Ring of Barahir - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Bruce MacCulloch · 02-07-2002, 12:55 AM

The ring that Elrond gave Aragorn in LOTR Appendix A, part V - is that the same Ring that Beren wore? The one given to Barahir by Finrod Felagund?

Inziladun · 02-07-2002, 04:24 AM

It was. Elrond's words when he gave it to Aragorn could only have meant that.

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Here is the ring of Barahir, the token of our kinship from afar.

Bruce MacCulloch · 02-07-2002, 04:40 AM

Thanks, Inziladun! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
I thought that's what he meant, but thanks for clarifying.

Lindolirian · 02-07-2002, 08:45 PM

The Ring of Barahir was given to Barahir by Finrod Felagund as a token of their friendship and a tangible reminder of the oath that Felagund gave to Barahir the day the Elf'lord was saved from certain death in battle by Barahir. Beren held the Ring aloft as a "surrender flag" when he went to Nargothrond on the Quest of the Silmaril to show that he was friendly. It saved his lfe from the guards and he and Finrod went to the Isle af the Were wolves. The story goes on and the Ring of Barahir is an heirloom of Beren's house. Dior to Earendil to Elros and on through the Kings of Numenor and the Kings of Arnor and the Heirs of Isildur to Aragorn. The Ring is said to be made in the form of two serpents with their heads intertwining at the top of the Ring. iI think it's green. well that about all i know about the Ring of Barahir. o and it was made in Valinor.... i think...

Man-of-the-Wold · 02-09-2002, 03:23 AM

Yes, it is the most ancient and sacred of heirlooms, not only for the love of Finrod, but also because it was indeed a product of the Blessed Realm. It was also saved from the drowning Arvedui, since he gave it a gift to the Lossoth. It evidently went to the Lords of Andunië through Silmarien. The big mystery is how it survived the War of the Last Alliance and the Disaster of the Gladden Fields, unless left in Rivendell with the Sceptre of Annuminas.

Man-of-the-Wold · 02-11-2002, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Man-of-the-Wold:
<STRONG> The big mystery is how it survived the War of the Last Alliance and the Disaster of the Gladden Fields, unless left in Rivendell with the Sceptre of Annuminas.</STRONG>

I thought up an answer, in addition to its having been safeguarded in Rivendell. That is that it was sort of a token of the Crowned Prince. So, potentially, it was worn by Elendur and recovered from his body.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 02-11-2002, 04:20 AM

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So, potentially, it was worn by Elendur and recovered from his body.

Those Orcs must have been in a hurry if they left the battlefield without looting the corpses.

Inziladun · 02-11-2002, 08:21 AM

The orcs obviously were in a hurry. They failed to notice all the Men weren't dead. Elendur's esquire was only stunned.

Man-of-the-Wold · 02-12-2002, 01:08 AM

Yup, and The Unfinished Tales I think implies that the Orecs were practically wiped out themselves and soon chased off my Woodmen and Wood-Elves, who came on the scene.

02-07-2002, 12:55 AM	#1
Bruce MacCulloch Dead Man of Dunharrow Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 651	Ring of Barahir The ring that Elrond gave Aragorn in LOTR Appendix A, part V - is that the same Ring that Beren wore? The one given to Barahir by Finrod Felagund? __________________ `A blunderbuss, was it?' said he, scratching his head. `I thought it was horseflies!'

02-07-2002, 04:40 AM	#3
Bruce MacCulloch Dead Man of Dunharrow Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 651	Thanks, Inziladun! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] I thought that's what he meant, but thanks for clarifying. __________________ `A blunderbuss, was it?' said he, scratching his head. `I thought it was horseflies!'

02-07-2002, 08:45 PM	#4
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	The Ring of Barahir was given to Barahir by Finrod Felagund as a token of their friendship and a tangible reminder of the oath that Felagund gave to Barahir the day the Elf'lord was saved from certain death in battle by Barahir. Beren held the Ring aloft as a "surrender flag" when he went to Nargothrond on the Quest of the Silmaril to show that he was friendly. It saved his lfe from the guards and he and Finrod went to the Isle af the Were wolves. The story goes on and the Ring of Barahir is an heirloom of Beren's house. Dior to Earendil to Elros and on through the Kings of Numenor and the Kings of Arnor and the Heirs of Isildur to Aragorn. The Ring is said to be made in the form of two serpents with their heads intertwining at the top of the Ring. iI think it's green. well that about all i know about the Ring of Barahir. o and it was made in Valinor.... i think... __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-09-2002, 03:23 AM	#5
Man-of-the-Wold Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: With Tux, dread poodle of Pinnath Galin Posts: 239	Yes, it is the most ancient and sacred of heirlooms, not only for the love of Finrod, but also because it was indeed a product of the Blessed Realm. It was also saved from the drowning Arvedui, since he gave it a gift to the Lossoth. It evidently went to the Lords of Andunië through Silmarien. The big mystery is how it survived the War of the Last Alliance and the Disaster of the Gladden Fields, unless left in Rivendell with the Sceptre of Annuminas. __________________ The hoes unrecked in the fields were flung, __ and fallen ladders in the long grass lay __ of the lush orchards; every tree there turned __ its tangled head and eyed them secretly, __ and the ears listened of the nodding grasses; __ though noontide glowed on land and leaf, __ their limbs were chilled.

02-11-2002, 08:21 AM	#8
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,037	The orcs obviously were in a hurry. They failed to notice all the Men weren't dead. Elendur's esquire was only stunned. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

02-12-2002, 01:08 AM	#9
Man-of-the-Wold Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: With Tux, dread poodle of Pinnath Galin Posts: 239	Yup, and The Unfinished Tales I think implies that the Orecs were practically wiped out themselves and soon chased off my Woodmen and Wood-Elves, who came on the scene. __________________ The hoes unrecked in the fields were flung, __ and fallen ladders in the long grass lay __ of the lush orchards; every tree there turned __ its tangled head and eyed them secretly, __ and the ears listened of the nodding grasses; __ though noontide glowed on land and leaf, __ their limbs were chilled.