dwarf fathers - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

lore_master · 05-15-2003, 05:04 PM

i know Durin was one of the seven fathers of the dwarves, but who were the others?(if they are named anywere)

Nils · 05-15-2003, 06:17 PM

Perhaps the first born was known as 'Durin' to the outside world, but that was not his name.

I'm afraid that we don't know much about the Dwarves.

the guy who be short · 05-19-2003, 12:03 PM

i think 2 or 3 others are named somewhere in the HoME. other than that, i cant really help you. but i think quite a few were placed in the east.

Lalaith · 05-19-2003, 03:46 PM

We know the names of the seven houses but not, I think, of the Fathers.
Here are a couple of links you might like: http://www.annalsofarda.dk/Annals-of.../Introtext.htm
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/4786/28918

Scott · 05-19-2003, 06:36 PM

Great sites Lalaith! Very informative.
However, as for the topic, I don't think Tolkien ever intended to state the names of the Dwarves ever in any real detail unless he absolutely needed to. The dwarves were always set up to be "the dark peoples" of Arda, you know. With so much information on the other peoples of Middle Earth i think that it was necessary for Tolkien to give us a group of people to have to guess about. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Maybe I'm just really ignorant on this subject?
~Scott

Gorwingel · 05-20-2003, 09:35 AM

scott I would doubt you would be ignorant on the subject. The Dwarves are just peoples that we don't know much about. I have to agree with the statement that they were the "dark people", additionally they always liked to keep to themselves down in the mines and dark places.

Inderjit Sanghera · 05-21-2003, 12:47 PM

Only Durin was ever mentioned.'Of Dwarves and Men'(HoME 12) mentions that 'Durin' was a mannish name for 'king' since Dwarves never revealed their Khuzdul names.

Amarie of the Vanyar · 05-21-2003, 01:37 PM

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since Dwarves never revealed their Khuzdul names

Not even on their tombs !!! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Remember Balin's tomb in Moria, and that Balin was his public name but that he had another secret dwarvish name [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

05-15-2003, 05:04 PM	#1
lore_master Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Valhalla Posts: 116	dwarf fathers i know Durin was one of the seven fathers of the dwarves, but who were the others?(if they are named anywere) __________________ As you go the way of life, you will see a great chasm. Jump. It is not as wide as you think

05-15-2003, 06:17 PM	#2
Nils Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 129	Perhaps the first born was known as 'Durin' to the outside world, but that was not his name. I'm afraid that we don't know much about the Dwarves. __________________ For by your words you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned ~Matthew 12:37

05-19-2003, 03:46 PM	#4
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	We know the names of the seven houses but not, I think, of the Fathers. Here are a couple of links you might like: http://www.annalsofarda.dk/Annals-of.../Introtext.htm http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/4786/28918 __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

05-19-2003, 06:36 PM	#5
Scott Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ohio/Grey Havens Posts: 183	Great sites Lalaith! Very informative. However, as for the topic, I don't think Tolkien ever intended to state the names of the Dwarves ever in any real detail unless he absolutely needed to. The dwarves were always set up to be "the dark peoples" of Arda, you know. With so much information on the other peoples of Middle Earth i think that it was necessary for Tolkien to give us a group of people to have to guess about. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Maybe I'm just really ignorant on this subject? ~Scott __________________ Those who the Gods would destroy, They first make mad. ~Those Crazy Greeks

05-20-2003, 09:35 AM	#6
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	scott I would doubt you would be ignorant on the subject. The Dwarves are just peoples that we don't know much about. I have to agree with the statement that they were the "dark people", additionally they always liked to keep to themselves down in the mines and dark places. __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

05-19-2003, 12:03 PM	#3
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	i think 2 or 3 others are named somewhere in the HoME. other than that, i cant really help you. but i think quite a few were placed in the east.

05-21-2003, 12:47 PM	#7
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Only Durin was ever mentioned.'Of Dwarves and Men'(HoME 12) mentions that 'Durin' was a mannish name for 'king' since Dwarves never revealed their Khuzdul names. __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone