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Wight
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The Elves are the firstborn of ME, and Men are the second, the Children of Ilúvatar. BUT, the so-called 'Woses', the wild forest-men of the Druadan forest in Anórien were - according to a certain statement made by their chieftain Ghân-buri-Ghân during the War of the Ring - before even the elves...
Ghân-buri-Ghân says to Theoden that his people is an ancient people, and that they saw the other men (or something like that, 'men' here being an issue of discussion) comeout of the water. Questions: 1. Did Men come out of the water in the beginning, like the Elves? 2. If not, then Ghân-bu... refers to his people having seen the Elves rise from the water?!?!?!? 3. If Men also came from the water, where did the Woses come from, and what are they? Taken from David Day's 'A Tolkien Bestiary': Quote:
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Ahh. Very enlightening (actually, why the heck didn't I think of that myself? Oh well, I'll just stay in my little dark corner and see if I can make my brain grow before I try to post again [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] )
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Nah, very simple explanation. Ghan-buri-Ghan is refering to the Numenoreans coming out of the sea metaphorically. One has to thing in anthropological terms of a primitive people without words for ships, sailing and so forth.
************** "The Eldar called them Druedain, admitting them to the rank of the Atani, for they were much loved while they lasted." [ January 21, 2002: Message edited by: Man-of-the-Wold ]
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