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Gwaihir the Windlord · 01-23-2001, 06:31 PM

Look what I dug out of the Weekly Telegraph this morning. <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Why 180m Pound Frodo could be more than a match for Harry Potter ...Everyone in the world with internet access seems to have strong opinions about Lord of the Rings, and has posted them on websitess. Around 400 sites devoted to the production contian sentiments ranging from orgasmic anticipation to grave foreboding. Some sites tell you how many minutes remain before the Fellowship of the Ring opens nearly 20 months hence. The ability and charisma of actors cast in the most minor roles is minutely discussed; Sean Connery, rather than MacKellen, is the preferred Gandalf in some chat rooms. The over-arching question is: can the films possibly be as good as the books? Reading these postings in bulk becomes depressing; one begins to feel that these people badly need to get a life.<hr></blockquote> Some people... Gwaihir the Windlord <A href="http://www.barrowdowns.com">the barrow-downs</A> 'Sing now, ye people of the Tower of Anor, for the Realm of Sauron is ended for ever, and the Dark Tower is thrown down.'

Zoe · 01-23-2001, 08:11 PM

Well obviously it's only those who think that Sean Connery should be Gandalf who need to get a life.

Inziladun · 01-24-2001, 03:28 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> ".....one begins to feel that these people badly need to get a life."<hr></blockquote> One begins to feel reporters are the Orcs of our times. <blockquote>Quote:<hr> "...yet they made only brutal jargons,scarcely sufficient even for their own needs,unless it were for curses and abuse.And these creatures,being filled with malice,hating even their own kind..."<hr></blockquote> Manwë keep you under the One, and send fair wind to your sails.

Taimar · 01-24-2001, 07:03 AM

Well said, Inziladun. It can truly be stated that JRRT`s work contains a quote for every occasion.

the Lorien wanderer · 01-24-2001, 07:31 AM

"Jo parajit hain woh to hain hi. Par jo haare huon ke bare mein baat karte hain, unki haalat par daya karo." That, roughly translated means, this - Those who have lost and are absolutley hopeless and geeky are the losers. But those who write and gossip endlessly about those losers, they REALLY need to get a life. Of course, the fact remains that there's nothing geeky or hopeless about discussing the movie... Not all those who wander are lost.

01-26-2001, 11:35 AM

The first time IVe seen MacKellen was in X-Men and I thought he was very good. I think he'll make an excellent Gandalf. Lord of the site <a href="http://ring-lord.tripod.com">Ring Lord </a>

Suldaledhel · 02-01-2001, 05:31 PM

Some reporters should stop complaining about those who need to get lives, and get one of their own.... And reporters wonder why they are loathed by many people... "See, half-brother! This is sharper than thy tounge. Try but once more to usurp my place and the love of my father, and maybe it will rid the Noldor of one who seeks to be master of thralls." -Feanor to Fingolfin- -=I may be found merrymaking at <a href=http://www.barrowdowns.com/>The Barrow Downs</a>=-

Orald · 02-01-2001, 07:24 PM

Almost as much as lawyers, right Mithadan

Samwise · 08-21-2002, 11:32 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Sean Connery, rather than MacKellen, is the preferred Gandalf in some chat rooms. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sean Connery?? I can see it: "You cannot pass! I am Bond, James Bond, an agent of the Secret Service, Wielder of all kinds of neat little spy gadgets! Dark fire will not avail you, Flame of Udûn. Go back to the shadow (Besides, don't you know the Cold War is history?)! You shall not pass!!Come on... But--a life?? Er--the movie was what, three hours? And there's talk here, but I do not stay home from my job reading the LOTR books, putting posts here or admiring my LOTR collection, for goodness' sake...

Daisy Sandybanks · 08-21-2002, 11:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>one begins to feel that these people badly need to get a life. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well, it seems that someone hasn't read the books, and if that someone has, whats the harm in a bit of gossip every now and then anyways?

