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***Mithadan*** · 07-28-2000, 08:11 AM

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First 5 volumes of HoME, HB no DJ on ebay, auction ends today. I am NOT the seller. I already have these but I thought someone here might be interested. Feel free to move this to another forum if appropriate.

Auction # is 388799600

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**lindil** · 07-28-2000, 10:58 AM

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Re: HoME books being auctioned on eBay

thanks for the ebay reminder I am looking for a hardback lays of beleriand. they wereselling 1-5 as whole set though. But I will remember to keep an eye on it.

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***Mithadan*** · 08-03-2000, 09:09 PM

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Re: HoME books being auctioned on eBay

I've been following TolKien items on eBay for some time and believe that bidders either too often get caught up in a frenzy or overbid because they have little idea of value. I've managed some real bargains on eBay but not recently. Try bestedeals.com or bestbookdeals.com for new books and alibris or bibliofind for used. You may do much better than on eBay. RKittle, I hope you're reading this.

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**lindil** · 08-04-2000, 08:29 AM

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sure am thanks .
I check in on these boards a couple of times a day[ they have replaced checking my email <img src=smile.gif ALT="

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I will try those out I would love to not pay full price for 3 and 6-9.

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InklingElf · 02-12-2003, 05:52 PM

What is HoME?: Ok, now I understand what canon means, but what is it? From what I've read it's supposed to be some kind of series of books?

***Mithadan*** · 02-12-2003, 06:30 PM

HoME stands for "History of Middle Earth". It is a twelve book series detailing the history of Tolkien's writings about Middle Earth. The series begins with The Book of Lost Tales I and II which contain JRRT's earliest writings about what would become the Silmarillion.

Volumes 1-5 deal with the Silmarillion. 6-9 deal with the writing of LoTR. 10-11 deal with the Silmarillion again but contain a lot of Tolkien's philosophical writings. 12 contains unpublished sections of the LoTR appendices (Tolkien had to shorten them for publication). All these books were edited by Tolkien's son Christopher.

InklingElf · 02-13-2003, 09:38 AM

Ohhh! it's an acronym! Now I know what you're talking about. I have it too, but I didn't know it was called HoME-heh. Thanks Mithadan

eleanor_niphredil · 02-13-2003, 11:35 AM

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now I understand what canon means

What does canon mean?

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-13-2003, 12:18 PM

Canon=text written by J.R.R himself, methinks? Am I right?

***Mithadan*** · 02-13-2003, 12:35 PM

In the context of Tolkien, there is no real accepted definition of "canon". Some say written by Tolkien and published during his lifetime. Others might exclude The Hobbit because it was not written with the intent to incorporate it into his prior (or later) Middle Earth writings. Most would exclude The Silmarillion and all of HoME because they are not final drafts or are heavily edited.

This forum tries to create a "canon" by reviewing all the pieces of the Silmarillion in HoME and trying to piece it together as Tolkien might have wanted it to be.

InklingElf · 02-13-2003, 02:58 PM

eleanor: If you look at the different threads here you will find more deifinite definitions of canon, but Mithadan is also correct.

07-28-2000, 08:11 AM	#1
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,374	HoME books being auctioned on eBay <font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pile o' Bones Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> First 5 volumes of HoME, HB no DJ on ebay, auction ends today. I am NOT the seller. I already have these but I thought someone here might be interested. Feel free to move this to another forum if appropriate. Auction # is 388799600 </p> __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

07-28-2000, 10:58 AM	#2
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: HoME books being auctioned on eBay thanks for the ebay reminder I am looking for a hardback lays of beleriand. they wereselling 1-5 as whole set though. But I will remember to keep an eye on it. </p> __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.

08-03-2000, 09:09 PM	#3
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,374	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: HoME books being auctioned on eBay I've been following TolKien items on eBay for some time and believe that bidders either too often get caught up in a frenzy or overbid because they have little idea of value. I've managed some real bargains on eBay but not recently. Try bestedeals.com or bestbookdeals.com for new books and alibris or bibliofind for used. You may do much better than on eBay. RKittle, I hope you're reading this. </p> __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

08-04-2000, 08:29 AM	#4
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: HoME books being auctioned on eBay sure am thanks . I check in on these boards a couple of times a day[ they have replaced checking my email <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> ] I will try those out I would love to not pay full price for 3 and 6-9. </p> __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.

02-12-2003, 06:30 PM	#6
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,374	HoME stands for "History of Middle Earth". It is a twelve book series detailing the history of Tolkien's writings about Middle Earth. The series begins with The Book of Lost Tales I and II which contain JRRT's earliest writings about what would become the Silmarillion. Volumes 1-5 deal with the Silmarillion. 6-9 deal with the writing of LoTR. 10-11 deal with the Silmarillion again but contain a lot of Tolkien's philosophical writings. 12 contains unpublished sections of the LoTR appendices (Tolkien had to shorten them for publication). All these books were edited by Tolkien's son Christopher. __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

02-12-2003, 05:52 PM	#5
InklingElf Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 402	What is HoME?: Ok, now I understand what canon means, but what is it? From what I've read it's supposed to be some kind of series of books?

02-13-2003, 09:38 AM	#7
InklingElf Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 402	Ohhh! it's an acronym! Now I know what you're talking about. I have it too, but I didn't know it was called HoME-heh. Thanks Mithadan

02-13-2003, 12:18 PM	#9
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Canon=text written by J.R.R himself, methinks? Am I right? __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-13-2003, 12:35 PM	#10
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,374	In the context of Tolkien, there is no real accepted definition of "canon". Some say written by Tolkien and published during his lifetime. Others might exclude The Hobbit because it was not written with the intent to incorporate it into his prior (or later) Middle Earth writings. Most would exclude The Silmarillion and all of HoME because they are not final drafts or are heavily edited. This forum tries to create a "canon" by reviewing all the pieces of the Silmarillion in HoME and trying to piece it together as Tolkien might have wanted it to be. __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

02-13-2003, 02:58 PM	#11
InklingElf Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 402	eleanor: If you look at the different threads here you will find more deifinite definitions of canon, but Mithadan is also correct.