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Viggo should be more excited!
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The Review Journal caught up with actor Viggo Mortensen at CineVegas and got this juicy quote about his interest in ‘The Hobbit’ films: Mortensen also said he would like to replay the “Lord of the Rings” part of Aragorn in future “Hobbit” movies that have been announced by “Rings” director Peter Jackson. “I’d rather not have another actor play the part I started out playing for Peter Jackson. And I had a lot of friends from that experience,” he said. That's all the guy has to say? He played ARAGORN, one of the most beloved characters of all time in the best story of all time. Call me crazy, but if I played Aragorn in the trilogy, my reaction would be a little more enthused. Just because he made a bunch of friends and he had the role first...that is his reasoning? Man, some of these actors don't know how lucky they are! (In my opinion)!
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Maybe he knows Aragorn is not in TH, so he is not to excited about the idea? Just a thought, I would be quite mad if I played a character in some books and then for the prequel for the books the character was not in it, and the director was going to cast me to fill a role that wasn't even there in the first place.
Anyway, maybe Viggo isn't too excited...
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Same old, same old..
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''Viggo, the hook is: this is Aragorn ... before he turned all kingly and goody-goody. That's right: EVIL STRIDER!!!!''
Now that would be an exciting role for him. Wouldn't please the Tolkien purists but I do believe most of them have given up on the films anyway. ![]()
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Viggo Mortensen is a professional actor. He earns his living from acting in movies. He has an agent who negotiates his contracts. Do you really expect a savvy professional to wear his heart upon his sleeve and gush like the proverbial schoolgirl at the chance to be in another film? He did the right thing by announcing his willingness and now will sit back and let the principals work things out to his benefit.
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Viggo is also a very understated guy.
Still, I can't help but think that with an Oscar nomination under his belt he might think a mass-market popcorn movie something of a step backwards...warring, of course, with a natural possessiveness of the character.
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Mortensen is also an artist/photographer, poet etc.. I don't know if he is the kind of artist whose work) commands a fortune (or if it does so more than in part due to his acting fame) and I don't think many people make much out of poetry (though Tolkien's Bombadil was an exception that proves the rule). But one way or another he surely is in the lucky position to choose the work he does and has plenty of ways to occupy his time when not acting.
And though he is clearly remarkably fit he is in his fiftieth year and will have to play his character younger, ten years later. All told, it isn't a total no-brainer that he would want to reprise the role.
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I have to agree, Viggo's reaction isn't all that surprising. I want to add on to WCH's comment:
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Going back to Mortensen and Daniel Day Lewis, because I asked why isn't DDL in more movies? He is a phenomenal actor, and one of the most desired actors in the business. But, DDL will not cave in to the hollywood pressure of becoming overused. He will give it his all in every role he accepts, but it's going to be a character DDL wants to play, and he wants to make sure it's worth all the effort. After watching Viggo in History of Violence, LOTR, Eastern Promises, I asked why isn't he in more movies? As much as I want to see Viggo (and DDL) in more movies, they are going to take a role they want to play, and make sure their efforts are worth it. Now, I'm not saying The Hobbit is going to be a crap Hollywood film, because there is tons of potential for it. This could be a great film, just as LOTR was a great film, but as TheGreatElvenWarrior said, before Viggo gets gung-ho about playing Aragorn, he will have to know how big of a role Aragorn will be in the films. I can't blame him for that. Chris Lee boycotted the ROTK premiere, because he found out his scenes were cut from the movie. When asked if he was going to go to the premiere, he pretty much said "No, what's the point?" And I don't blame Chris Lee for that either. He committed his time, talents, and effort into playing a role he was asked to play, only to find out his character was axed from the film. That's got to be aggravating for any actor. I can imagine Viggo wanting to know if he agrees to return as Aragorn, and he takes the time to commit himself completely to the role (as he so excellently did in the LOTR films) will he get the Chris Lee treatment? Is it going to be worth the effort? That's not any kind of snobishness from Viggo, that's just a sensible actor who wants to make to make sure the effort he puts into acting isn't wasted.
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Yeah, yeah, whatever. I would be more excited to play such a character, even if it was for the second time.
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And you also love the books too, which means that you have more of an attachment to them and the character than Viggo. Maybe viggo wants something new?
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Strange as it may seem, I find myself agreeing in principle with Sauron the White's point about Mortensen's comment. Mortensen doesn't need to sell himself through his own hype, which is a refreshing tone and style in the overblown world of blockbuster actors. He's too cool a guy to gush.
Well, there is also that tooth that he broke during a stunt for LotR, isn't there? I suppose it will have to be capped for authenticity's sake if he is to appear as a younger Aragorn, unless it is broken as part of the newly written part of Aragorn for the bridge movie, maybe in a fist fight. Imagine Arwen being solicitous about such damage.
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So if you're not cool, you gush? I don't get it. It doesn't matter if people do not agree with me, that's fine - but just because Viggo is a "cool guy" - and I'm sure he is - doesn't mean he can't show a little excitement. I just feel this way because I love Tolkien and I can't imagine why somebody wouldn't seem a little more excited about playing such a beloved character, again. Maybe he doesn't realize how lucky he is?
Oh well, dead end convo, it's really no big deal at all, I just thought it was an interesting remark.
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Hey MM, what's up?
![]() This is the entertainment business, where it doesn't always pay to wear your heart on your sleeve. Sometimes, playing hard to get is in your best interest. I'm also sure that Viggo's agent would caution him against emotional displays at this point. Imagine that he gushes about it, then they end offering the part to someone younger, then he looks like an idiot and gossip columnists bring it up for at least a week (and it goes into his file, and everyone who writes a story on him from now until doomsday may mention it). Viggo is also... different. A friend of mine did an interview with him and the report on him is that he really is a very calm, chilled-out guy. So it makes sense.
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Vigo sucks. On the EE DVDs there is this interview with the actors and he said that he wouldn't have taken the role if his son didn't make him, because Vigo had never read LotR but his son had. That alone makes me not like him.
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He's an actor.
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Assuming this isn't a DNFTT situation...
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Unless you just dislike everyone who hasn't read the book? A little excessive surely? Not everyone gets it... their loss, have compassion.
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Hmmm...I liked Viggo far better in History of Violence and Eastern Promises. He was a rather weak Aragorn in my estimation. I could care less if he is replaced in The Hobbit Deux. It wouldn't be hard to explain away a replacement, actually, particularly since the role calls for Aragorn to be decades younger. I would think retaining Liv Tyler as Arwen would be far more germane to the movie, considering Arwen would be unchanged, whereas Aragorn would be drastically younger.
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Under Guillermo's talented direction, Viggo could very well become everything Aragorn was meant to be. I wouldn't hold my breath, but it's possible.
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Physically Viggo was perfect for the role of Aragorn, especially facially and the way he had his hair hang - exactly how I envisaged (and hoped) after reading the books.
However, the only problem I had with Viggo was his voice/accent. It just wasn't all that commanding or powerful enough to be honest. For example there was the scene in ROTK where he tells the captain of the Corsair Ships "You may go no furher. You may not enter Gondor!" But it was delivered in such a feeble & washed-out way that I wasn't convinced this guy was going to the King of anything. The other example from the same film was the scene where he spoke to King Of The Dead first time around. The King says "The dead do not suffer the living", Aragorn replies with "You will suffer me!" But again the commanding booming delivery just wasn't there and kind of diminished the power of Aragorn in my eyes as much as I love Viggo
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Well Viggo isn't really tall or dark enough to match the book description for me but he had such a strong physicality and was similar enough to Bean and Wenham to create the illusion of a shared heritage that I think the casting worked.
However, this is the online version of an interview I read in the paper the other day which may be of relevance to this thread. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main...fmorten126.xml
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He's very interesting, but not my picture of 'regal'.
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I dunno. Just from material on the EEs and various interviews over the years, Viggo strikes me as a man of few words. I think that as a seasoned man of the business, he's not going to get his hopes up now about playing Aragorn again. He knows that tt's too early in the process, and anything could happen.
He seemed to really love playing Aragorn once things got started. So I think he'd probably like to take another stab at the role, should it come up. Also, he may not want to come on too strong. Life in Hollywood is a lot of politics. And perhaps appearing a little "cool" might help him get a better deal with the role instead of just getting offered less than he could make because he's clearly excited. I don't know if Viggo is the kind of guy who is motivated by money or not, but he probably doesn't want to get gypped all the same. I think his response was appropriate. Also, maybe I'm in the minority, but I really liked him a lot as Aragorn. He looked right, and he had the right "feel" to him--earthy and a little bit dangerous...but also that there was more to him than met the eye.
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As others have said, I believe he's just weighing his outcomes and the possible inclination of being in TH, it appears as a tricky decision, no doubt. ~ Ka
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If Viggo's not interested,
you want irony? How about casting Peter Townsend as a young Aragorn! ![]()
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The possibility of becoming typecast is irrelevant for Mortensen as he is planning on retiring very soon anyway. What a better way to go out than by reprising his most famous role!
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But that doesn't mean it was his favorite. He's pretty dedicated to his craft. I'd think he'd be more interested in portraying a more powerful role as his last role than simply reprising his role from the LOTR franchise.
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I guess it is possible but it isn't as if he spends his days watching daytime TV when he isn't on set... he may find the painting, writing and photography artistic fulfilment enough - and one where he has contol without having to make compromises with the studio paymasters and deal with those temperamental brutes, actors.
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He wants to do art and stuff.
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