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The Sound of Middle-earth -> reading from LotR
I'm sick of having to learn tens of pages of chemistry stuff word by word, so I took a short break to haunt through the Downs.
As I clicked on the "Powerful Tolkien experiences" thread I immediately noticed a post by Estelyn remembering important Tolkien-related moments for her. A quote: Quote:
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The tech party is easy, Skype allows conferences with more people for example. So... I guess if there are takers we could get this going! I'm counting on your support! ![]()
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Using Skype is very easy. I can post a tutorial once enough people are interested.
A mic is however necessary, but they are really cheap these days.
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I'd love to do something like that. Would we go through the books or just choose selections? I think it'd be fun to go through the whole thing, although that might take a long time.
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Great minds, TM! Tolkien Reading Day is coming up soon, and I've posted a thread about possible ways to experience reading aloud together. Perhaps enough people can get together virtually to read next Thursday, or if that doesn't work well, the weekend right afterwards could be an opportunity.
A tutorial sounds like a great idea, but first it would be good to collect participants and find a time that will work for most of them despite time zones (including daylight time in North America). Go for it - and please share your experience afterwards! (By the way, I'm moving this thread to the Novices and Newcomers forum, where it will reach a maximum of interested readers.)
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I've now laid my hands on a mic.
It would be fun to do the whole book, but time constraints might indeed be an issue.
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Sounds cool! I don't have enough time to be actively arranging this, but if you decide to do this, I'd like to be in if it fits my timetables.
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starofthedunedain, I think we should first choose certain passages and if it all works well we can later on think about going through the books. But first definitely just a passage.
Esty, Tolkien Reading Day fits superbly with this idea. Hopefully it will work out until next Thursday. Before deciding on a passage, I think the number of people willing to participate needs to be determined, in order to know how many parts we can give away. I think we should try having the reading on the 25th, probably late evening for CET so that Northamericans can participate as well. So, to speed this up, anyone interested please fill out this simple form I've just thought of: Username: Role: (as in what race, or character type would best suit you, in order to come up with parts people are comfortable with) Time: (based on your schedule on the 25th next week - if you can plan ahead a bit that is, best would be based on CET to avoin confusion) For example: Username: The Might Role: Male, Gondorian/Rohirr or Orc, doubt I would be a good Elf/Wizard/Dwarf Time: no constrictions that I know of on the 25th Criticism and improvement ideas of the planned reading or the form are of course more than welcome! Now all we need are Downers!
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Incredibly interesting idea indeed. Well, I think the only downside from my part would be that I don't have Skype on this computer, for some reason I did not want to bother myself with it and just use MSN for calling home from Finland (as it serves equally well with good connection). Well, maybe if some fellow Finnish 'Downers had it
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Well... Skype would be great because it's reliable, easy to install and use and Skype audio conferences currently support up to 25 people at a time, including the host, which is about what we would need.
Other possibilites that I am aware of are Ventrilo and TeamSpeak, both of which I've used with my gamer pals. Ventrilo however only allows 8 people, not sure if TeamSpeak has any barriers. Biggest problem here is that unlike with Skype where everything is directed over their servers, in Vent and TS someone needs to set up their own server. Then he needs a good connection to set it up and everyone joins in... a bit more complicated than someone adding all the other downers on Skype and then adding each of them to the audio conference. I also don't see what downsides Skype could have.
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Great idea, TM! I haven't used Skype myself, but my wife does it all the time, chatting with her Tribal Wars friends; if I can persuade her to part with the mic for a few hours, I'd be glad to participate.
Username: Pitchwife Role: no preferences - I'm no judge of my own accent, but I'll try my best to handle whatever you throw at me Time: I'll probably be available from late afternoon to midnight according to my time (GMT+1), which should be six hours earlier, respectively, in CET, if I have it right. (This depends, however, on whether or not Lottie's imminent Werewolf game has started by then - I'm not much good at multitasking...)
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It would be nice if more people joined in!
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Assuming the technical, networking aspects are just a minor matter to the knowledgeable, I think I could do it. Like Pitch, the impending WW game may be a factor with me though.
User Name- Inziladun Role(s)- Dúnedain, the Mouth of Sauron(!), Rohirrim. I'm not sure about Elves, and I probably wouldn't do well as Hobbits. Time- 2300 GMT through about 0400, during the week. Weekends should be a bit more flexible.
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Does an "I really wish I could play" count...? What an awesome idea, and I'm really jealous that real life intervenes.
Can you record it as an MP3? I would love to hear it afterwards!
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I'm slightly concerned if I can participate or not... Because if we do it late European time (and especially Finnish time as we're one hour ahead of central Europe and two of Brits) I can't probably be talking aloud in this apartment 'cos my family members tend to go to sleep early. Of course, I could possibly go to Legate's place and make him use my skype too...
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So WW LXXIV has started by now, but unless I'm miscounting, Thursday evening will fall into a Night phase, so I should be able to participate after all (provided we don't start too late - I've got to get up at 5am GMT).
Any suggestions as to what passage we should pick? Depends on how many speakers we can reckon with, of course.
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Yay I think this idea sounds good! I'd also be willing to participate, but my Thursday is going to be quite busy as my last lecture ends at 6pm my time (gmt +2) and I've promised to see some friends around 9pm... So my participation depends on when you're going to do it.
Also, I use Skype on Linux and it's in some ways inferior to the Windows version as it lacks some features. I've never tried conference calls yet but I think it *should* work. And as for recording the call, is it possible to do it with the full Windows version? *raises hand* Seriously though it isn't a very big deal to install it (unless your computer is so crappy it can't run one more program ![]() Quote:
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About recording, yes, there are Skype add-ons for recording, have not used one so far, but if you we do the reading I'll install one and record the whole thing.
Hope this will work out. It appears that if we do this in the evening CET Aganzir, Lommy, Legate, Pitchwife and myself could join in. Maybe you could make it too Inziladun. Here's my idea, hope it sounds ok - what about a scene that also took place on the 23rd in Middle-earth? If several people join in we could do the Host of the West marching towards the Black Gate. If only two other persons happen to join we could do Frodo and Sam towards Mount Doom, one being the narrator. Tell me what you think of this.
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Possible selections: 1.)The parley with the Mouth of Sauron. Roles: Narrator, Mouth, Gandalf, Pippin (interior monologue). 2.) The Cracks of Doom. Roles: Narrator, Frodo, Sam, Gollum. 3.) The beginning of The Steward and the King up to the fall of Barad-dûr. Roles: Narrator, the Warden, Éowyn, Faramir, Eagle (doesn't have to be a countertenor ![]() I'd favour the latter, as it has a female role for Agan or Lommy. What d'ya think?
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If we manage to organise this, it would be brilliant
![]() I will talk to Lommy at least in person tomorrow, if she does not check this thread by then (which I assume she will anyway) and I guess we may just arrange it on our end along with Aganzir. I would be also for the latter one, as I think it's quite nice - although I would not be even that worried about female roles. I think the girls are adaptable at least ![]() As for me, of the people there I would for example enjoy the Warden, but I guess anybody can do that, or I could take the Eagle, if nobody wanted him (although it's a well open role). I have nothing in principle against the others either...
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Ok, that sounds good.
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Depending on the time, I'd quite like to do it.
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Ick!
I'm all for getting sleep Thursday-Friday night, so I'm not sure I can participate. Depends on the time, I guess, and the required arrangements. But if I participate, I can do any role - that was quite proven a few years ago when Brinn visited Finland and we did a little clip of the scene at the gates of Moria and somehow I ended up doing Boromir and Bill the Pony. ![]() So I think our prime requirement is just that we have as many roles as readers, which might be tricky because the number of readers seems to be unsure.
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I'm fine with anything, but the Steward & the King part sounds good, and I'd have nothing against being Éowyn, but yeah we're adaptable.
![]() However 16.30-19 gmt is the only time I'm available tomorrow unless my plans change... I'll let you know tomorrow. Haha Lommy I didn't know that clip still exists! ![]() ![]()
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Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to do it.
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So, role-wise: Agan - Éowyn Legate - Warden (what a pity - I'd looked forward to you and Lommy as Faramir and Éowyn ![]() The Might, Lommy (or Eönwë, if she can't?) and me - Narrator, Faramir, Eagle. You choose, I'll take what's left.
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I too think Legate and Lommy should do Faramir and Éowyn.
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...and what would you suggest I do, then?
![]() While I'm fine with being somebody else, too, I'm not entirely fond of first being allowed to choose and then told that people would like to see somebody else in that role. Anyway I think we could maybe take turns on being the narrator. I mean, that's a lot of text for one person. Another option is that there are two (or more) narrators, because if both Lommy and Eönwë can participate, we'll be short of one role.
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I can participate if we start at 7pm GMT at the earliest because I have work before that. But it'd be cool to be in. And if I can participate at 7, Aganzir can probably too, because we were just planning (or they were planning and I was sort of with it) to see a friend then in the evening, so maybe we can postpone meeting her a bit and have a reading session first...?
Like I said, I'm fine with any role, with the exception that if Agan is Éowyn I don't want to be Faramir. That would not be funny. ![]() So yeah, I can be (half of) the narrator or the eagle, if Legate wants to be the warden, Agan Éowyn and TM possibly Faramir...? (And I can be Éowyn if you insist but if Legate wants to be Warden and Agan wants to be Éowyn, I think it's better that way. ![]() If the narrator and the other people don't object, I think we can have it all read by one person, if we don't have enough people to do it otherwise. I think it's better if the characters don't have the same voices as the narrator. Speaking of which, what about lines like "said Faramir", shall we omit them, or shall the character's reader say them (the narrator saying them would be ewww-y if you ask me ![]() So, Eönwë, can you be around? Pitch (and Eönwë), do you have any preferences about roles? And once more about the timetables, would you think 7pm GMT is ok? I'll try to follow this thread or at least have Legate or Aganzir inform me while I'm at work or something...
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Exactly, the timing is good (and I believe for everybody at least of us Finns that way), I am at the university up to 4 PM GMT if I'm counting right, but free after that.
I think if we have many people, it will be the best that two people could share the narrator's post. I would still like the Warden the most of all. Honestly I don't think I would make a good Faramir.
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If we're doing this at 7pm GMT, Greenie's also going to be around and she can do any role if we need, or just amuse us by reading some poem or something.
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Online too.
I'm fine with Agan being Éowyn, of course (actually, having heard her talk, I must say she'll be perfect) - the other was just an idea. As to choice of role, I don't really have a preference - I could be one of the narrators, or the Eagle, as long as you don't expect me to sing. I'll even try my luck at Faramir, if TM should be averse to doing it and you won't mind the Steward sounding a wee bit Germanish. ![]() And I'm pitchwife62 on Skype. So where is everybody?
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It's Pitch, Lommy, Greenie, Legate and me now, and we thought about starting half past (in a minute). If somebody is around NOW and would like to join, you're welcome to do so (add me: scavengerlikeme).
Sorry Might but Lommy and I can't hang around here the whole evening...
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Okay we got it done now and I must say it was a lot of fun even though for me it wasn't probably as exciting as it would've been if I hadn't known anybody in advance: as it is, Pitch was the only one whose voice I hadn't heard previously.
In the end I was Éowyn, Pitch Faramir, Legate the Warden, Greenie the Eagle and Lommy the narrator (assuming I didn't get the sisters' voices mixed up), and everybody did a great job. And we didn't get it recorded because all of us are quite new to Skype and didn't bother to go through all the trouble. I'll have to leave now, just thought I'd share this with you. ![]() And we'll have to do more of these, really.
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No problem, happy to see this all worked out well in the end.
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