Lhunbelethiel · 08-22-2002, 11:27 AM

I agree with Lorien Wanderer... Those who write about people without lives make them selves appear sadder than their subjects.

Brinniel · 08-22-2002, 01:19 PM

Get a life?

Not only is that an insult, but it's immature. I write for my school's paper and writing something like "get a life" is a big no no.

You do not insult thousands of people, especially if you don't know them. Just because we love LOTR, it doesn't mean nothing else is important to us. Everyone has an interest. Ours happens to be LOTR.

If this reporter really wanted to express his/her opinion that people are wasting their time talking about LOTR, then he/she does NOT say that we need to get a life. Instead, he/she should say their opinion with kinder words. And if this article is not to be an editorial, he/she should not be saying what they think at all.

Personally, I am very disappointed that this reporter could not find any better story to write than this one.

Morai · 08-22-2002, 02:38 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Personally, I am very disapointed that this reporter could not find any other story to write than this one <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I totally agree with that. Who wants to read a reporter complaining about what people think? Where I'm from this reporter would be in huge trouble for telling others to get a life.

Mattius · 08-22-2002, 05:48 PM

reporters are simply jealous of people such as JRRT because they simply do the same thing, write words 4 money yet JRRT was a genius and they make peanuts 4 the filth they produce[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: Mattius ]

Arwen Imladris · 08-22-2002, 06:52 PM

Another thing is that at least we are talking about literature, I mean, think of all of those chat rooms and things where people spend there time, not that that is bad of corce. But we are reading a lot, mostly useing proper english, and most people have read the books. I'd say that it is better to talk about LOTR then basically nothing. Don't you?

Lush · 08-22-2002, 09:09 PM

Eh. After you've gotten wasted at too many parties, having what other people refer to as "a life" seems overrated anyway. I'd rather stay in and read a book than socialize with the morons down the hall.

mark12_30 · 08-22-2002, 09:17 PM

I'm tyring to remember a certain quote. "Deep is profound".. no, no, that's not it. Something about depth or deep. How did that go again? EDIT: "Because Depth is the greatest of heights." (Thanks, Lush.)Anyway, point being, that depth is available in literature, good literature; but it is rarely plumbed entirely by one person; so discussing the depths helps us explore them. And when the depths involve what Tolkien gave us-- in all its glory and splendor-- that can point us to Real Life. As in, the way, the truth, the life... And that is Getting A Life. One that lasts. And lasts.[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: mark12_30 ]

Vardadurwen · 08-22-2002, 11:22 PM

When I read things like that, I always think about what those kind of people do for fun.Lush, your description of the morons down the hall are the exact kind of ppl that I think of when I hear comments made such as those.And really, what exactly is the problem with anticipating a commemoration to a great author? Nothing at all. I wonder if he has a problem with the local book club talking about when the next Stephen King novel is due? Or if he disses the ppl expecting the third Star Wars Movie?Also, I wonder what this person looks forward to in life and what he discusses with his/her friends...

01-23-2001, 06:31 PM	#1
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Newspaper Article turns sour <BR>Look what I dug out of the Weekly Telegraph this morning.<br> <br> <blockquote><i>Quote:</i></b><hr> Why 180m Pound Frodo could be more than a match for Harry Potter</b><br> ...Everyone in the world with internet access seems to have strong opinions about <i> Lord of the Rings</i>, and has posted them on websitess. Around 400 sites devoted to the production contian sentiments ranging from orgasmic anticipation to grave foreboding.<br> Some sites tell you how many minutes remain before the <i> Fellowship of the Ring</i> opens nearly 20 months hence. The ability and charisma of actors cast in the most minor roles is minutely discussed; Sean Connery, rather than MacKellen, is the preferred Gandalf in some chat rooms. The over-arching question is: can the films possibly be as good as the books? Reading these postings in bulk becomes depressing; one begins to feel that these people badly need to get a life.<hr></blockquote><br> <br> Some people... <p>Gwaihir the Windlord <I><A href="http://www.barrowdowns.com">the barrow-downs</A></I><BR> 'Sing now, ye people of the Tower of Anor,<BR> for the Realm of Sauron is ended for ever,<BR> and the Dark Tower is thrown down.'<BR></p>

01-23-2001, 08:11 PM	#2
Zoe Wight Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 223	<BR><br><br> Well <i> obviously</i> it's only those who think that Sean Connery should be Gandalf who need to get a life. <p></p>

01-24-2001, 03:28 AM	#3
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,038	<BR><br><br> <blockquote><i>Quote:</i></b><hr> ".....one begins to feel that these people badly need to get a life."<hr></blockquote><br> <br> One begins to feel reporters are the Orcs of our times. <br> <br> <blockquote><i>Quote:</i></b><hr> "...yet they made only brutal jargons,scarcely sufficient even for their own needs,unless it were for curses and abuse.And these creatures,being filled with malice,hating even their own kind..."<hr></blockquote> <p>Manwë keep you under the One, and send fair wind to your sails. </p> __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

01-24-2001, 07:03 AM	#4
Taimar Spirit of the Downfallen West Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 360	<BR><br><br> Well said, Inziladun. It can truly be stated that JRRT`s work contains a quote for every occasion. <p></p>

01-24-2001, 07:31 AM	#5
the Lorien wanderer Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 276	<BR><br><br> "Jo parajit hain woh to hain hi. Par jo haare huon ke bare mein baat karte hain, unki haalat par daya karo."<br> That, roughly translated means, this - Those who have lost and are absolutley hopeless and geeky are the losers. But those who write and gossip endlessly about those losers, they REALLY need to get a life.<br> Of course, the fact remains that there's nothing geeky or hopeless about discussing the movie... <br> <p>Not all those who wander are lost.</p>

01-26-2001, 11:35 AM	#6
Nazgoth Guest Posts: n/a	<BR><br><br> The first time IVe seen MacKellen was in X-Men and I thought he was very good. I think he'll make an excellent Gandalf. <p>Lord of the site <a href="http://ring-lord.tripod.com">Ring Lord </a></p>

02-01-2001, 05:31 PM	#7
Suldaledhel Eru's Gift Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Where pride pays silver and plays golden Posts: 215	<BR><br><br> Some reporters should stop complaining about those who need to get lives, and get one of their own.... And reporters wonder why they are loathed by many people... <p>"See, half-brother! This is sharper than thy tounge. Try but once more to usurp my place and the love of my father, and maybe it will rid the Noldor of one who seeks to be master of thralls." -Feanor to Fingolfin- -=I may be found merrymaking at <a href=http://www.barrowdowns.com/>The Barrow Downs</a>=- </p>

02-01-2001, 07:24 PM	#8
Orald Shadow of Malice Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: right behind you Posts: 843	<BR><br><br> Almost as much as lawyers, right Mithadan <p></p>

08-21-2002, 11:32 PM	#9
Samwise Faithful Spirit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: #3 Bagshot Row, Petaluma, Ca Posts: 2,299	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Sean Connery, rather than MacKellen, is the preferred Gandalf in some chat rooms. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Sean Connery?? I can see it:<BR>"You cannot pass! I am Bond, James Bond, an agent of the Secret Service, Wielder of all kinds of neat little spy gadgets! Dark fire will not avail you, Flame of Udûn. Go back to the shadow (Besides, don't you know the Cold War is history?)! You shall not pass!!<P>Come on...<BR>But--a life?? Er--the movie was what, three hours? And there's talk here, but I do not stay home from my job reading the LOTR books, putting posts here or admiring my LOTR collection, for goodness' sake... __________________ Giving thanks unto the Father...In whom we have redemption through His blood, even the forgiveness of sins.~Colossians1:12a,14 * * * * * * * I am Samwise son of Hamfast, if by hoe or trowel I can get these weeds out of your garden, I will.You have my shears!;)

08-21-2002, 11:56 PM	#10
Daisy Sandybanks Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: California Posts: 101	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>one begins to feel that these people badly need to get a life. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>Well, it seems that someone hasn't read the books, and if that someone has, whats the harm in a bit of gossip every now and then anyways? __________________ Knowlege is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.

08-22-2002, 11:27 AM	#11
Lhunbelethiel Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Francisco Bay Area (aka Bay of Belfalas) Posts: 103	I agree with Lorien Wanderer... Those who write about people without lives make them selves appear sadder than their subjects. __________________ ~~All that is gold does not glitter, not all who wander are lost, all that is old does not wither, deep roots are not touched by the frost...~~

08-22-2002, 01:19 PM	#12
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	Get a life? Not only is that an insult, but it's immature. I write for my school's paper and writing something like "get a life" is a big no no. You do not insult thousands of people, especially if you don't know them. Just because we love LOTR, it doesn't mean nothing else is important to us. Everyone has an interest. Ours happens to be LOTR. If this reporter really wanted to express his/her opinion that people are wasting their time talking about LOTR, then he/she does NOT say that we need to get a life. Instead, he/she should say their opinion with kinder words. And if this article is not to be an editorial, he/she should not be saying what they think at all. Personally, I am very disappointed that this reporter could not find any better story to write than this one. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum Last edited by Brinniel; 02-05-2007 at 06:58 PM.

08-22-2002, 02:38 PM	#13
Morai Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: Where young people go to retire Posts: 709	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Personally, I am very disapointed that this reporter could not find any other story to write than this one <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I totally agree with that. Who wants to read a reporter complaining about what people think? Where I'm from this reporter would be in huge trouble for telling others to get a life. __________________ "So why the safe distance, this curious look? Why tear out single pages when you can throw away the book? Why pluck one string when you can strum the guitar? MeWithoutYou http://fortyfifthparadox.com

08-22-2002, 05:48 PM	#14
Mattius Soul of Fire Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of Steel Posts: 666	reporters are simply jealous of people such as JRRT because they simply do the same thing, write words 4 money yet JRRT was a genius and they make peanuts 4 the filth they produce<p>[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: Mattius ] __________________ A problem shared is a problem halved, so is your problem really yours or just half of someone else's?

08-22-2002, 06:52 PM	#15
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Another thing is that at least we are talking about literature, I mean, think of all of those chat rooms and things where people spend there time, not that that is bad of corce. But we are reading a lot, mostly useing proper english, and most people have read the books. I'd say that it is better to talk about LOTR then basically nothing. Don't you? __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

08-22-2002, 09:09 PM	#16
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	Eh. After you've gotten wasted at too many parties, having what other people refer to as "a life" seems overrated anyway. I'd rather stay in and read a book than socialize with the morons down the hall. __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

08-22-2002, 09:17 PM	#17
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	I'm tyring to remember a certain quote. "Deep is profound".. no, no, that's not it. Something about depth or deep. How did that go again? EDIT: "Because Depth is the greatest of heights." (Thanks, Lush.)<P>Anyway, point being, that depth is available in literature, good literature; but it is rarely plumbed entirely by one person; so discussing the depths helps us explore them. And when the depths involve what Tolkien gave us-- in all its glory and splendor-- that can point us to Real Life. As in, the way, the truth, the life... And that is Getting A Life. One that lasts. And lasts.<p>[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: mark12_30 ] __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

08-22-2002, 11:22 PM	#18
Vardadurwen Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 102	When I read things like that, I always think about what those kind of people do for fun.<P>Lush, your description of the morons down the hall are the exact kind of ppl that I think of when I hear comments made such as those.<P>And really, what exactly is the problem with anticipating a commemoration to a great author? Nothing at all. <P>I wonder if he has a problem with the local book club talking about when the next Stephen King novel is due? Or if he disses the ppl expecting the third Star Wars Movie?<P>Also, I wonder what this person looks forward to in life and what he discusses with his/her friends... __________________ 'In this phial,' she said, 'is caught the light of Earendil's star....May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out...' - Galadriel 'Now there's an eye-opener and no mistake!' - Samwise Gamgee