LOTR Cartoon - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Bad Fairy · 02-05-2002, 09:42 AM

Having read earlier posts (in particular one by Rosa Underhill) I was wondering what people opinions are on the cartoon version of LOTR.I have read the books now and seen FOTR twice and would like to know if anyone would recomend hiring this out ?? thanks [ February 05, 2002: Message edited by: Bad Fairy ]

Jjudvven · 02-05-2002, 10:19 AM

No. I saw it years ago, and still remember it as being pathetic. Don't do it.

Elanor · 02-05-2002, 02:03 PM

Eek! I still have memories of myself, aged 8, dragging my father out of the cinema, wailing because the story wasn't right. BOO!! Nassty cartoon, we hatess it, yess we do!

Bruce MacCulloch · 02-05-2002, 03:17 PM

What? No one liked the infamous slippered Balrog?

Rosa Underhill · 02-06-2002, 05:56 AM

"The Hobbit" cartoon was one of the highlights of my young life. Being done by the same folks, I can only hope that "The Return of the King" is as good. But "The Lord of the Rings": no.It was horrid! I almost stopped reading the books after seeing it, it was that bad. (Thankfully, that didn't happen.) It spoiled so many awesome surprises for me. If you really wanna know just how bad it is, someone took the time to write a detailed review of the film, critiquing every last, wretched detail. It's right <A HREF="http://flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/bakshi/bakshi.htm" TARGET=_blank>here</A>. Check it for no other reason than to get a good laugh. (The review, not the film. That was so bad it wasn't even funny.)

Rosa Underhill · 02-06-2002, 06:00 AM

I believe Frodo describes this film best right here. Poor little Hobbit, he didn't deserve all that on top of everything else he had to go through... Intriguingly, Frodo turns away from Gandalf and looks directly into the camera, his eyes curiously tortured and beseeching. It's almost as if he's saying to the audience: "Please, please find a way to get me out of this ludicrous movie."

Bad Fairy · 02-06-2002, 06:14 AM

*LOL* Well, what with that review and the other postings here (inc. poor Frodo's deperate plea)........ I think I'll give it a miss Thanx everyone[ February 06, 2002: Message edited by: Bad Fairy ]

02-12-2002, 02:07 AM

Oh mi god!! That critic thing that rosa underhill sent is Halarius! (sorry cant spell it properly !). But I have never ever heard of that cartoon. When did it come out?

Bruce MacCulloch · 02-12-2002, 02:18 AM

The Ralph Bakshi animated movie came out in 1978. It only goes so far as the Battle of Helm's Deep. In 1980 Rankin/Bass (the same guys that did the animated Hobbit and Rudolph) made an animated movie The Return of the King. It's actually worse than Bakshi's, if that's at all possible. The whole concept of the people that did Frosty the Snowman doing anything based on Tolkien is just wrong.[ February 12, 2002: Message edited by: Bruce MacCulloch ][ February 12, 2002: Message edited by: Bruce MacCulloch ]

Rosa Underhill · 02-12-2002, 03:15 AM

Is the RotK cartoon really that bad? Drat, and I just won it on eBay for eight bucks! Well, so long as the same voice actor who did Sam in the LotR cartoon isn't in it, I still don't think it could be that bad. Honestly, I love Sam, really I do, but everytime he opened his mouth during that wretched film I wanted someone to shut him up! Ugh, that lisp was horrible and unnecessary! *shudder*

Glenethor · 02-12-2002, 03:22 AM

I saw the RoTK cartoon a long time ago. It made no lasting impression on me, although I do remember the line 'where there's a whip there's a way, my slugs!' or something like that. I hated Gollum's voice in the cartoon. Not really the voice, but the fact that he'd utter 'gollum' as a word, when I have always perceived it as some sort of involuntary sub-vocalization. Yeah, Sam was a little goofy. They all looked a little too cute. Almost Disneyish.

02-12-2002, 09:17 AM

The one thing I remember about the Bakshi film was that the pupils of the character's eyes seemed to "drift" alot. Some kind of flaw in the animation process I guess. Anyway, it looked like Frodo and Sam were having petite mal seizures half the time. Oh, yeah, and the gore. Peter Jackson gonna have to really go over the top in Two Towers if he wants to beat Bakshi's animated gore.

Araen · 02-13-2002, 08:57 AM

I recal being a little eight year old sitting in class and them telling me that they were going to show The Hobbit. I was all happy because I had just read the book. Well a hour or so later I was being dragged out of the room yelling about how bloody auful the film was. They thought I had gone crazy because I stared talking in an english accent and useing english type words. I got in a lot of troubel.... don't see it. The story was butered.

Rosa Underhill · 02-13-2002, 10:33 AM

I very much enjoyed the Rankin/Bass "Hobbit" cartoon. Bashi's LotR, well...see above.Disney-ish, aye, but I think they're a bit more unique than Disney would've had them. I read an article that scared me greatly once; it was talking about how close Disney had come to having the rights to LotR. *shudder* I'm so glad New Line and PJ got it!

Araen · 02-13-2002, 10:48 AM

Disney? Nooooooooooo that would be incredably scary, like Sauron getting the one ring scary.........

Rosa Underhill · 02-13-2002, 11:48 AM

I can see the Hobbits all grouped together singing some really cheesy song now... And Disney probably would give Rose a bigger part and some hideous sob-song about how much she misses Sam and Sam himself would be a really dopey sidekcik... *shudder, twitch*

Araen · 02-13-2002, 11:51 AM

::Pictures a snowhite like movie:: That would be veeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry sad.....

Glenethor · 02-13-2002, 12:59 PM

Hi Ho, Hi Ho, to Barad-Dur we go! There are a few scenes that are ok in the cartoon. Ha! The Mouse has had numerous opportunities over the years to get its claws on LOTR but passed everytime. We are fortunate that some suit looked at the idea, and said 'why not do three movies instead of one or two?' 'Here's a garbage bag of $1,000.00 bills, go to it! Get back to me when it's done Pete 'ol boy!' What a trip the last couple of years must've been for all involved. Jeez...

02-13-2002, 01:55 PM

I thought the cartoon was pretty good.and the movie was great.although both didn't really keep to the book.

02-13-2002, 01:57 PM

Hey ya know what would be cool.If the made a movie in to the hobbit.

Tarlondeion Of Gondolin · 02-13-2002, 02:19 PM

Someone gave me the cartoon on video for my birthday, but to the tell the truth it was really crap. They pronounced Sauron, Sawron (or something like that) wrong and they called Saruman, Aruman. It was terrible all the places looked totally different to their descriptions in the book. My overall opinion was that it was absolutley TERRIBLE!!!

02-13-2002, 03:51 PM

Hy folks!Sorry, just wanted to see if my picture works...! Thank's a lot!

Rosa Underhill · 02-13-2002, 04:57 PM

Why do hobbits always have afros in the cartoons?...Oh, I figured it out! If anyone else thinks Schmendrick from "The Last Unicorn" looks kinda hobbit-like, it turns out that Rankin/Bass ("The Hobbit" and "Return of the King" cartoons) did this film too! Check it out!<A HREF="http://null" TARGET=_blank>http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/tolkien/rotk-1-4054-break-free-2.jpg</A>

Rosa Underhill · 02-13-2002, 05:02 PM

Sorry, I goofed above. Hopefully this will work. Compare Schmendrick's face to Sam and Frodo's faces.And here's one more reason not to like the LotR caroon by Bakshi: He's got no foot fur! I mean, come on, that's an essential part of being a hobbit!

Birdland · 02-14-2002, 12:46 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rosa Underhill: Why do hobbits always have afros in the cartoons?...Oh, I figured it out! If anyone else thinks Schmendrick from "The Last Unicorn" looks kinda hobbit-like, it turns out that Rankin/Bass ("The Hobbit" and "Return of the King" cartoons) did this film too!]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> We're both right Rosa. Raskin/Bass did the voice and script work, and the Japanse studio Topcraft did the actual animation. By the 80's it was far cheaper to ship the animation jobs overseas. I'm betting the Hobbit and RoTK were given the same treatment. Credit (or blame) where credit is due.As for Disney and LOTR; don't even mention that in my hearing. I still haven't forgiven Disney for what they did to The Jungle Book!

Birdland · 02-14-2002, 12:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rosa Underhill: Why do hobbits always have afros in the cartoons?...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 'Cause it was 1978! We ALL had afros back then!

Rosa Underhill · 02-14-2002, 03:07 AM

Y'know, I'm trying to envision an non-existent being with an afro and it just isn't working... (I was born in the eighties! Woo, pink, spikey hair and apandex for everyone! *shudder*)Well, I think the Japanese company did a good job, at least with character design. I loved the look of the films, even the LotR cartoon to a small extent (though that one was a different company, I think).

NotHomeYet · 02-16-2002, 07:19 PM

I thought "The Hobbit" was disasterous, especially their portrayal of Thranduil. He sounded like a Nazi talking into a Styrofoam cup. And Smaug sounded disturbingly like the latter title character from "Beauty and the Beast". I gotta admit, the theme song was catchy, though.

Frodo Baggins · 05-03-2002, 08:13 PM

Oh Lord! I nearly fainted laughing soo hard!! Elves 3 F-stops to exposed, Use-all-the-instruments-in-the-orchestra-or-else. The hobbits have no cute foot fuzz!!! No! Poor Frodo, if all Sam did was whistle when Frodo was in trouble they should have ditched him in Rivendell! Was it me, or do the hobbits have straight hair?? I ahve never seen the cartoon and DO NOT want to. Crazy-looking Balrog. The slowest orc Haha.

Nevfeniel · 05-03-2002, 09:55 PM

At the risk of sounding ignorant, what is an F-stop?

Frodo Baggins · 05-04-2002, 02:33 PM

At the risk of sounding even stupider, an F-stop is a degree of exposure on a camera. the higher the F-stop, the brighter and/or more washed-out an object looks. Did you see the picture of Legolas?? EWWWWWW!!! Don't tell me, in the picture above, Sam is the one with the humongous nose. PJ did a lot better. Hobbits are supposed to be cute, not frightningly ugly. Sure, we're not much to look upon, but we're not that ugly!!

Frodo Baggins · 05-04-2002, 02:34 PM

At the risk of sounding even stupider, an F-stop is a degree of exposure on a camera. the higher the F-stop, the brighter and/or more washed-out an object looks. Did you see the picture of Legolas?? EWWWWWW!!! Don't tell me, in the picture above, Sam is the one with the humongous nose. PJ did a lot better. Hobbits are supposed to be cute, not frightningly ugly. Sure, we're not much to look upon, but we're not that ugly!!

gollum*elf*pup · 05-05-2002, 09:14 AM

those cartoons are so stupid that it's funny!

02-05-2002, 09:42 AM	#1
Bad Fairy Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Beneath the Misty Mountains Posts: 15	LOTR Cartoon Having read earlier posts (in particular one by Rosa Underhill) I was wondering what people opinions are on the cartoon version of LOTR.<P>I have read the books now and seen FOTR twice and would like to know if anyone would recomend hiring this out ?? thanks <p>[ February 05, 2002: Message edited by: Bad Fairy ] __________________ "Rise up, Witches, throw off your masks And cease crying guilt for ancient crimes; Earth and all her children need us, For ALL face now the Burning Times." - L. A. Hussey

02-05-2002, 10:19 AM	#2
Jjudvven Wight Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Land to the West Posts: 154	No. I saw it years ago, and still remember it as being pathetic. Don't do it. __________________ "I don't know all of you as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you, half as well as you deserve."

02-05-2002, 02:03 PM	#3
Elanor Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: my own corner of the Shire Posts: 316	Eek! I still have memories of myself, aged 8, dragging my father out of the cinema, wailing because the story wasn't right. BOO!! Nassty cartoon, we hatess it, yess we do! __________________ "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Henny Youngman (1906 - )

02-05-2002, 03:17 PM	#4
Bruce MacCulloch Dead Man of Dunharrow Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 651	What? No one liked the infamous slippered Balrog?<BR> __________________ `A blunderbuss, was it?' said he, scratching his head. `I thought it was horseflies!'

02-06-2002, 05:56 AM	#5
Rosa Underhill Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waymeet, the Shire Posts: 297	"The Hobbit" cartoon was one of the highlights of my young life. Being done by the same folks, I can only hope that "The Return of the King" is as good. But "The Lord of the Rings": no.<P>It was horrid! I almost stopped reading the books after seeing it, it was that bad. (Thankfully, that didn't happen.) It spoiled so many awesome surprises for me. If you really wanna know just how bad it is, someone took the time to write a detailed review of the film, critiquing every last, wretched detail. It's right <A HREF="http://flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/bakshi/bakshi.htm" TARGET=_blank>here</A>. Check it for no other reason than to get a good laugh. (The review, not the film. That was so bad it wasn't even funny.) __________________ WWAHD? (What would a Hobbit do?)

02-06-2002, 06:00 AM	#6
Rosa Underhill Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waymeet, the Shire Posts: 297	I believe Frodo describes this film best right here. Poor little Hobbit, he didn't deserve all that on top of everything else he had to go through...<P> <BR><I>Intriguingly, Frodo turns away from Gandalf and looks directly into the camera, his eyes curiously tortured and beseeching. It's almost as if he's saying to the audience: "Please, please find a way to get me out of this ludicrous movie." </I> __________________ WWAHD? (What would a Hobbit do?)

02-06-2002, 06:14 AM	#7
Bad Fairy Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Beneath the Misty Mountains Posts: 15	LOL Well, what with that review and the other postings here (inc. poor Frodo's deperate plea)........ I think I'll give it a miss <P>Thanx everyone<p>[ February 06, 2002: Message edited by: Bad Fairy ] __________________ "Rise up, Witches, throw off your masks And cease crying guilt for ancient crimes; Earth and all her children need us, For ALL face now the Burning Times." - L. A. Hussey

02-12-2002, 02:07 AM	#8
ripcurlgirl Guest Posts: n/a	Oh mi god!! That critic thing that rosa underhill sent is <B>Halarius!</B> (sorry cant spell it properly !). But I have never ever heard of that cartoon. When did it come out?

02-12-2002, 02:18 AM	#9
Bruce MacCulloch Dead Man of Dunharrow Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 651	The Ralph Bakshi animated movie came out in 1978. It only goes so far as the Battle of Helm's Deep.<BR>In 1980 Rankin/Bass (the same guys that did the animated <I>Hobbit</I> and <I>Rudolph</I>) made an animated movie <I>The Return of the King</I>. It's actually worse than Bakshi's, if that's at all possible. The whole concept of the people that did <I>Frosty the Snowman</I> doing anything based on Tolkien is just wrong.<P>[ February 12, 2002: Message edited by: Bruce MacCulloch ]<p>[ February 12, 2002: Message edited by: Bruce MacCulloch ] __________________ `A blunderbuss, was it?' said he, scratching his head. `I thought it was horseflies!'

02-12-2002, 03:15 AM	#10
Rosa Underhill Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waymeet, the Shire Posts: 297	Is the RotK cartoon really that bad? Drat, and I just won it on eBay for eight bucks! Well, so long as the same voice actor who did Sam in the LotR cartoon isn't in it, I still don't think it could be that bad. <P>Honestly, I love Sam, really I do, but everytime he opened his mouth during that wretched film I wanted someone to shut him up! Ugh, that lisp was horrible and unnecessary! shudder __________________ WWAHD? (What would a Hobbit do?)

02-12-2002, 03:22 AM	#11
Glenethor Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow Posts: 176	I saw the RoTK cartoon a long time ago. It made no lasting impression on me, although I do remember the line 'where there's a whip there's a way, my slugs!' or something like that. I hated Gollum's voice in the cartoon. Not really the voice, but the fact that he'd utter 'gollum' as a word, when I have always perceived it as some sort of involuntary sub-vocalization. <P>Yeah, Sam was a little goofy. They all looked a little too cute. Almost Disneyish. __________________ "Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do. Nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too. Imagine all the people, living life in peace..." Dr. Winston O'Boogie

02-12-2002, 09:17 AM	#12
birdland Guest Posts: n/a	The one thing I remember about the Bakshi film was that the pupils of the character's eyes seemed to "drift" alot. Some kind of flaw in the animation process I guess. Anyway, it looked like Frodo and Sam were having petite mal seizures half the time. <P>Oh, yeah, and the gore. Peter Jackson gonna have to really go over the top in Two Towers if he wants to beat Bakshi's animated gore.

02-13-2002, 08:57 AM	#13
Araen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 70	I recal being a little eight year old sitting in class and them telling me that they were going to show The Hobbit. I was all happy because I had just read the book. Well a hour or so later I was being dragged out of the room yelling about how bloody auful the film was. They thought I had gone crazy because I stared talking in an english accent and useing english type words. I got in a lot of troubel.... don't see it. The story was butered. __________________ "Where is the horse and the rider, where is the horn that was blowing, they have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow, the days are damned in the west? behind the hills? there are shadows... "

02-13-2002, 10:33 AM	#14
Rosa Underhill Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waymeet, the Shire Posts: 297	I very much enjoyed the Rankin/Bass "Hobbit" cartoon. Bashi's LotR, well...see above.<P>Disney-ish, aye, but I think they're a bit more unique than Disney would've had them. I read an article that scared me greatly once; it was talking about how close Disney had come to having the rights to LotR. shudder I'm so glad New Line and PJ got it! __________________ WWAHD? (What would a Hobbit do?)

02-13-2002, 10:48 AM	#15
Araen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 70	Disney? Nooooooooooo that would be incredably scary, like Sauron getting the one ring scary......... __________________ "Where is the horse and the rider, where is the horn that was blowing, they have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow, the days are damned in the west? behind the hills? there are shadows... "

02-13-2002, 11:48 AM	#16
Rosa Underhill Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waymeet, the Shire Posts: 297	I can see the Hobbits all grouped together singing some really cheesy song now... And Disney probably would give Rose a bigger part and some hideous sob-song about how much she misses Sam and Sam himself would be a really dopey sidekcik... shudder, twitch __________________ WWAHD? (What would a Hobbit do?)

02-13-2002, 11:51 AM	#17
Araen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 70	::Pictures a snowhite like movie:: That would be veeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry sad..... __________________ "Where is the horse and the rider, where is the horn that was blowing, they have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow, the days are damned in the west? behind the hills? there are shadows... "

02-13-2002, 12:59 PM	#18
Glenethor Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow Posts: 176	Hi Ho, Hi Ho, to Barad-Dur we go! <BR> <P>There are a few scenes that are ok in the cartoon.<P> Ha! The Mouse has had numerous opportunities over the years to get its claws on LOTR but passed everytime. We are fortunate that some suit looked at the idea, and said 'why not do three movies instead of one or two?' 'Here's a garbage bag of $1,000.00 bills, go to it! Get back to me when it's done Pete 'ol boy!' What a trip the last couple of years must've been for all involved. Jeez...<BR> __________________ "Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do. Nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too. Imagine all the people, living life in peace..." Dr. Winston O'Boogie

02-13-2002, 01:55 PM	#19
cmagica Guest Posts: n/a	I thought the cartoon was pretty good.and the movie was great.although both didn't really keep to the book.

02-13-2002, 01:57 PM	#20
cmagica Guest Posts: n/a	Hey ya know what would be cool.If the made a movie in to the hobbit.

02-13-2002, 02:19 PM	#21
Tarlondeion Of Gondolin Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Gondolin the fair Posts: 94	Someone gave me the cartoon on video for my birthday, but to the tell the truth it was really crap. They pronounced Sauron, Sawron (or something like that) wrong and they called Saruman, Aruman. It was terrible all the places looked totally different to their descriptions in the book. My overall opinion was that it was absolutley TERRIBLE!!!

02-13-2002, 03:51 PM	#22
Eglantine Ploughman Guest Posts: n/a	Hy folks!<P>Sorry, just wanted to see if my picture works...! <P>Thank's a lot!

02-13-2002, 04:57 PM	#23
Rosa Underhill Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waymeet, the Shire Posts: 297	Why do hobbits always have afros in the cartoons?...<P>Oh, I figured it out! If anyone else thinks Schmendrick from "The Last Unicorn" looks kinda hobbit-like, it turns out that Rankin/Bass ("The Hobbit" and "Return of the King" cartoons) did this film too! Check it out!<P><A HREF="http://null" TARGET=_blank>http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/tolkien/rotk-1-4054-break-free-2.jpg</A> __________________ WWAHD? (What would a Hobbit do?)

02-13-2002, 05:02 PM	#24
Rosa Underhill Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waymeet, the Shire Posts: 297	<P>Sorry, I goofed above. Hopefully this will work. Compare Schmendrick's face to Sam and Frodo's faces.<P>And here's one more reason not to like the LotR caroon by Bakshi: <BR>He's got no foot fur! I mean, come on, that's an essential part of being a hobbit! __________________ WWAHD? (What would a Hobbit do?)

