PJ talks ROTK - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Gorwingel · 12-26-2002, 03:45 PM

The Chicago Sun times talked to PJ about the ROTK here is the link<A HREF="http://www.suntimes.com/output/pearlman/cst-ftr-cindy25.html" TARGET=_blank>Chicago Sun Times</A>He says, as many of you know, it is his favorite of the three movies, and additionally he is letting it go as long as it needs to be, it may be almost 3 1/2 hours long They also talk about some other things from the set

Arwen Imladris · 12-26-2002, 04:30 PM

Thanks Gorwingel! Oh, by the way, welcome to the downs.

Marileangorifurnimaluim · 12-26-2002, 04:45 PM

Yeah, better start looking forward to the next one. Because The Two Towers...

Morquesse · 12-26-2002, 08:49 PM

Three and a half (31/2) hours!? Awesome! *Dances around* But how will they get RotK in the theater? That would be too long to put in the theaters, wouldn't it? *scratches head* Anyway, thanks Gorwingel! ~M[ December 26, 2002: Message edited by: Morquesse ]

**lindil** · 12-26-2002, 09:22 PM

3 and 1/2 is not a whole lot different from 3 and 1/4. And after the major media reviews he got this time he probably feels he can get away with it.But to tell the story rightly he will need every minute he can get since he has to add Shelob and a confrontation w/ Saruman to the RotK. And I am sure the whole Battle of Pellenor Feilds will take a 1/2 - 1 hour alone.Just imagine the extended version may reach 4 hrs.

12-26-2002, 11:20 PM

the return must be long, considering the two towers early ending, no shelob, no frodo being captured... which means the return of the king is likely to be a fairly action packed flick...

Tigerlily Gamgee · 12-27-2002, 01:11 AM

It looks like I will have to have another full day of barely anything to drink before that film (as I have done with the last two). Bring it on! I will sit there as long as they want me too!

Beruthiel · 12-27-2002, 02:27 AM

ooh 3 and a half hours.... good good it has to be with shelob and all that I just can't wait!

the mortal elf · 12-27-2002, 11:57 AM

*joins in the dancing* Finally, it's going to be as long as it's worth. Did anybody else look at what Liv said? I'm just a tad disappointed, she could've been more positive. And it's hard to picture an elf saying the F word...

**lindil** · 12-27-2002, 01:27 PM

Out of all of the movies I hope that it would most live up to it's potential.If so it will be much easier to look back forgivingly on TTT and enjoy it's ludicrous departures from the story. Hopefully PJ got all of the 'my vision' c#%p out of his head for the third one.Everyting moves so fast and interconnectedly I really don't think he will have much of a chance to bothch it. Uless he has Sam dive in with the Ring.Actually he could continue to sabatoge Faramir [unlikely] do something 'creative' Denethor - actually that is my biggest fear.Botches the couring of the Shire, he may omit it altogether, which while lamentable would be understandable seeing as how little of a shire he had in FotR to scour!So we may well go straight to the havens from Minas Tirith. Perhaps via Rivendell.It would be great if we get to hear gandalf say as they pass Bree [perhaps the Hobbits can go to Bree] and G. say well I am off to see Bombadil! Even if we never see him a oneline mention would be redeeming, and perhaps the hobbits could even jest, " be careful going through the Barrow-Downs Gandalf".Then in one 10 second clip the 2 major omissions [ well not counting Gildor] from the FotR can at least be mentioned. Anyway I am rambling and Estelyn will get me![ December 27, 2002: Message edited by: lindil ]

Arwen Imladris · 02-01-2003, 12:08 PM

More spoilers! I hope this works click <A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1044081420" TARGET=_blank>here.</A>[ February 01, 2003: Message edited by: Arwen Imladris ]

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-01-2003, 12:12 PM

The article had expired, since it is over a week old. Anyone know where else I can find it?

Arwen Imladris · 02-01-2003, 12:20 PM

Sorry, it works for me. Do you want me to email or PM you the spoilers? I could just post them, but I don't want to ruin it for people.

Gorwingel · 02-01-2003, 01:53 PM

I think theOneRing.net may have had some of the details of the article in their archives, but I don't know exactly where they would be.

Diamond18 · 02-01-2003, 02:14 PM

I think Inderjit meant the Chicago Sun Times article in the first post. The spoilers work.

Angry Hill Troll · 02-01-2003, 08:11 PM

As Gandalf and the hobbits are approaching Rivendell on their return journey in ROTK...they are met on the road by a tall blond elf."Hail and well met, travelers! Welcome back to Rivendell. I am Glorfindel. Lord Elrond sends his greetings."Gandalf and the hobbits have slightly quizzical looks. Finally Sam, unable to contain himself any longer, says: "Begging your pardon sir, but I don't remember you from the last time we were here." [ February 01, 2003: Message edited by: Angry Hill Troll ]

Aratlithiel · 02-01-2003, 08:32 PM

LOL - Good one, Troll! Glorfindel then goes on to explain how Arwen kicked the crap out of him and stole his horse so she could have a bigger part in the movie. [ February 02, 2003: Message edited by: Aratlithiel ]

Angry Hill Troll · 02-01-2003, 08:47 PM

Aratlithiel,Actually there's a very funny <A HREF="http://www.thefellowship.nl/cartoon.php?id=6&section_id=0" TARGET=_blank>cartoon</A> I came across a while back on that very topic--I'm putting the link in case you or any other visitors haven't seen it.

dunadan_aragorn · 02-01-2003, 09:59 PM

hooray! we must ahve a feast to celebrate! (joins in the dancing) lalalalalalalalalalalalalala!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aratlithiel · 02-02-2003, 10:13 PM

That was great, Troll - thanks for the link. Those must be Tom Bombadil's boots sticking out of the next can over. Loved it! Sorry, I didn't notice that I gave my LOL above to Diamond instead of you. Taking it away from Diamond (sorry, dear) and giving it to Troll.[ February 02, 2003: Message edited by: Aratlithiel ]

Diamond18 · 02-02-2003, 10:30 PM

No problem, I'm just so witty and funny that everyone expects clever posts to come from me. (Imagine heavy irony in tone, I'm not being vain, just teasing. )Though I do proudly hold the title as the one who came up with the Morphin' Glorfin' doll idea (changes from Glorfindel to Arwen like those transformer toys...buy today!)Oh, right, the topic at hand. Wouldn't it be wise in the future to copy and paste articles into the post instead of links? Because so often these articles disappear after a while due to sites have different archiving policies. So then we have these tantalizing threads with links to nowhere lying about torturing people.[ February 02, 2003: Message edited by: Diamond18 ]

12-26-2002, 03:45 PM	#1
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	PJ talks ROTK The Chicago Sun times talked to PJ about the ROTK here is the link<A HREF="http://www.suntimes.com/output/pearlman/cst-ftr-cindy25.html" TARGET=_blank>Chicago Sun Times</A><P>He says, as many of you know, it is his favorite of the three movies, and additionally he is letting it go as long as it needs to be, it may be almost 3 1/2 hours long <BR>They also talk about some other things from the set __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

12-26-2002, 04:30 PM	#2
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Thanks Gorwingel! Oh, by the way, welcome to the downs. __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

12-26-2002, 04:45 PM	#3
Marileangorifurnimaluim Eerie Forest Spectre Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Buried in scrolls of fanfiction Posts: 798	Yeah, better start looking forward to the next one. Because The Two Towers... __________________ Deserves death! I daresay he does... And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them?

12-26-2002, 08:49 PM	#4
Morquesse Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Past the fields we know.... Posts: 202	Three and a half (<B>3</B>1/2) hours!? Awesome! Dances around But how will they get RotK in the theater? That would be too long to put in the theaters, wouldn't it? scratches head <BR>Anyway, thanks Gorwingel! <BR>~M<p>[ December 26, 2002: Message edited by: Morquesse ] __________________ I'm not ashamed to let you know I want this light in me to show. I'm not ashamed to speak the name of Jesus Christ.~Newsboys

12-26-2002, 09:22 PM	#5
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	3 and 1/2 is not a whole lot different from 3 and 1/4. And after the major media reviews he got this time he probably feels he can get away with it.<P>But to tell the story rightly he will need every minute he can get since he has to add Shelob and a confrontation w/ Saruman to the RotK. And I am sure the whole Battle of Pellenor Feilds will take a 1/2 - 1 hour alone.<P>Just imagine the extended version may reach 4 hrs. __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.

12-26-2002, 11:20 PM	#6
hipsuperstar Guest Posts: n/a	the return must be long, considering the two towers early ending, no shelob, no frodo being captured... which means the return of the king is likely to be a fairly action packed flick...

12-27-2002, 01:11 AM	#7
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	It looks like I will have to have another full day of barely anything to drink before that film (as I have done with the last two). Bring it on! I will sit there as long as they want me too! __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

12-27-2002, 02:27 AM	#8
Beruthiel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Set adrift on the Great Sea Posts: 373	ooh<BR>3 and a half hours.... good good<BR>it has to be with shelob and all that<BR>I just can't wait! __________________ ~I am not young enough to know everything~ Oscar Wilde

12-27-2002, 11:57 AM	#9
the mortal elf Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Posts: 201	joins in the dancing Finally, it's going to be as long as it's worth. Did anybody else look at what Liv said? I'm just a tad disappointed, she could've been more positive. And it's hard to picture an elf saying the F word... __________________ My imaginary friend says you have problems.

