................... __________________ When you tone big marshmellow!!

02-02-2003, 06:39 PM	#11
dunadan_aragorn Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: the bowels of Moria Posts: 105	I absolutly ADORED that scene. My dad didn't like it, but hey, he read it (actuallty it was read to him) when he was tiny (stone age ) __________________ Allia Octa Est, The Die is Cast -Julius Ceaser

02-03-2003, 12:41 AM	#12
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	It was totally not correct to Tolkien's orginal masterpeice, but it was kind of cool. I loved their outfits, and I especially loved how all the elves looked so organized, unlike the soldiers of Rohan. Though I wish they still had not brought the elves to Helm's Deep, they were not supposed to be there. __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

02-03-2003, 04:59 PM	#13
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,514	Yes, that was by far my favorite part of the movie, and I almost cry every time I see Haldir die. But just as info about the battle: when you go to see it again, listen closely to the music as Legolas skates down the stairs on a shield. Back to the Future. Hmmm... __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."

02-03-2003, 06:46 PM	#14
Evenstar1069 Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 15	I was mad that PJ changed the the Helms Deep scene and made the elves come. When I get past the not correctness of it though, it was very nicely done. __________________ Here you will dwell, bound to your grief, under the fading trees

02-06-2003, 06:00 AM	#15
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	I love the banners they carry into Hornburg. They remind of the Elven armies in Silmarillion. All majestic and beautiful. __________________ Legends of Middle Earth