What does the TWO TOWERS symbolize?? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

01-15-2002, 10:52 PM

Hi.Is there a meaning behind the TWo Towers??

Elrian · 01-16-2002, 01:35 AM

The Towers of Orthanc (Isengard) and Baradur (Mordor)[ January 16, 2002: Message edited by: Elrian ]

Nazgûl Queen · 01-16-2002, 01:38 AM

Actually... i thought it symbolised the two towers that originally guarded Mordor: Minas Tirith "the White City of Gondor" and Minas Morgul which was overtaken by the nazgul

amyrlis · 01-16-2002, 02:09 PM

Hhmmm... I kind of thought the same thing as Nazgul Queen, but always wondered about Orthanc too. Hadn't thought about Barad-Dur as well, but that makes 4 and now I really don't know!

Eowyn of Ithilien · 01-16-2002, 02:55 PM

In a sort of after note in the Fellowship of the Ring it says that the next part is called the Two Towers because it is dominated by events in Orthanc and Minas Morgul.

Keeper of Dol Guldur · 01-16-2002, 02:55 PM

I'd say Orthanc and Minas Morgul-the two towers that were seen in the book by the characters, and under lead by the two beings most influenced to evil by Sauron and most powerful (even though Saruman wasn't under Sauron's dominion, he was influenced through the Palantir-which also is a good point, Orthanc had a Palantir that still exsisted and Morgul still probably had one-I think that is where Sauron got his.

Elrian · 01-16-2002, 04:39 PM

I didn't figure Minus Morgul since it was a fortress and not a tower, but my book says the same as yours.

Elendur · 01-16-2002, 05:29 PM

It means Barad-Dur and Isengard. They housed the two main enemys of the Quest.

Nazgûl Queen · 01-16-2002, 06:43 PM

<center> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Elrian: I didn't figure Minus Morgul since it was a fortress and not a tower<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>True.... then again, Barad Dur is also more of a fortress than a tower IMO

SlinkerStinker · 01-17-2002, 03:37 AM

***Opens The Fellowship of the Rings book to the last page (It's the one that says THE END on it)***Reads aloud: "Here ends the first part of the history of the War of the Ring. The second part is called The Two Towers, since the events recounted in it are dominated by Orthanc, the citadel of Saruman, and the fortress of Minas Morgul that guards the secret entrance to Mordor;"

amyrlis · 01-17-2002, 01:29 PM

I think that solves it! Thanks SlinkerStinker! I should pay more attention to my books next time.

Dûrkriswen · 01-17-2002, 06:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Nazgûl Queen: Actually... i thought it symbolised the two towers that originally guarded Mordor: Minas Tirith "the White City of Gondor" and Minas Morgul which was overtaken by the nazgul<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think this is true because these two towers were most talked about in that book. i.e. Frodo near Minis Tirith with Faramir, Frodo going past Minas Morgul to get to Cirith Ungul.Sauron's tower didn't realy play that big a part in the second book.

Elrian · 01-17-2002, 07:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>True.... then again, Barad Dur is also more of a fortress than a tower IMO <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Barad-dur is also called the Dark Tower. See glossary in the Silmarillion.

01-15-2002, 10:52 PM	#1
archangel00 Guest Posts: n/a	What does the TWO TOWERS symbolize?? Hi.<P>Is there a meaning behind the TWo Towers??

01-16-2002, 01:35 AM	#2
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	The Towers of Orthanc (Isengard) and Baradur (Mordor)<p>[ January 16, 2002: Message edited by: Elrian ] __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

01-16-2002, 01:38 AM	#3
Nazgûl Queen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 75	Actually... i thought it symbolised the two towers that originally guarded Mordor: Minas Tirith "the White City of Gondor" and Minas Morgul which was overtaken by the nazgul __________________ - The Nazgûl they were; the Ringwraiths, the Enemy's most terribly servants; darkness went with them and they cried with the voices of death -

01-16-2002, 02:09 PM	#4
amyrlis Wight Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Helcaraxe Posts: 210	Hhmmm... I kind of thought the same thing as Nazgul Queen, but always wondered about Orthanc too. Hadn't thought about Barad-Dur as well, but that makes 4 and now I really don't know! __________________ "Pull the blinders from my eyes, let me see these endless skies And drown here where I stand in the beauty of the land."

01-16-2002, 02:55 PM	#5
Eowyn of Ithilien Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 277	In a sort of after note in the Fellowship of the Ring it says that the next part is called the Two Towers because it is dominated by events in Orthanc and Minas Morgul. __________________ But of bliss and glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song.

01-16-2002, 02:55 PM	#6
Keeper of Dol Guldur Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 315, CNY Boys and girls. Posts: 405	I'd say Orthanc and Minas Morgul-the two towers that were seen in the book by the characters, and under lead by the two beings most influenced to evil by Sauron and most powerful (even though Saruman wasn't under Sauron's dominion, he was influenced through the Palantir-which also is a good point, Orthanc had a Palantir that still exsisted and Morgul still probably had one-I think that is where Sauron got his. __________________ "I come from yonder...Have you seen Baggins? Baggins has left, he is coming. He is not far away. I wish to find him. If he passes will you tell me? I will come back with gold." - Khamul the Easterling

01-16-2002, 04:39 PM	#7
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	I didn't figure Minus Morgul since it was a fortress and not a tower, but my book says the same as yours. __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

01-16-2002, 05:29 PM	#8
Elendur Wight Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Arnor Posts: 200	It means Barad-Dur and Isengard. They housed the two main enemys of the Quest. __________________ Son of Isildur.

01-16-2002, 06:43 PM	#9
Nazgûl Queen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 75	<center> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Elrian:<BR><STRONG>I didn't figure Minus Morgul since it was a fortress and not a tower</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>True.... then again, Barad Dur is also more of a fortress than a tower IMO __________________ - The Nazgûl they were; the Ringwraiths, the Enemy's most terribly servants; darkness went with them and they cried with the voices of death -

01-17-2002, 03:37 AM	#10
SlinkerStinker Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 12	*Opens The Fellowship of the Rings book to the last page (It's the one that says THE END on it)*<P>Reads aloud: <P>"Here ends the first part of the history of the War of the Ring. The second part is called The Two Towers, since the events recounted in it are dominated by Orthanc, the citadel of Saruman, and the fortress of Minas Morgul that guards the secret entrance to Mordor;"

01-17-2002, 01:29 PM	#11
amyrlis Wight Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Helcaraxe Posts: 210	I think that solves it! Thanks SlinkerStinker! I should pay more attention to my books next time. __________________ "Pull the blinders from my eyes, let me see these endless skies And drown here where I stand in the beauty of the land."

01-17-2002, 06:55 PM	#12
Dûrkriswen Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 12	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Nazgûl Queen:<BR><STRONG>Actually... i thought it symbolised the two towers that originally guarded Mordor: Minas Tirith "the White City of Gondor" and Minas Morgul which was overtaken by the nazgul</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I think this is true because these two towers were most talked about in that book. <P>i.e. Frodo near Minis Tirith with Faramir, Frodo going past Minas Morgul to get to Cirith Ungul.<P>Sauron's tower didn't realy play that big a part in the second book. __________________ http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...2320898899.jpg

01-17-2002, 07:10 PM	#13
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>True.... then again, Barad Dur is also more of a fortress than a tower IMO <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Barad-dur is also called the Dark Tower. See glossary in the Silmarillion. __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~