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If you could have taken the place of any one of the Travelers in the Hobbit. Would you have? Which one's place would you have taken?
I'll tell you who I would have taken. Thorin Oakenshield. He was the man. I mean he was a leader among dwarves. He was battle-ready at all times and was always ready to chop some Orcs head off. I can think of no other person in the Hobbit that I would rather be. He died for his cause and thats why I respect him so much. So what about you? What do you say?
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I'll take the easiest one...

Gandalf...
Lets see he made a burglar and a hero out of a hobbit, made events move so that Smaug would be taken out of the picture should Sauron ever rise again, chased Sauron out of Dol Guldur and was there to narrate the whole battle of 5 armies scene (Look its the Eagles!). It was a pretty productive year he had there, and I forgot to mention that he slew 3 trolls and the king of the Orcs. He also started to get a heads up on Bilbos little ring.
Plus it would be cool to be able to remember life as a maiar back in the Undying Lands.

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Re: I'll take the obvious one...

Bilbo, because he had the adventure of a lifetime! he was having tea and smoking his pipe when up walked a wizard.

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Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-31-2000, 11:46 PM

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Re: I agree

I have to agree with 'The Westward Road' (?) on this one. Also, I would be pretty nifty to be in possesion of Narya, the Ring of Fire, one of the Three, and have such great powers and respect. And, later, he departs over sea to Aman to become a Maia once more.

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Re: I agree

I also am in Gwaihir's camp -although I would never want the fate of Middle-Earth to hang on my diligence!
Thranduil would be my third and Elrond second. At the risk of a whole new thread; Gwaihir I have a hard time seeing that Gandalf ceased being a Maia when in Middle-Earth that took on limitations and had to forgo some of his powers is clear.Melian even though she married [as no other Maia is said to have done {leaving the Bombadil question aside<img src=smile.gif ALT="

"> } is never as I recall mentioned as anything other than retaining her original 'race'.Her title is always Melian the Maia.
Indeed the first paragraph of the chapter on the sindar in the 1977 Silmarillion is devoted to how Melian lifted the Elves of her and Thingol's realm to the highest of any community of Elves outside of Valinor.

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Re:ummmm

I thought we were supposed to trade places with one of the traverlers from the hobbit. also Gandalf did not possess Narya yet.

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Well, Gandalf was definitely in The Hobbit. In fact, he was responsible for the entire adventure. And he did posess the Ring Narya already during that journey. He recieved it from Cirdan the Shipwright when he arrived in Middle-Earth around the year T.A. 1000. The Hobbit took place in 2941-2, almost 2000 years after Gandalf got Narya.

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Wizard of the Secret Fire · 08-01-2000, 04:32 PM

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I agree with Road, Gandalf!!!!

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Your right wight, I forgot about cirdan giving him the ring because it has been so long since I read th Sil. In the hobbit it is not mentioned.

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Gwaihir the Windlord · 08-01-2000, 10:54 PM

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Actually, Lindil, I didn't mean what I said. Gandalf was still a Maia, of course, during his time in Middle-Earth, as can be seen when he dies and then returns to life the next day by the Dimrill Stair. Maybe I should have said that Gandalf will make it known to all that he is a Maia in Valinor. Elrond, Galadrial etc, and the other Ainur of Aman will know of course, but some of the elves and the hovvits will not.

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Besides being Gandalf, I would prefer being Thorin. I mean, sure, he was stubborn with the treasure and all... but who wouldn't? Besides, Thorin had some kind of... heroism and bravery and all, and i admire that.

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Being Gandalf would be cool.

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I've never been one for delusions of grandeur. Give me delusions of dinner (and make me Bombur). Plus rope rides. Excellent rope rides!

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Child of the 7th Age · 08-11-2002, 01:06 PM

This looks like an ancient, but fun, thread. I couldn't resist being Bilbo. First, I love hobbits. Second, of all the characters in the book, he is the one who grew and matured the most. The Bilbo at the end of the book is extremely different than the one at the beginning.

Bilbo is called upon to show mercy, understanding, and even a bit of burglary, and he excels at them all, despite the initial skepticism of the dwarves.

If you look at UT, you really get a sense of what an adventurous young hobbit he'd been, and how he'd lost much of that until Gandalf came along to set him on the road again to chasing after Elves. And look at all I'd have to look forward to in the future--adopting Frodo, visits from the dwarves, a great send off from the Shire, living in Rivendell, and finally the Blessed Lands--a little of everything.

sharon, the 7th age hobbit

Road Dog22 · 08-11-2002, 03:10 PM

thorin because he was the king of the dwarves

Ms. Took · 08-12-2002, 12:18 AM

i'd want to be bilbo.

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Bilbo, because he had the adventure of a lifetime!

I agree. I'd be Bilbo. Also he got to riddle with Gollum!

Merri · 08-12-2002, 08:14 AM

I don't think I'd like to be Gandalf, Frodo, or Strider, because those three have the most to worry about (not that the other travelers don't have anything to worry about, I realize they do). Gandalf's powerful, but he has to watch out for the hobbits. The same with Strider. Frodo has those ringwraiths after him . . . so I think I'd like to be Legolas, or Pippin, or Merry.

Davin · 08-12-2002, 08:18 AM

I think I'd settle with Gandalf. Or..if at all possible, I would be Smaug, and I'd put on a huge mythril shirt...just to be safe.

The Silver-shod Muse · 08-12-2002, 09:09 AM

This is an old thread! It predates my death by some two years.

The magnificent Thorin Oakenshield, of course.

Durialion · 08-12-2002, 05:45 PM

I would probally be Gandalf too. He has magic and he never got in much danger besides the Goblins. So I would be Gandalf.

Shadowstrife911 · 08-12-2002, 06:05 PM

Gollum because eventually he would save all of Middle-Earth by destroying the one ring! (despite how ironic it was)

Guildo · 08-15-2002, 02:36 PM

Withought a doubt my Favorite character in the Hobbit was none other than the all might Beorn. HE WAS THEE MAN

07-31-2000, 04:07 PM	#1
TolkAff Guest Posts: n/a	If you Could.... <font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Newly Deceased Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> If you could have taken the place of any one of the Travelers in the Hobbit. Would you have? Which one's place would you have taken? I'll tell you who I would have taken. Thorin Oakenshield. He was the man. I mean he was a leader among dwarves. He was battle-ready at all times and was always ready to chop some Orcs head off. I can think of no other person in the Hobbit that I would rather be. He died for his cause and thats why I respect him so much. So what about you? What do you say? Always, <html><center><font face="verdana" color="gold" size="2">=====TolkAff===== I am usually at http://www.tolkaff.cjb.net</a> Or you can find my writings here: http://pub21.ezboard.com/btolkiensiteaffiliationTolkien Site Affiliation Discussion Room</a> </center></html></p>

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lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: I agree I also am in Gwaihir's camp -although I would never want the fate of Middle-Earth to hang on my diligence! Thranduil would be my third and Elrond second. At the risk of a whole new thread; Gwaihir I have a hard time seeing that Gandalf ceased being a Maia when in Middle-Earth that took on limitations and had to forgo some of his powers is clear.Melian even though she married [as no other Maia is said to have done {leaving the Bombadil question aside<img src=smile.gif ALT=""> } is never as I recall mentioned as anything other than retaining her original 'race'.Her title is always Melian the Maia. Indeed the first paragraph of the chapter on the sindar in the 1977 Silmarillion is devoted to how Melian lifted the Elves of her and Thingol's realm to the highest of any community of Elves outside of Valinor. </p>Edited by <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000076>lindil</A> at: 8/8/00 2:19:41 am __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.

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*The Barrow-Wight* Night In Wight Satin Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,043	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wraith of Angmar Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/narya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Re:ummmm Well, Gandalf was definitely in The Hobbit. In fact, he was responsible for the entire adventure. And he did posess the Ring Narya already during that journey. He recieved it from Cirdan the Shipwright when he arrived in Middle-Earth around the year T.A. 1000. The Hobbit took place in 2941-2, almost 2000 years after Gandalf got Narya. The Barrow-Wight (RKittle) <font size="2">I usually haunt http://www.barrowdowns.comThe Barrow-Downs</a> and The Barrow-Downs http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgiMiddle-Earth Discussion Board</a>.</p> __________________ The Barrow-Wight

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Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	This looks like an ancient, but fun, thread. I couldn't resist being Bilbo. First, I love hobbits. Second, of all the characters in the book, he is the one who grew and matured the most. The Bilbo at the end of the book is extremely different than the one at the beginning. Bilbo is called upon to show mercy, understanding, and even a bit of burglary, and he excels at them all, despite the initial skepticism of the dwarves. If you look at UT, you really get a sense of what an adventurous young hobbit he'd been, and how he'd lost much of that until Gandalf came along to set him on the road again to chasing after Elves. And look at all I'd have to look forward to in the future--adopting Frodo, visits from the dwarves, a great send off from the Shire, living in Rivendell, and finally the Blessed Lands--a little of everything. sharon, the 7th age hobbit __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

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The Westward Road Guest Posts: n/a	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Newly Deceased Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> I'll take the easiest one... Gandalf... Lets see he made a burglar and a hero out of a hobbit, made events move so that Smaug would be taken out of the picture should Sauron ever rise again, chased Sauron out of Dol Guldur and was there to narrate the whole battle of 5 armies scene (Look its the Eagles!). It was a pretty productive year he had there, and I forgot to mention that he slew 3 trolls and the king of the Orcs. He also started to get a heads up on Bilbos little ring. Plus it would be cool to be able to remember life as a maiar back in the Undying Lands. The Westward Road Only in the West does your hope lay. </p>

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dogtrot Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 47	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Newly Deceased Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: I'll take the obvious one... Bilbo, because he had the adventure of a lifetime! he was having tea and smoking his pipe when up walked a wizard. </p>

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Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: I agree I have to agree with 'The Westward Road' (?) on this one. Also, I would be pretty nifty to be in possesion of Narya, the Ring of Fire, one of the Three, and have such great powers and respect. And, later, he departs over sea to Aman to become a Maia once more. </p>

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dogtrot Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 47	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Newly Deceased Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re:ummmm I thought we were supposed to trade places with one of the traverlers from the hobbit. also Gandalf did not possess Narya yet. </p>

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Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/narya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Maia Actually, Lindil, I didn't mean what I said. Gandalf was still a Maia, of course, during his time in Middle-Earth, as can be seen when he dies and then returns to life the next day by the Dimrill Stair. Maybe I should have said that Gandalf will make it known to all that he is a Maia in Valinor. Elrond, Galadrial etc, and the other Ainur of Aman will know of course, but some of the elves and the hovvits will not. </p>

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Gandalf12 Guest Posts: n/a	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Newly Deceased Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/narya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: I think this is obvious... Besides being Gandalf, I would prefer being Thorin. I mean, sure, he was stubborn with the treasure and all... but who wouldn't? Besides, Thorin had some kind of... heroism and bravery and all, and i admire that. </p>

08-03-2000, 04:00 PM	#13
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08-11-2002, 03:10 PM	#16
Road Dog22 Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 16	thorin because he was the king of the dwarves

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Merri Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Shire Posts: 221	I don't think I'd like to be Gandalf, Frodo, or Strider, because those three have the most to worry about (not that the other travelers don't have anything to worry about, I realize they do). Gandalf's powerful, but he has to watch out for the hobbits. The same with Strider. Frodo has those ringwraiths after him . . . so I think I'd like to be Legolas, or Pippin, or Merry. __________________ Knowledge is just opinion that you trust enough to act upon. -Children of the Mind, by Orson Scott Card.

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Davin Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 166	I think I'd settle with Gandalf. Or..if at all possible, I would be Smaug, and I'd put on a huge mythril shirt...just to be safe. __________________ So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. »»The Telmena««

08-12-2002, 09:09 AM	#21
The Silver-shod Muse Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The shoulder of a poet, TX Posts: 388	This is an old thread! It predates my death by some two years. The magnificent Thorin Oakenshield, of course. __________________ "'You," he said, "tell her all. What good came to you? Do you rejoice that Maleldil became a man? Tell her of your joys, and of what profit you had when you made Maleldil and death acquainted.'" -Perelandra, by C.S. Lewis

08-12-2002, 05:45 PM	#22
Durialion Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 42	I would probally be Gandalf too. He has magic and he never got in much danger besides the Goblins. So I would be Gandalf. __________________ Durialion the High Elf "I wish the ring had never come to me and this adventure had never happened." Frodo "So do all who live to see these times, but you have to decide what to do when the time comes." Gandalf

08-12-2002, 06:05 PM	#23
Shadowstrife911 Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 30	Gollum because eventually he would save all of Middle-Earth by destroying the one ring! (despite how ironic it was) __________________ "It needs more to make a king than a piece of elvish glass, or a rabble such as this." -the Mouth of Sauron

08-15-2002, 02:36 PM	#24
Guildo Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Forgoten lands of the South Posts: 119	Withought a doubt my Favorite character in the Hobbit was none other than the all might Beorn. HE WAS THEE MAN __________________ "You cant always get what you want.... But if you try sometimes you just my find.... you get what you need." Glen Sight