12-27-2002, 01:27 PM	#10
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	Out of all of the movies I hope that it would most live up to it's potential.<P>If so it will be much easier to look back forgivingly on TTT and enjoy it's ludicrous departures from the story. Hopefully PJ got all of the 'my vision' c#%p out of his head for the third one.<P>Everyting moves so fast and interconnectedly I really don't think he will have much of a chance to bothch it. Uless he has Sam dive in with the Ring.Actually he could continue to sabatoge Faramir [unlikely] do something 'creative' Denethor - actually that is my biggest fear.<P>Botches the couring of the Shire, he may omit it altogether, which while lamentable would be understandable seeing as how little of a shire he had in FotR to scour!<P>So we may well go straight to the havens from Minas Tirith. Perhaps via Rivendell.<P>It would be great if we get to hear gandalf say as they pass Bree [perhaps the Hobbits can go to Bree] and G. say well I am off to see Bombadil! Even if we never see him a oneline mention would be redeeming, and perhaps the hobbits could even jest, " be careful going through the Barrow-Downs Gandalf".<P>Then in one 10 second clip the 2 major omissions [ well not counting Gildor] from the FotR can at least be mentioned. <P>Anyway I am rambling and Estelyn will get me!<p>[ December 27, 2002: Message edited by: lindil ] __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.

02-01-2003, 12:08 PM	#11
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	More spoilers! I hope this works click <BR><A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1044081420" TARGET=_blank>here.</A><p>[ February 01, 2003: Message edited by: Arwen Imladris ] __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

02-01-2003, 12:12 PM	#12
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	The article had expired, since it is over a week old. Anyone know where else I can find it? __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-01-2003, 12:20 PM	#13
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Sorry, it works for me. Do you want me to email or PM you the spoilers? I could just post them, but I don't want to ruin it for people. __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

02-01-2003, 01:53 PM	#14
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	I think theOneRing.net may have had some of the details of the article in their archives, but I don't know exactly where they would be. __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

02-01-2003, 02:14 PM	#15
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	I think Inderjit meant the Chicago Sun Times article in the first post. The spoilers work. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

02-01-2003, 08:11 PM	#16
Angry Hill Troll Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ephel Duath Posts: 115	As Gandalf and the hobbits are approaching Rivendell on their return journey in ROTK...they are met on the road by a tall blond elf.<P>"Hail and well met, travelers! Welcome back to Rivendell. I am Glorfindel. Lord Elrond sends his greetings."<P>Gandalf and the hobbits have slightly quizzical looks. Finally Sam, unable to contain himself any longer, says:<BR>"Begging your pardon sir, but I don't remember you from the last time we were here." <p>[ February 01, 2003: Message edited by: Angry Hill Troll ]

02-01-2003, 08:32 PM	#17
Aratlithiel Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 196	LOL - Good one, Troll! Glorfindel then goes on to explain how Arwen kicked the crap out of him and stole his horse so she could have a bigger part in the movie. <p>[ February 02, 2003: Message edited by: Aratlithiel ] __________________ - I must find the Mountain of Fire and cast the thing into the gulf of Doom. Gandalf said so. I do not think I shall ever get there. - Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. - Where are we going?...And why am I in this handbasket?

02-01-2003, 08:47 PM	#18
Angry Hill Troll Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ephel Duath Posts: 115	Aratlithiel,<P>Actually there's a very funny <A HREF="http://www.thefellowship.nl/cartoon.php?id=6&section_id=0" TARGET=_blank>cartoon</A> I came across a while back on that very topic--I'm putting the link in case you or any other visitors haven't seen it.

02-01-2003, 09:59 PM	#19
dunadan_aragorn Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: the bowels of Moria Posts: 105	hooray! we must ahve a feast to celebrate! (joins in the dancing) lalalalalalalalalalalalalala!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Allia Octa Est, The Die is Cast -Julius Ceaser

02-02-2003, 10:13 PM	#20
Aratlithiel Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 196	That was great, Troll - thanks for the link. Those must be Tom Bombadil's boots sticking out of the next can over. Loved it! <P>Sorry, I didn't notice that I gave my LOL above to Diamond instead of you. Taking it away from Diamond (sorry, dear) and giving it to Troll.<p>[ February 02, 2003: Message edited by: Aratlithiel ] __________________ - I must find the Mountain of Fire and cast the thing into the gulf of Doom. Gandalf said so. I do not think I shall ever get there. - Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. - Where are we going?...And why am I in this handbasket?

02-02-2003, 10:30 PM	#21
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	No problem, I'm just so witty and funny that everyone expects clever posts to come from me. <P>(Imagine heavy irony in tone, I'm not being vain, just teasing. )<P>Though I do proudly hold the title as the one who came up with the Morphin' Glorfin' doll idea (changes from Glorfindel to Arwen like those transformer toys...buy today!)<P>Oh, right, the topic at hand. Wouldn't it be wise in the future to copy and paste articles into the post instead of links? Because so often these articles disappear after a while due to sites have different archiving policies. So then we have these tantalizing threads with links to nowhere lying about torturing people.<p>[ February 02, 2003: Message edited by: Diamond18 ] __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.