question out of curiousity: the other wizards - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

02-09-2002, 06:06 PM

A question for all you more knowledgeable toklienites than I...

There are 5 wizards of Gandalf's order in Middle-Earth, right? Well, I'm very curious to who the other 2 (besides Gandalf, Saruman, and Radagast) are and what they are doing during LOTR... like, why woulnd't they be engrossed in such a major affair?

I figure these guys probably show up in the other Middle Earth books and you guys know about them... so I thought I'd throw my question out there, 'cause I really am quite curious...

Elrian · 02-09-2002, 06:34 PM

All that is known of Alatar and Pallando (the Blue Wizards) is that they went inot the East. This coming from Unfinished Tales.

[ February 09, 2002: Message edited by: Elrian ]

Mirkgirl · 02-09-2002, 06:47 PM

All I've seen are their names at UT - Pallando and Alatar. Alatar is sent from Orome, Pallando from Orome or Mandos and Niena.

Maybe they are the ones who settled the cults that lasted after Sauron /one of the theories/.

Aralaithiel · 02-09-2002, 08:12 PM

Unfortunately only their names are mentioned in UT. I highly recommend reading Unfinished Tales, and The Silmarillion. And of course, all the other ME stuff.

Lutfiska · 03-23-2003, 01:17 PM

Pallando, Alatar and Saruman together wnt into the east but only Saruman came back... And that sure makes me suspicious....

Inderjit Sanghera · 03-23-2003, 01:19 PM

Also see HoME 12; Last Writings.

02-09-2002, 06:06 PM	#1
Angus Og Guest Posts: n/a	question out of curiousity: the other wizards A question for all you more knowledgeable toklienites than I... There are 5 wizards of Gandalf's order in Middle-Earth, right? Well, I'm very curious to who the other 2 (besides Gandalf, Saruman, and Radagast) are and what they are doing during LOTR... like, why woulnd't they be engrossed in such a major affair? I figure these guys probably show up in the other Middle Earth books and you guys know about them... so I thought I'd throw my question out there, 'cause I really am quite curious...

02-09-2002, 06:34 PM	#2
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	All that is known of Alatar and Pallando (the Blue Wizards) is that they went inot the East. This coming from Unfinished Tales. [ February 09, 2002: Message edited by: Elrian ] __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

02-09-2002, 06:47 PM	#3
Mirkgirl Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 84	All I've seen are their names at UT - Pallando and Alatar. Alatar is sent from Orome, Pallando from Orome or Mandos and Niena. Maybe they are the ones who settled the cults that lasted after Sauron /one of the theories/. __________________ "Hobbits! Well, what next? I have heard of strange doings in this land, but I have seldom heard of a hobbit sleeping out of doors under a tree. Three of them! There's something mighty queer behind this."

02-09-2002, 08:12 PM	#4
Aralaithiel Ghost Eldaran Queen Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A remote mountain in Valinor Posts: 353	Unfortunately only their names are mentioned in UT. I highly recommend reading Unfinished Tales, and The Silmarillion. And of course, all the other ME stuff. __________________ A lelyat, wen! (Quenya Elvish for "You go, girl!"

03-23-2003, 01:17 PM	#5
Lutfiska Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 60	Pallando, Alatar and Saruman together wnt into the east but only Saruman came back... And that sure makes me suspicious.... __________________ Go Bushie Vote yes to war

03-23-2003, 01:19 PM	#6
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Also see HoME 12; Last Writings. __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone