birth of uruk-hai in fire pits... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

01-10-2002, 09:38 AM

In the movie, it appeared to me that the uruk orcs were being birthed in some type of lava/fire mixture - and were born fully grown.<P>Could someone explain what that was? Is there any indication in the books that would clear this up?

Enkanowen · 01-10-2002, 10:46 AM

from what i heard, saw and read, I believe the Uruk-Hai are a magickal crossing of Orcs, Goblins and Men or just Orcs and Goblins. Saruman cannot create life but he can spoil it, I would believe it's a magickal crossing of the two. As for them being born grown-up... what good does it do to have to RAISE a bunch of baby uruk-hai to be soldiers, when you need them RIGHT NOW. So, I assume that this process was also sped up by Saruman's magic

01-10-2002, 11:15 AM

Todd:<BR> To my knowledge, the Uruk-Hai of the LOTR are somewhat of a mystery. The only thing that seems to be known for sure is that they are "...half-orcs and goblin-men that the foul craft of saruman has bred...".

zifnab · 01-10-2002, 11:55 AM

I think that the Uruk-Hai(Isengarder I believe) were more powerful then normal orcs say the ones up North(Lugburz). I really dont know this for sure, but their is a good chapter in TTT "The Uruk-Hai", that the two "breeds" work togehter.<BR>I dont know if the books go into detail about how the Uruk-Hai were born/made, I cant think of any. but Saruman created them to be in his army in his attempt to capture the ring before Sauron.

Elrian · 01-11-2002, 01:05 AM

I didn't see them come out of lava and fire, it looked more like grey/blue goo to me. Spawned in mud? Magical mud.

01-10-2002, 09:38 AM	#1
t_l_a_w Guest Posts: n/a	birth of uruk-hai in fire pits... In the movie, it appeared to me that the uruk orcs were being birthed in some type of lava/fire mixture - and were born fully grown.<P>Could someone explain what that was? Is there any indication in the books that would clear this up?

01-10-2002, 11:55 AM	#4
zifnab Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: omni-presence Posts: 329	I think that the Uruk-Hai(Isengarder I believe) were more powerful then normal orcs say the ones up North(Lugburz). I really dont know this for sure, but their is a good chapter in TTT "The Uruk-Hai", that the two "breeds" work togehter.<BR>I dont know if the books go into detail about how the Uruk-Hai were born/made, I cant think of any. but Saruman created them to be in his army in his attempt to capture the ring before Sauron. __________________ Facebook.

01-11-2002, 01:05 AM	#5
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	I didn't see them come out of lava and fire, it looked more like grey/blue goo to me. Spawned in mud? Magical mud. __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

01-10-2002, 10:46 AM	#2
Enkanowen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 53	from what i heard, saw and read, I believe the Uruk-Hai are a magickal crossing of Orcs, Goblins and Men or just Orcs and Goblins. Saruman cannot create life but he can spoil it, I would believe it's a magickal crossing of the two. As for them being born grown-up... what good does it do to have to RAISE a bunch of baby uruk-hai to be soldiers, when you need them RIGHT NOW. So, I assume that this process was also sped up by Saruman's magic

01-10-2002, 11:15 AM	#3
rHUDLADION Guest Posts: n/a	Todd:<BR> To my knowledge, the Uruk-Hai of the LOTR are somewhat of a mystery. The only thing that seems to be known for sure is that they are "...half-orcs and goblin-men that the foul craft of saruman has bred...".