What is the worst thing that could go wrong - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Evenspire · 07-05-2001, 06:05 PM

My thoughts. Some can't wait for the movie to "get here". Some don't want to go at all. What would be the worst scenario?

GandaIf The White · 07-05-2001, 08:35 PM

New Line could decide not to air The Two Towers and The Return of The King because Fellowship of the Ring was such a bomb.. Wouldnt that suck. "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."

Maglor68 · 07-09-2001, 07:52 AM

Worst thing ...l I had something similar in mind ... What if after TT the only print of ROTK is misplaced before it can be duped for the theaters?

07-10-2001, 10:32 AM

Merchandising scares me... over exposure... Sauron Lunch Boxes and Balrog Happy Meals...

Samwise of the shire · 07-18-2001, 05:06 PM

Too late dude, Burger King signed this thing with New Line and well lets just say that it has to do with finding cute little Frodo figures in the Big Kids Meal,That is a scary thought, my little sister comes home from Mcdonalds and there in her hand is a figurine of Pippin or the balrog, Yikes it's giving me nightmares *shudders*. But I dont want to see all these crappy scandlous things about the movies in those really cheesy mags you see in the store.Now that just gives me the shivers, I dont like people doing that, What do they know?And their always changing their ideas and stuff, oooooh it makes me mad. Hey some good news, I saw the first LOTR movie T shirt!!and I thought it was cool, but it was a guys t shirt so, phhhhhpppphhhhtttt Sammy Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons. For you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

SteadfastSam · 07-23-2001, 07:25 PM

If they turn this movie into feminist trash or anything bad or a horror movie I will hunt PJ down and [removed by moderator] him with a [removed by moderator]. "I will, Lord." said Tuor.

Samwise of the shire · 07-23-2001, 07:30 PM

Whoa Sam swears now I've seen everything Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons. For you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Helkahothion · 11-07-2002, 09:58 AM

The worsth Scenario is that due cash shortige they are not going to make Rotk
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Diamond18 · 11-07-2002, 11:33 AM

They already made RotK.The worst case scenario would be to kill a character that doesn't die in the book. (This was done to La Beouf in True Grit). But, of course, that is not going to happen. I'm just saying, that's the worst that could happen. Could, but won't.

Birdland · 11-07-2002, 11:08 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The worst case scenario would be to kill a character that doesn't die in the book.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Worst case scenario achieved. Someone dies in the movie that doesn't die in the book. Shall we tell those who do not know yet?...hmmmmmm...Nah, let 'em twist in the wind.

Arwen1858 · 11-07-2002, 11:17 PM

If they had Aragorn kiss Eowyn! I would then hunt down PJ..... Or if somebody died before their time, or if they had somebody other than Eowyn and Merry fighting the witch king. That wouldn't be right. I'm sure there are more things, but I'll think of those later. Arwen

nerddogs · 11-08-2002, 04:33 PM

Worst Thing: They end the movie when the ring is destoryed and leave out the looting of the Shire and cut where Bilbo and Frodo leave Middle Earth. Oh yeah and not put my favorite quote: "Well, I'm back.", for the very last line in the movie.[ November 08, 2002: Message edited by: nerddogs ][ November 08, 2002: Message edited by: nerddogs ]

TealDude3 · 11-08-2002, 05:57 PM

I have two worst-case senerios.#1: They dicide to give ROTK an R-rating foe extreme violence and nudity.(Ok, I don't know where they could stick nudity into ROTK, but hey, it is a worst case senerio.#2: Gollum takes of a mask and turns out to be Boromir. That would be screwed up.

