Whats In the East? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nefwathiel Teleri · 03-02-2002, 09:01 PM

Why doesnt tolkien talk about the lands beyond the eastern border of mordor? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] "...and to the west I go not." - gandalf the grey.

Dior · 03-20-2002, 09:40 AM

Try getting the Atlas of Middle Earth. It shows the geography of it, but doesn't say much else about it. I know that after the War of Wrath though, the swarthy Easterlings who fought with Morgoth went back to the sea of Rhun and became kings of the people there.

Dior · 03-20-2002, 09:41 AM

oh, and your quote's wrong. Gandalf doesn't go to the EAST, not the west.

Mhoram · 03-20-2002, 09:49 AM

The elves awoke in the east, beyond the sea of Ruhn.

Airetalathwen · 03-20-2002, 10:24 AM

Aren't there like wild men/outlanders in the East?

~Airetalathwen

Dior · 03-22-2002, 11:00 PM

There was no sea of Rhun when the elves were born. It was beyond the Inland sea of Helcar.

inglorion · 03-23-2002, 11:11 AM

I don´t know about Seas and Kings in the East but I do know this, it´s an fragment of the diary of Sauron:
'Perhaps I will rent a room in the "Blue Istari" which is rumoured to be the best night-club left east of Moria. May they blast Lugburz to splinters. The better for it, then she may think I am gone for good and would not seek me.'
So there is a very good night-club in the East, that´s all there is to tell about it [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
Btw if you want to read more in Sauron´s diary go to http://people.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~...ien/Diary.html
It´s really good,
Greetings, gildor

Thinhyandoiel · 03-24-2002, 01:13 AM

I've always wondered about the east, too. In all the maps I've seen, it's just desolate emptiness. Must look into that Atlas thing. But yes, the Elves awoke in the east, and some of the Teleri remained. My memory of the Silmarillion is vague in some parts. Must read that book again. But I can't remember, not all the Elves travelled west, so wouldn't some be still left in the east where they were born?

Dior · 03-27-2002, 08:34 PM

I think that after the rise of Sauron most of the Avari(dark elves) left the east, because it came under his dominion.

03-02-2002, 09:01 PM	#1
Nefwathiel Teleri Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 122	Whats In the East? Why doesnt tolkien talk about the lands beyond the eastern border of mordor? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] "...and to the west I go not." - gandalf the grey.

03-20-2002, 09:40 AM	#2
Dior Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Doriath Posts: 242	Try getting the Atlas of Middle Earth. It shows the geography of it, but doesn't say much else about it. I know that after the War of Wrath though, the swarthy Easterlings who fought with Morgoth went back to the sea of Rhun and became kings of the people there. __________________ Goodbye everybody, I've got to go... Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth....

03-20-2002, 09:41 AM	#3
Dior Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Doriath Posts: 242	oh, and your quote's wrong. Gandalf doesn't go to the EAST, not the west. __________________ Goodbye everybody, I've got to go... Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth....

03-20-2002, 10:24 AM	#5
Airetalathwen Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Greenwood the Great Posts: 28	Aren't there like wild men/outlanders in the East? ~Airetalathwen __________________ I heard an old voice say~ "Don't go far from the land The seasons have their way~ No mortal can understand"

03-22-2002, 11:00 PM	#6
Dior Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Doriath Posts: 242	There was no sea of Rhun when the elves were born. It was beyond the Inland sea of Helcar. __________________ Goodbye everybody, I've got to go... Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth....

03-20-2002, 09:49 AM	#4
Mhoram Dead and Loving It Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The land of fast cars and loud guitars. Posts: 361	The elves awoke in the east, beyond the sea of Ruhn.

03-23-2002, 11:11 AM	#7
inglorion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Hollandia Posts: 55	I don´t know about Seas and Kings in the East but I do know this, it´s an fragment of the diary of Sauron: 'Perhaps I will rent a room in the "Blue Istari" which is rumoured to be the best night-club left east of Moria. May they blast Lugburz to splinters. The better for it, then she may think I am gone for good and would not seek me.' So there is a very good night-club in the East, that´s all there is to tell about it [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Btw if you want to read more in Sauron´s diary go to http://people.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~...ien/Diary.html It´s really good, Greetings, gildor __________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards for they are subtle and quick to anger.

03-24-2002, 01:13 AM	#8
Thinhyandoiel Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 187	I've always wondered about the east, too. In all the maps I've seen, it's just desolate emptiness. Must look into that Atlas thing. But yes, the Elves awoke in the east, and some of the Teleri remained. My memory of the Silmarillion is vague in some parts. Must read that book again. But I can't remember, not all the Elves travelled west, so wouldn't some be still left in the east where they were born? __________________ In gwidh ristennen, i fae narchannen I lach Anor ed ardhon gwannen Caled veleg, ethuiannen

03-27-2002, 08:34 PM	#9
Dior Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Doriath Posts: 242	I think that after the rise of Sauron most of the Avari(dark elves) left the east, because it came under his dominion. __________________ Goodbye everybody, I've got to go... Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth....