Arwen's People? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Boffer · 07-05-2002, 10:07 AM

Ok. It mentions several times in LOTR that Arwen is the "Evenstar of her people." Well here's my question...Who are "her" people? And what does it mean to be the "Evenstar" of her people anyways?

Kuruharan · 07-05-2002, 11:01 AM

Arwen's people were the Elves.

Evenstar is a fancy was of saying 'evening star.' She is called the Evenstar of her people because she will be the last great princess born to the Elves in Middle earth, the last star of her people. This is also a comparison to Luthien because Luthien (I believe) was known as the Morning Star of her people.

Arwen was also similar to Luthien in that she shared a similar fate.

GreatWarg · 07-05-2002, 11:57 AM

Welcome to the Barrow-Downs Boffer! Enjoy being dead, and post often!

Arwen was daughter of Elrond, son of Earendil... I won't go one forever after that... ^^ Anyways, Arwen was of ELven-kind, a half-elf actually, and as long as ELrond stayed on Middle-earth, then she would live the life span of an Elf. Half-elves, as Elrond and Elros were, were given the choice by the Valar on either Elven life or the Doom of Men. Arwen and Luthien both chose the Doom of Men. (Not to mention Elros.) Arwen walked in the likeness of Luthien, and was actually akin to Luthien. ^^

Elrian · 07-05-2002, 05:59 PM

It was the name given to Arwen be ause she was the most beatiful Elven lady in the fading yearsz of the Elves in Middle-Earth. The Eldar would be the people, particularly those in Rivendell.

Boffer · 07-05-2002, 09:18 PM

ok. got it. I wish they'd be a little more explanatory in the books.

Aldagrim Proudfoot · 07-06-2002, 08:00 AM

You just have to know where to find it. (Don't worry, I don't)

07-05-2002, 10:07 AM	#1
Boffer Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Student Posts: 18	Arwen's People? Ok. It mentions several times in LOTR that Arwen is the "Evenstar of her people." Well here's my question...Who are "her" people? And what does it mean to be the "Evenstar" of her people anyways?

07-05-2002, 11:01 AM	#2
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,589	Arwen's people were the Elves. Evenstar is a fancy was of saying 'evening star.' She is called the Evenstar of her people because she will be the last great princess born to the Elves in Middle earth, the last star of her people. This is also a comparison to Luthien because Luthien (I believe) was known as the Morning Star of her people. Arwen was also similar to Luthien in that she shared a similar fate. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

07-05-2002, 11:57 AM	#3
GreatWarg Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: East of the Misty Mountains Posts: 339	Welcome to the Barrow-Downs Boffer! Enjoy being dead, and post often! Arwen was daughter of Elrond, son of Earendil... I won't go one forever after that... ^^ Anyways, Arwen was of ELven-kind, a half-elf actually, and as long as ELrond stayed on Middle-earth, then she would live the life span of an Elf. Half-elves, as Elrond and Elros were, were given the choice by the Valar on either Elven life or the Doom of Men. Arwen and Luthien both chose the Doom of Men. (Not to mention Elros.) Arwen walked in the likeness of Luthien, and was actually akin to Luthien. ^^ __________________ "What shall we do, what shall we do!" he cried. "Escaping goblins to be caught be wolves!"

07-05-2002, 05:59 PM	#4
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	It was the name given to Arwen be ause she was the most beatiful Elven lady in the fading yearsz of the Elves in Middle-Earth. The Eldar would be the people, particularly those in Rivendell. __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

07-06-2002, 08:00 AM	#6
Aldagrim Proudfoot Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 328	You just have to know where to find it. (Don't worry, I don't) __________________ I do not suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it!

07-05-2002, 09:18 PM	#5
Boffer Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Student Posts: 18	ok. got it. I wish they'd be a little more explanatory in the books.