Azaelia of Willowbottom · 11-08-2002, 07:32 PM

The worst thing that could happen is that I will lose the cap to my water bottle and have to drink it all, then have to go to the bathroom really bad, finally get desperate and waste a good 15 minutes trying (and failing)to find it and miss all that time of a wonderful movie! (Which already happened to me once during Fellowship) (What can I say? I'm a hobbit: We're an optimistic lot!)Cheer up, all of you! TTT is going to be wonderful!!! [ November 08, 2002: Message edited by: Azaelia of Willowbottom ]

Morquesse · 11-08-2002, 08:30 PM

#1 They cut out the Houses of Healing and make Eowyn look like an invincible person like in the cartoon RotK.#2 Give Frodo a girl friend. Spoiler:#3Have Frodo actually die from Shelob's bit. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> The worst case scenario would be to kill a character that doesn't die in the book. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Worst case scenario achieved. Someone dies in the movie that doesn't die in the book. Shall we tell those who do not know yet?...hmmmmmm...Nah, let 'em twist in the wind. -------------------- <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Goodness! I hope you only mean (possibly anyway)Saruman! (in TTT) See you later, ~M

Orodoliel · 11-09-2002, 12:30 PM

I think the worst thing would be if the standard of the Movies suddenly went down after FotR. But that isn't likely to happen.

Helkasir · 11-09-2002, 01:20 PM

the worst thing I could see happening is having sauron take physical form again.

Dimaldaeon · 11-09-2002, 02:11 PM

The worst thing would be if the replaced a really great character like Glorfindel with a crap character like Arwen. Oh wait they did that already.I'll try again. The worst thing would be if they cut out a character that we all love like say Tom Bombadil. Oh waith they did that already.Ok then the worst thing would be if they changed the plot greatly by say having Eowyn lead the Rohirrim women and children to Helms Deep. Oh wait they did that already aswell.[ November 09, 2002: Message edited by: Dimaldaeon ]

TealDude3 · 11-09-2002, 02:24 PM

Dimaldaeon, a movie needs different ways of telling a story than a book. I mean, if you went to the movies and saw the exact same thing that the book was, you would be a little upset and disappionted.

Diamond18 · 11-09-2002, 03:35 PM

I remember coming across a post in a thread that was really hilarious...it was a really, truly awful speculation on the terrible ways to butcher LotR for movie purposes. I can't remember if it was in Movies or Mayhem, or who posted it, or anything else! But I'm going to start looking for it and I'll post it here if I find it. But if you know what I'm talking about maybe you remember where it was and can find it faster.

LePetitChoux · 11-09-2002, 04:08 PM

WHO DIES? WHO WHO WHO?????????? I'm not very good with cliffhangers.

Diamond18 · 11-09-2002, 05:22 PM

Well I give up, I can't find it. Too bad, it would have been perfect in this thread. I can only remember that it somehow involved Aragorn having a fling with Eowyn while Arwen leads the Grey Company through the Paths of the Dead and defeats the Corsairs of Umbar, and after the War of the Ring Pippin opens a bar in Ithillien and Merry becomes an alcoholic. (There was lot more about the other characters, but I can't remember it.)It might not have been as funny as I remembered it, but it really tickled my funny bone. It was total exaggeration.Argh, I just cannnot stand vague memories. They drive me crazy.

Kalimac · 11-09-2002, 07:45 PM

Ooh, so many bad things that could happen (I'm speculating on these comfortably since judging by the first movie, we can be pretty sure that PJ won't actually *do* any of these).- Eowyn insists on accompanying Aragorn on the Paths of the Dead.- Arwen tells Aragorn that she doesn't mind having an open relationship.- Arwen fights at Helm's Deep disguised as a man. (Way to steal Eowyn's thunder, there). - A sister is invented for Faramir and Boromir so that Eomer can get married off to someone in the end (just to fulfill the comic-opera convention that everyone with a speaking part has to get paired off at the end). - A kinder, gentler Denethor takes a loving farewell of the ill Faramir, sends the best doctors to attend him, then goes off to the tombs to incinerate himself in private and alone. - Poor old Faramir is dropped from the storyline altogether (like in the ROTK cartoon) and Eowyn finds consolation with Gandalf. - Merry and Pippin cower in fear and run away before the Witch-King and Denethor respectively, still the same laughable morons they were in FOTR.- Gollum repents at the end and throws the Ring into the fire sans self, only to be tragically killed by hot lava a few moments later (well, really, even if he's redeemed you can't have Frodo bringing him home to Bag End, can you?)- Legolas meets a She-Elf- Gimli meets a female Dwarf (though it would resolve that longstanding question of whether or not women dwarves had beards).And of course- Frodo decides that he's OK, really, and stays in the Shire. The scene at the Grey Havens consists of the four hobbits waving goodbye to Gandalf and Galadriel.[ November 09, 2002: Message edited by: Kalimac ]

