Picture Of Smeagol? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Davin · 01-08-2003, 02:02 PM

I found this picture of Smeagol (or what I am assuming is Smeagol around the time when he first finds the ring) at <A HREF="http://www.serkis.com" TARGET=_blank>www.serkis.com</A> (Andy Serkis' Official Website) and I wanted to see if anybody else noticed it before and what you guys think about it. [ January 08, 2003: Message edited by: Davin ]

Nibinlondwen · 01-08-2003, 02:08 PM

well, it doesnt look anything like a hobbit if you ask me. but it sure is serkis kind of picture.

Davin · 01-08-2003, 02:11 PM

It has pointyish ears...and Serkis didn't play an elf..so I am assuming it is supposed to be a hobbit. And the picture had text underneath saying it was Smeagol/Gollum from RotK...

Deathwail · 01-08-2003, 04:03 PM

Could be from after he had the ring for sometime and its effects where twisting him into the Gollum we all know and love

MLD-Grounds-Keeper-Willie · 01-08-2003, 05:27 PM

I don't know...and I don't like it if it is supposed to be Smeagol. I mean, he most certainly didn't looklike that before the ring or when he 'found' it. I hope they don't show this in RotK and say it's Smeagol. This guy kind of looks like Grima, sort of.

Fingo · 01-08-2003, 08:02 PM

I have the TT movie book, and that picture is in there under the part about creating Gollum but they don't explain it. I was wondering what that was though. Seems to me, even if it was labeled with RotK, it would be more of a TT extended scene.

Birdland · 01-09-2003, 12:20 AM

Well, I don't think Smeagol the Stoor picked up the One Ring and - POOF! - instantly became the bald, loincloth-wearing Stinker we all know and love. I would imagine that this is a pic of Smeagol undergoing a gradual transformation, perhaps after he has been cast out by his family and had been wandering in the Wilderness for awhile. Maybe this is the moment when he decides to "take to the hills" and hide out under the mountains to escape from humankind and the skin-damaging rays of the Sun. Or maybe we're just seeing a really bad case of Ring-induced D.T.s. [ January 09, 2003: Message edited by: Birdland ]

**sparkle fairy** · 01-09-2003, 10:53 AM

i thought they said he was supposed to be a river person or something like that not a hobbit. I haven't read the book yet but in the film it says that.

Atariel · 01-09-2003, 11:23 AM

You know what... according to the pronunciation notes Smeagol should be pronounced 'Smay-ah-gol', not 'smee-gol' as it is in the film. but i thought that they were nagged very specifically about their pronunciation. i thinnk the speech-coaches must have made a little boo-bo....please write something if you disagree

Diamond18 · 01-09-2003, 12:24 PM

As to the pronounciation...I don't know if it's "correct" or not. But I always pronounced it Smeegol when I read the book. Trying to say Smay-ah-gol...sounds, pardon the negativity, stupid. I mean...say it. I know I can't do it without pausing. So I personnaly can't imagine Elijah having to say it without the audience gong, "Huh?"As to the picture, here is another one at the finding of the Ring, before he kills Déagol. You can compare the two:

Brinniel · 01-09-2003, 07:15 PM

Looks like you beat me at posting it, Diamond.

Here's a pic of Smeagol during his transformation (probably towards the end), for those who would like to know:

[ January 09, 2003: Message edited by: Brinniel ]

01-09-2003, 07:24 PM

Ugh, he looks like a zombie or something. Gross.

Davin · 01-09-2003, 11:51 PM

Where are you guys finding these pictures???

01-08-2003, 02:02 PM	#1
Davin Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 166	Picture Of Smeagol? I found this picture of Smeagol (or what I am assuming is Smeagol around the time when he first finds the ring) at <A HREF="http://www.serkis.com" TARGET=_blank>www.serkis.com</A> (Andy Serkis' Official Website) and I wanted to see if anybody else noticed it before and what you guys think about it.<P> <p>[ January 08, 2003: Message edited by: Davin ] __________________ So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. »»The Telmena««

01-08-2003, 02:08 PM	#2
Nibinlondwen Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 25	well, it doesnt look anything like a hobbit if you ask me. but it sure is serkis kind of picture. __________________ Aa' menle nauva calen ar' ta hwesta e'ale' quenle mellomin

01-08-2003, 02:11 PM	#3
Davin Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 166	It has pointyish ears...and Serkis didn't play an elf..so I am assuming it is supposed to be a hobbit. And the picture had text underneath saying it was <B>Smeagol/Gollum</B> from RotK... __________________ So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. »»The Telmena««

01-08-2003, 04:03 PM	#4
Deathwail Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Door of Night Posts: 99	Could be from after he had the ring for sometime and its effects where twisting him into the Gollum we all know and love __________________ He who arises in Might.

01-08-2003, 05:27 PM	#5
MLD-Grounds-Keeper-Willie Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 573	I don't know...and I don't like it if it is supposed to be Smeagol. I mean, he most certainly didn't looklike that before the ring or when he 'found' it. I hope they don't show this in RotK and say it's Smeagol. This guy kind of looks like Grima, sort of. __________________ Do Not Touch -Willie

01-08-2003, 08:02 PM	#6
Fingo Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Over the river and through the woods (literally) Posts: 59	I have the TT movie book, and that picture is in there under the part about creating Gollum but they don't explain it. I was wondering what that was though. Seems to me, even if it was labeled with RotK, it would be more of a TT extended scene. __________________ "We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers and discoverers- thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams."

01-09-2003, 12:20 AM	#7
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751	Well, I don't think Smeagol the Stoor picked up the One Ring and - POOF! - instantly became the bald, loincloth-wearing Stinker we all know and love. I would imagine that this is a pic of Smeagol undergoing a gradual transformation, perhaps after he has been cast out by his family and had been wandering in the Wilderness for awhile. <P>Maybe this is the moment when he decides to "take to the hills" and hide out under the mountains to escape from humankind and the skin-damaging rays of the Sun. Or maybe we're just seeing a really bad case of Ring-induced D.T.s. <p>[ January 09, 2003: Message edited by: Birdland ]

01-09-2003, 10:53 AM	#8
sparkle fairy Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: cumbria, england Posts: 21	i thought they said he was supposed to be a river person or something like that not a hobbit. I haven't read the book yet but in the film it says that. __________________ "Not all who wander are lost"

01-09-2003, 11:23 AM	#9
Atariel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Valimar Posts: 68	You know what... according to the pronunciation notes Smeagol should be pronounced 'Smay-ah-gol', not 'smee-gol' as it is in the film. but i thought that they were nagged very specifically about their pronunciation. i thinnk the speech-coaches must have made a little boo-bo....<P>please write something if you disagree __________________ Nai tiruvantel, ar varyuvantel i valar tielyanna nu vilya

01-09-2003, 12:24 PM	#10
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	As to the pronounciation...I don't know if it's "correct" or not. But I always pronounced it Smeegol when I read the book. Trying to say Smay-ah-gol...sounds, pardon the negativity, stupid. I mean...say it. I know I can't do it without pausing. So I personnaly can't imagine Elijah having to say it without the audience gong, "Huh?"<P>As to the picture, here is another one at the finding of the Ring, before he kills Déagol. You can compare the two:<P> __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

01-09-2003, 07:15 PM	#11
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	Looks like you beat me at posting it, Diamond. Here's a pic of Smeagol during his transformation (probably towards the end), for those who would like to know: [ January 09, 2003: Message edited by: Brinniel ] __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum Last edited by Brinniel; 07-13-2009 at 09:29 AM.

01-09-2003, 07:24 PM	#12
nevfeniel Guest Posts: n/a	Ugh, he looks like a zombie or something. Gross.

01-09-2003, 11:51 PM	#13
Davin Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 166	Where are you guys finding these pictures??? __________________ So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. »»The Telmena««