02-14-2002, 12:46 AM	#25
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rosa Underhill:<BR><STRONG>Why do hobbits always have afros in the cartoons?...<P>Oh, I figured it out! If anyone else thinks Schmendrick from "The Last Unicorn" looks kinda hobbit-like, it turns out that Rankin/Bass ("The Hobbit" and "Return of the King" cartoons) did this film too!]</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>We're both right Rosa. Raskin/Bass did the voice and script work, and the Japanse studio Topcraft did the actual animation. By the 80's it was far cheaper to ship the animation jobs overseas. I'm betting the Hobbit and RoTK were given the same treatment. <P>Credit (or blame) where credit is due.<P>As for Disney and LOTR; don't even mention that in my hearing. I still haven't forgiven Disney for what they did to <I>The Jungle Book</I>!

02-14-2002, 12:48 AM	#26
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rosa Underhill:<BR><STRONG>Why do hobbits always have afros in the cartoons?...</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>'Cause it was 1978! We ALL had afros back then!

02-14-2002, 03:07 AM	#27
Rosa Underhill Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waymeet, the Shire Posts: 297	Y'know, I'm trying to envision an non-existent being with an afro and it just isn't working... (I was born in the eighties! Woo, pink, spikey hair and apandex for everyone! shudder)<P>Well, I think the Japanese company did a good job, at least with character design. I loved the look of the films, even the LotR cartoon to a small extent (though that one was a different company, I think). __________________ WWAHD? (What would a Hobbit do?)

02-16-2002, 07:19 PM	#28
NotHomeYet Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 13	I thought "The Hobbit" was disasterous, especially their portrayal of Thranduil. He sounded like a Nazi talking into a Styrofoam cup. And Smaug sounded disturbingly like the latter title character from "Beauty and the Beast". I gotta admit, the theme song was catchy, though. __________________ The signs are obvious They are everywhere All that we hear about Is the gloom and despair Too many would be prophets Saying it's the end of it all 'Cause Mother Earth can't take much more The skies are gonna fall So nature has its needs That's a lesson learned But it appears to me There are greater concerns 'Cause we can save the planet Thinking we will somehow survive But Father Time is calling us To save somebody's life So I won't bend and I won't break I won't water down my faith I won't compromise in a world of desperation What has been, I cannot change For tomorrow and today I must be a light to future generations --- 4HIM

05-03-2002, 08:13 PM	#29
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	Oh Lord! I nearly fainted laughing soo hard!! Elves 3 F-stops to exposed, Use-all-the-instruments-in-the-orchestra-or-else. The hobbits have no cute foot fuzz!!! No! Poor Frodo, if all Sam did was whistle when Frodo was in trouble they should have ditched him in Rivendell! Was it me, or do the hobbits have straight hair?? I ahve never seen the cartoon and DO NOT want to. Crazy-looking Balrog. The slowest orc Haha. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

05-03-2002, 09:55 PM	#30
Nevfeniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mithlond Posts: 783	At the risk of sounding ignorant, what <I>is</I> an F-stop? __________________ Consider the purr a variety of audible tranquilizer. [. . .] For a few of us, there is one more purr, a secret purr. When we combine our secret purrs, we produce the Purr of Power. And that is simply the amplified amity we feel as furred and purred beings.

05-04-2002, 02:33 PM	#31
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	At the risk of sounding even stupider, an F-stop is a degree of exposure on a camera. the higher the F-stop, the brighter and/or more washed-out an object looks. Did you see the picture of Legolas?? EWWWWWW!!! <BR> Don't tell me, in the picture above, Sam is the one with the humongous nose. PJ did a lot better. Hobbits are supposed to be cute, not frightningly ugly. Sure, we're not much to look upon, but we're not that ugly!! __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

05-04-2002, 02:34 PM	#32
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	At the risk of sounding even stupider, an F-stop is a degree of exposure on a camera. the higher the F-stop, the brighter and/or more washed-out an object looks. Did you see the picture of Legolas?? EWWWWWW!!! <BR> Don't tell me, in the picture above, Sam is the one with the humongous nose. PJ did a lot better. Hobbits are supposed to be cute, not frightningly ugly. Sure, we're not much to look upon, but we're not that ugly!! __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

05-05-2002, 09:14 AM	#33
gollumelfpup Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: big...scary...castle... Posts: 277	those cartoons are so stupid that it's funny!<BR> __________________ ~elfpup~ PI's evil family dog!!! I have found the chicken who is not a chicken!