Rose Cotton · 11-10-2002, 03:45 PM

I think that the FotR turned out great and that the next two movies will be even better. However, just for fun I'd like to say what I think are the worst things that could happen.1. After all this hype at how cool Gollum looks in the previews it turns out he looks totally unbelivable most of the time.2. Faramir becomes another Boromir and Frodo and Sam must escape from him with Gollum before he takes the ring.3. Dead hands reach out of the water in the dead marshes and try to drag Frodo and Sam down.4. All of Sam and Gollum's "taters" conversation is cut out.5. Eowyn stays home like a good little girl and never goes to battle.6. Denethor turns out to be a kind loving father who would never go near fire. or 7. Denethor does try to set Faramir and himself on fire and Pippin decides it's none of his buisness.That's all I can think of for now...

VanimaEdhel · 11-10-2002, 04:36 PM

Don't they have Saruman die in TTT? Or were they just considering it?And, if they stuck sex and/or nudity, I think that Tolkien would rise from the grave and kill PJ himself, saving you guys the effort...I thought one of the worst things so far was them taking Glorfindel out all together...well: and Tom Bombadil...

Diamond18 · 11-10-2002, 04:45 PM

I guess I wouldn't mind Saruman dying in TTT. Since they are omitting the Scouring of the Shire, there is nothing left for him to do in RotK. They would have to create a bunch of stuff for him to do before the destruction of the Ring, and I'd rather see him die prematurly than take up movie time doing stuff he never did. It'd kind of be like Arwen and all that she does, except that Saruman isn't as palatable to look upon. (And really, what they did with Arwen was substiution...for Saruman they would literally have to create scenarios for him from scratch).I'd like the Scouring of the Shire to be in there, of course, but if it isn't going to be in there, Saruman shouldn't be in there either.So now I guess the worst that could happen (or one of, that is) would be to waste time creating baddie stuff for Saruman to do in RotK. If they are going to kill him in TTT it better be something good...though nothing leaps to mind...Hmm, maybe I should start a thread, "How would you kill Saruman if you had to do it differently than the book." What do you think? Would everyone just jump on me an scream "You shouldn't HAVE to change the book!"?

Arwen1858 · 11-10-2002, 11:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Hmm, maybe I should start a thread, "How would you kill Saruman if you had to do it differently than the book." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Sounds like the makings of a good thread to me!!

11-16-2002, 02:21 PM

The worst that could happen would that PJ would kill off Frodo and Sam, and an angry mob would come to his house, burn it down, and PJ refuses to release ROTK.

07-10-2001, 10:32 AM	#4
Ring Lord Rules Guest Posts: n/a	<BR><br><br> Merchandising scares me... over exposure... Sauron Lunch Boxes and Balrog Happy Meals... <p></p>

07-18-2001, 05:06 PM	#5
Samwise of the shire Wight Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 152	<BR><br><br> Too late dude, Burger King signed this thing with New Line and well lets just say that it has to do with finding cute little Frodo figures in the Big Kids Meal,That is a scary thought, my little sister comes home from Mcdonalds and there in her hand is a figurine of Pippin or the balrog, Yikes it's giving me nightmares shudders. But I dont want to see all these crappy scandlous things about the movies in those really cheesy mags you see in the store.Now that just gives me the shivers, I dont like people doing that, What do they know?And their always changing their ideas and stuff, oooooh it makes me mad.<br> Hey some good news, I saw the first LOTR movie T shirt!!and I thought it was cool, but it was a guys t shirt so, phhhhhpppphhhhtttt <br> Sammy <p> Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons. For you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.</p>

07-23-2001, 07:25 PM	#6
SteadfastSam Seeker of Light Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 503	<BR><br><br> If they turn this movie into feminist trash or anything bad or a horror movie I will hunt PJ down and [removed by moderator] him with a [removed by moderator]. <p>"I will, Lord." said Tuor.</p>

07-23-2001, 07:30 PM	#7
Samwise of the shire Wight Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 152	<BR>Whoa</b><br><br> Sam swears now I've seen everything <p> Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons. For you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.</p>

11-07-2002, 09:58 AM	#8
Helkahothion Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The inside of Legolas' lungs Posts: 1,005	The worsth Scenario is that due cash shortige they are not going to make Rotk ________ Medical marijuana strains Last edited by Helkahothion; 03-07-2011 at 03:52 AM.

