What if Sam had a wraith girlfriend? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Keeper of the Feet of Melkor · 09-10-2002, 08:22 PM

The theory was as follows:

When Sam and Frodo are in Minas Morgul, Sam meets a Ringwraith named Sarah. He falls madly in love with her and asks her to marry him and return to the Shire, so she does. Frodo never actually takes the Ring to Mount Doom; he gives up the Quest because he thinks it is hopeless without Sam. So, he goes back to the Shire as well, where he decides he's going to steal Sam's old girlfriend (Rose Cotton). Meanwhile, Sauron is back at the Barad-dur, doing... evil overlord stuff. When he finds out that Sarah has left him for a hobbit, he throws a tantrum and wrecks his Dark Tower, thus convincing everyone else that the War of the Ring is over. So, the King returns, etc. Back to the Shire... Frodo throws a party to announce his engagement to Rosie, and he uses the One Ring as an engagement band... Sarah and Sam, of course, are guests at the party, and Sarah, being a Ringwraith, recognizes the Ring as soon as Frodo takes it out of his pocket and slips it onto Rosie's finger. (The fact that she disappears makes it even more obvious.) So Sarah leaps at Rosie and stabs her with her Morgul-knife (old habits die hard...) and then snatches the Ring away. She flees the Shire with the Ring, and goes directly to Mordor to deliver it to Sauron. Sauron has taken up residence at Mount Doom while his slaves build him a shiny new Dark Tower, so he's... there. Sarah tracks him down, finding him while he is standing on the edge of the Crack of Doom... fire-gazing, or warming his hands up or something. She is just about to tap him on the shoulder and hand him the Ring when she trips over a rock and falls to her death, thus destroying Sauron. Then, Sam marries Rosie and Frodo sails into the West. The End.

*theory introduced by Zoe (co-author of the chronocals) who can no longer visit the downs because of...certain matters...*

-Sarah was a wrobbit (do the math)

[ September 14, 2002: Message edited by: Keeper of the Feet of Melkor ]

Merry_Pippin_Frodo_Sam · 09-11-2002, 11:58 AM

OH NO!!!!!
not good!

[img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Arwen Imladris · 09-11-2002, 02:31 PM

Hmmm... you should expand that a little and then send it into fan fic. It is pretty crazy, but funny.

Samwise_Gamgee · 10-07-2002, 06:20 PM

[img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] Now I really don't like this!

Faye Took · 10-07-2002, 08:55 PM

Uhhh....oh my....

Diamond18 · 10-07-2002, 10:49 PM

I'm so sorry, but it was awful. My real name is Sarah and so it drove me absoulutely crazy. But I may forgive you, since you didn't drag Pippin into it. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Persephine · 10-09-2002, 03:37 AM

Aloha everybody...I'm new around here...please be gentle...

Hmmmmm...Samwise with a wraith girlfriend...wouldn't he be scared out of his wits??? The poor darling...

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Seeya around soon...

Anastasia · 10-10-2002, 11:41 AM

I thought it was pretty funny, actually...

Rose Cotton · 10-10-2002, 03:05 PM

I liked it. I don't understand why so many were offended (exept Diamond) It's only a story.

Persephine · 10-10-2002, 07:41 PM

Heck, I actually thought that it was pretty funny, but i just pitited Sam, i meant a wraith for a girlfriend... [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

But this is just my opinion, though...

Diamond18 · 10-10-2002, 08:16 PM

It just doesn't make any smattering of sense. A Ringwraith named Sarah? Sam falls madly in love with a Ringwraith? Why? Why would that be funny? I guess here I am guilty of being a Tolkien purist who gets up in arms with too much liberty taken with his story. There just didn't seem to be any reason...*shrugs*...I mean, I've read it a couple times trying to see if I'm just being mulish but...there has to be a line somewhere when it comes to spoofing another person's work.

Anyway, by posting Keeper of the Feet of Melkor asked us what we thought, and I'm just being honest.

[ October 10, 2002: Message edited by: Diamond18 ]

Demloth of Dol Amroth · 10-10-2002, 08:37 PM

*makes many weird faces* thats...new...errr, yeah, ahem. creative, yes, disturbing, just a little bit, new-certainly. don't know if tolkien would be rolling in his grave for the hysterical laughter or the "omygawd what have they done" factor. not bad, for sure, but just strange.

Keeper of the Feet of Melkor · 10-12-2002, 03:40 PM

Thank you for being honest, your remarks dont bother me or anything...
Why? Because my friend made it up (poor zoe, trapped in a private school, doomed to hermit) Although, hermitting is fun.....he he he

In defense of my friend:
She's creative and has many random theories about tolkien work...as do I. This one was one of those "what if" things. Its no worse than "what if frodo didnt take the ring to mordor" Because both the ideas didnt happen, and if they did, theyd be betraying their characters nature...but newayz, thx for posting

-Kelly

09-10-2002, 08:22 PM	#1
Keeper of the Feet of Melkor Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 45	What if Sam had a wraith girlfriend? The theory was as follows: When Sam and Frodo are in Minas Morgul, Sam meets a Ringwraith named Sarah. He falls madly in love with her and asks her to marry him and return to the Shire, so she does. Frodo never actually takes the Ring to Mount Doom; he gives up the Quest because he thinks it is hopeless without Sam. So, he goes back to the Shire as well, where he decides he's going to steal Sam's old girlfriend (Rose Cotton). Meanwhile, Sauron is back at the Barad-dur, doing... evil overlord stuff. When he finds out that Sarah has left him for a hobbit, he throws a tantrum and wrecks his Dark Tower, thus convincing everyone else that the War of the Ring is over. So, the King returns, etc. Back to the Shire... Frodo throws a party to announce his engagement to Rosie, and he uses the One Ring as an engagement band... Sarah and Sam, of course, are guests at the party, and Sarah, being a Ringwraith, recognizes the Ring as soon as Frodo takes it out of his pocket and slips it onto Rosie's finger. (The fact that she disappears makes it even more obvious.) So Sarah leaps at Rosie and stabs her with her Morgul-knife (old habits die hard...) and then snatches the Ring away. She flees the Shire with the Ring, and goes directly to Mordor to deliver it to Sauron. Sauron has taken up residence at Mount Doom while his slaves build him a shiny new Dark Tower, so he's... there. Sarah tracks him down, finding him while he is standing on the edge of the Crack of Doom... fire-gazing, or warming his hands up or something. She is just about to tap him on the shoulder and hand him the Ring when she trips over a rock and falls to her death, thus destroying Sauron. Then, Sam marries Rosie and Frodo sails into the West. The End. theory introduced by Zoe (co-author of the chronocals) who can no longer visit the downs because of...certain matters... -Sarah was a wrobbit (do the math) [ September 14, 2002: Message edited by: Keeper of the Feet of Melkor ] __________________ Nazgul, just evil hiding under sheets (reference to the Chronocals of Zoe and Kelly, retrieved from the depths of English class)

09-11-2002, 11:58 AM	#2
Merry_Pippin_Frodo_Sam Animated Skeleton Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Buckland Posts: 41	OH NO!!!!! not good! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ `Merry';)

09-11-2002, 02:31 PM	#3
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Hmmm... you should expand that a little and then send it into fan fic. It is pretty crazy, but funny. __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

10-07-2002, 06:20 PM	#4
Samwise_Gamgee Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Middle-Earth Posts: 68	[img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] Now I really don't like this! __________________ "Your bodygaurd?" "His Gardner"

10-07-2002, 08:55 PM	#5
Faye Took Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 343	Uhhh....oh my.... __________________ Dream-of the ones who came before. They are calling from across a distant shore. My Blog

10-07-2002, 10:49 PM	#6
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	I'm so sorry, but it was awful. My real name is Sarah and so it drove me absoulutely crazy. But I may forgive you, since you didn't drag Pippin into it. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

10-09-2002, 03:37 AM	#7
Persephine Animated Skeleton Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the arms of Eru Illuvatar Posts: 44	Aloha everybody...I'm new around here...please be gentle... Hmmmmm...Samwise with a wraith girlfriend...wouldn't he be scared out of his wits??? The poor darling... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Seeya around soon... __________________ ~~~~ Seph ~~~~ Believe in me. I can make you well. I can make you happy. Believe. Make me happy and love me in your turn. Believe in me.

10-10-2002, 11:41 AM	#8
Anastasia Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: London Posts: 91	I thought it was pretty funny, actually... __________________ Aw, you've done grand, laddie! Now you know what you have to do: Burn the house down. Burn 'em all! ~The Leprechaun from The Simpsons.

10-10-2002, 03:05 PM	#9
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	I liked it. I don't understand why so many were offended (exept Diamond) It's only a story. __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

10-10-2002, 07:41 PM	#10
Persephine Animated Skeleton Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the arms of Eru Illuvatar Posts: 44	Heck, I actually thought that it was pretty funny, but i just pitited Sam, i meant a wraith for a girlfriend... [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] But this is just my opinion, though... __________________ ~~~~ Seph ~~~~ Believe in me. I can make you well. I can make you happy. Believe. Make me happy and love me in your turn. Believe in me.

10-10-2002, 08:16 PM	#11
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	It just doesn't make any smattering of sense. A Ringwraith named Sarah? Sam falls madly in love with a Ringwraith? Why? Why would that be funny? I guess here I am guilty of being a Tolkien purist who gets up in arms with too much liberty taken with his story. There just didn't seem to be any reason...shrugs...I mean, I've read it a couple times trying to see if I'm just being mulish but...there has to be a line somewhere when it comes to spoofing another person's work. Anyway, by posting Keeper of the Feet of Melkor asked us what we thought, and I'm just being honest. [ October 10, 2002: Message edited by: Diamond18 ] __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

10-10-2002, 08:37 PM	#12
Demloth of Dol Amroth Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 105	makes many weird faces thats...new...errr, yeah, ahem. creative, yes, disturbing, just a little bit, new-certainly. don't know if tolkien would be rolling in his grave for the hysterical laughter or the "omygawd what have they done" factor. not bad, for sure, but just strange. __________________ One by one the Free Lands of Middle Earth fell to the power of the Ring-but there were some, who resisted...

10-12-2002, 03:40 PM	#13
Keeper of the Feet of Melkor Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 45	Thank you for being honest, your remarks dont bother me or anything... Why? Because my friend made it up (poor zoe, trapped in a private school, doomed to hermit) Although, hermitting is fun.....he he he In defense of my friend: She's creative and has many random theories about tolkien work...as do I. This one was one of those "what if" things. Its no worse than "what if frodo didnt take the ring to mordor" Because both the ideas didnt happen, and if they did, theyd be betraying their characters nature...but newayz, thx for posting -Kelly __________________ Nazgul, just evil hiding under sheets (reference to the Chronocals of Zoe and Kelly, retrieved from the depths of English class)