07-05-2001, 06:05 PM	#1
Evenspire Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 78	What is the worst thing that could go wrong <BR>My thoughts. Some can't wait for the movie to "get here". Some don't want to go at all. What would be the worst scenario? <p></p>

07-05-2001, 08:35 PM	#2
GandaIf The White Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 267	<BR><br><br> New Line could decide not to air The Two Towers and The Return of The King because Fellowship of the Ring was such a bomb.. Wouldnt that suck. <p>"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."</p>

07-09-2001, 07:52 AM	#3
Maglor68 Wight Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 112	<BR>Worst thing ...l</b><br><br> I had something similar in mind ...<br> <br> What if after TT the only print of ROTK is misplaced before it can be duped for the theaters? <p></p>

11-07-2002, 11:33 AM	#9
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	They already made RotK.<P>The worst case scenario would be to kill a character that doesn't die in the book. (This was done to La Beouf in True Grit). But, of course, that is not going to happen. I'm just saying, that's the worst that could happen. Could, but won't. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

11-07-2002, 11:08 PM	#10
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The worst case scenario would be to kill a character that doesn't die in the book.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Worst case scenario achieved. Someone dies in the movie that doesn't die in the book. Shall we tell those who do not know yet?...hmmmmmm...Nah, let 'em twist in the wind.

11-07-2002, 11:17 PM	#11
Arwen1858 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gondor Posts: 516	If they had Aragorn kiss Eowyn! I would then hunt down PJ..... Or if somebody died before their time, or if they had somebody other than Eowyn and Merry fighting the witch king. That wouldn't be right. I'm sure there are more things, but I'll think of those later.<BR>Arwen __________________ Will Turner: "This is either madness or brilliance." Jack Sparrow: "It's remarkable how often those two traits coincide." ~ Pirates of the Caribbean

11-08-2002, 04:33 PM	#12
nerddogs Pile O'Bones Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sooner State Posts: 12	Worst Thing: They end the movie when the ring is destoryed and leave out the looting of the Shire and cut where Bilbo and Frodo leave Middle Earth. Oh yeah and not put my favorite quote: "Well, I'm back.", for the very last line in the movie.<P>[ November 08, 2002: Message edited by: nerddogs ]<p>[ November 08, 2002: Message edited by: nerddogs ]

11-08-2002, 05:57 PM	#13
TealDude3 Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Bebop Posts: 138	I have two worst-case senerios.<P>#1: They dicide to give ROTK an R-rating foe extreme violence and nudity.(Ok, I don't know where they could stick nudity into ROTK, but hey, it is a worst case senerio.<P>#2: Gollum takes of a mask and turns out to be Boromir. That would be screwed up. __________________ I'm so hungry, I could eat at Arby's.

11-08-2002, 07:32 PM	#14
Azaelia of Willowbottom Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: By the Sea Posts: 446	The worst thing that could happen is that I will lose the cap to my water bottle and have to drink it all, then have to go to the bathroom really bad, finally get desperate and waste a good 15 minutes trying (and failing)to find it and miss all that time of a wonderful movie! (Which already happened to me once during Fellowship) (What can I say? I'm a hobbit: We're an optimistic lot!)<P>Cheer up, all of you! TTT is going to be wonderful!!! <p>[ November 08, 2002: Message edited by: Azaelia of Willowbottom ] __________________ "Wherever I have been, I am back."

11-08-2002, 08:30 PM	#15
Morquesse Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Past the fields we know.... Posts: 202	#1 They cut out the Houses of Healing and make Eowyn look like an invincible person like in the cartoon RotK.<P>#2 Give Frodo a girl friend. <BR>Spoiler:<P>#3Have Frodo actually die from Shelob's bit.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> The worst case scenario would be to kill a character that doesn't die in the book.<BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<P><BR>Worst case scenario achieved. Someone dies in the movie that doesn't die in the book. Shall we tell those who do not know yet?...hmmmmmm...Nah, let 'em twist in the wind. <BR>--------------------<P> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Goodness! I hope you only mean (possibly anyway)Saruman! (in TTT) <BR>See you later,<BR>~M __________________ I'm not ashamed to let you know I want this light in me to show. I'm not ashamed to speak the name of Jesus Christ.~Newsboys

11-09-2002, 12:30 PM	#16
Orodoliel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rivendell Posts: 61	I think the worst thing would be if the standard of the Movies suddenly went down after FotR. But that isn't likely to happen. __________________ "Well, I'm back."

11-09-2002, 01:20 PM	#17
Helkasir Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Iron Hills Posts: 89	the worst thing I could see happening is having sauron take physical form again. __________________ "Onen i-Estal Edain, u-chebin estel anim."

11-09-2002, 02:11 PM	#18
Dimaldaeon Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ireland & damn proud of it. Posts: 125	The worst thing would be if the replaced a really great character like Glorfindel with a crap character like Arwen. Oh wait they did that already.<P>I'll try again. The worst thing would be if they cut out a character that we all love like say Tom Bombadil. Oh waith they did that already.<P>Ok then the worst thing would be if they changed the plot greatly by say having Eowyn lead the Rohirrim women and children to Helms Deep. Oh wait they did that already aswell.<p>[ November 09, 2002: Message edited by: Dimaldaeon ] __________________ Dear Saddam, Do not disunderestimate me.Yours G.W.Bush You're not drunk if you can still hold onto a blade of grass to stop yourself from falling off the face of the Earth

11-09-2002, 02:24 PM	#19
TealDude3 Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Bebop Posts: 138	Dimaldaeon, a movie needs different ways of telling a story than a book. I mean, if you went to the movies and saw the exact same thing that the book was, you would be a little upset and disappionted. __________________ I'm so hungry, I could eat at Arby's.

11-09-2002, 03:35 PM	#20
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	I remember coming across a post in a thread that was really hilarious...it was a really, truly awful speculation on the terrible ways to butcher LotR for movie purposes. I can't remember if it was in Movies or Mayhem, or who posted it, or anything else! But I'm going to start looking for it and I'll post it here if I find it. But if you know what I'm talking about maybe you remember where it was and can find it faster. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

11-09-2002, 04:08 PM	#21
LePetitChoux Vegetable of Doom Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Posts: 720	WHO DIES? WHO WHO WHO?????????? I'm not very good with cliffhangers. __________________ je suis une bonne odeur

11-09-2002, 05:22 PM	#22
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Well I give up, I can't find it. Too bad, it would have been perfect in this thread. I can only remember that it somehow involved Aragorn having a fling with Eowyn while Arwen leads the Grey Company through the Paths of the Dead and defeats the Corsairs of Umbar, and after the War of the Ring Pippin opens a bar in Ithillien and Merry becomes an alcoholic. (There was lot more about the other characters, but I can't remember it.)<P>It might not have been as funny as I remembered it, but it really tickled my funny bone. It was total exaggeration.<P>Argh, I just cannnot stand vague memories. They drive me crazy. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

11-09-2002, 07:45 PM	#23
Kalimac Candle of the Marshes Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Flyover Country Posts: 780	Ooh, so many bad things that could happen (I'm speculating on these comfortably since judging by the first movie, we can be pretty sure that PJ won't actually do any of these).<P>- Eowyn insists on accompanying Aragorn on the Paths of the Dead.<P>- Arwen tells Aragorn that she doesn't mind having an open relationship.<P>- Arwen fights at Helm's Deep disguised as a man. (Way to steal Eowyn's thunder, there). <P>- A sister is invented for Faramir and Boromir so that Eomer can get married off to someone in the end (just to fulfill the comic-opera convention that everyone with a speaking part has to get paired off at the end). <P>- A kinder, gentler Denethor takes a loving farewell of the ill Faramir, sends the best doctors to attend him, then goes off to the tombs to incinerate himself in private and alone. <P>- Poor old Faramir is dropped from the storyline altogether (like in the ROTK cartoon) and Eowyn finds consolation with Gandalf. <P>- Merry and Pippin cower in fear and run away before the Witch-King and Denethor respectively, still the same laughable morons they were in FOTR.<P>- Gollum repents at the end and throws the Ring into the fire sans self, only to be tragically killed by hot lava a few moments later (well, really, even if he's redeemed you can't have Frodo bringing him home to Bag End, can you?)<P>- Legolas meets a She-Elf<P>- Gimli meets a female Dwarf (though it would resolve that longstanding question of whether or not women dwarves had beards).<P>And of course<P>- Frodo decides that he's OK, really, and stays in the Shire. The scene at the Grey Havens consists of the four hobbits waving goodbye to Gandalf and Galadriel.<p>[ November 09, 2002: Message edited by: Kalimac ] __________________ Father, dear Father, if you see fit, We'll send my love to college for one year yet Tie blue ribbons all about his head, To let the ladies know that he's married.

11-10-2002, 03:45 PM	#24
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	I think that the FotR turned out great and that the next two movies will be even better. However, just for fun I'd like to say what I think are the worst things that could happen.<P>1. After all this hype at how cool Gollum looks in the previews it turns out he looks totally unbelivable most of the time.<P>2. Faramir becomes another Boromir and Frodo and Sam must escape from him with Gollum before he takes the ring.<P>3. Dead hands reach out of the water in the dead marshes and try to drag Frodo and Sam down.<P>4. All of Sam and Gollum's "taters" conversation is cut out.<P>5. Eowyn stays home like a good little girl and never goes to battle.<P>6. Denethor turns out to be a kind loving father who would never go near fire.<BR> or<BR>7. Denethor does try to set Faramir and himself on fire and Pippin decides it's none of his buisness.<P>That's all I can think of for now... __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

11-10-2002, 04:36 PM	#25
VanimaEdhel Etheral Enchantress Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wellesley College! Posts: 1,461	Don't they have Saruman die in TTT? Or were they just considering it?<P>And, if they stuck sex and/or nudity, I think that Tolkien would rise from the grave and kill PJ himself, saving you guys the effort...<P>I thought one of the worst things so far was them taking Glorfindel out all together...well: and Tom Bombadil... __________________ "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes

11-10-2002, 04:45 PM	#26
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	I guess I wouldn't mind Saruman dying in TTT. Since they are omitting the Scouring of the Shire, there is nothing left for him to do in RotK. They would have to create a bunch of stuff for him to do before the destruction of the Ring, and I'd rather see him die prematurly than take up movie time doing stuff he never did. It'd kind of be like Arwen and all that she does, except that Saruman isn't as palatable to look upon. (And really, what they did with Arwen was substiution...for Saruman they would literally have to create scenarios for him from scratch).<P>I'd like the Scouring of the Shire to be in there, of course, but if it isn't going to be in there, Saruman shouldn't be in there either.<P>So now I guess the worst that could happen (or one of, that is) would be to waste time creating baddie stuff for Saruman to do in RotK. If they are going to kill him in TTT it better be something good...though nothing leaps to mind...<P>Hmm, maybe I should start a thread, "How would you kill Saruman if you had to do it differently than the book." What do you think? Would everyone just jump on me an scream "You shouldn't HAVE to change the book!"? __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

11-10-2002, 11:57 PM	#27
Arwen1858 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gondor Posts: 516	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Hmm, maybe I should start a thread, "How would you kill Saruman if you had to do it differently than the book." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Sounds like the makings of a good thread to me!! __________________ Will Turner: "This is either madness or brilliance." Jack Sparrow: "It's remarkable how often those two traits coincide." ~ Pirates of the Caribbean

11-16-2002, 02:21 PM	#28
mp Guest Posts: n/a	The worst that could happen would that PJ would kill off Frodo and Sam, and an angry mob would come to his house, burn it down, and PJ refuses to release ROTK.