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Quentingolmo
Join Date: Aug 2017
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Of Turgon and the Building of Gondolin
This is the first draft of the chapter Of Turgon and the Building of Gondolin.
Our basis text is that of the Later Quenta Silmarillion given in HoME 11. Wherever the text is different from that this is marked by an editing mark. The markings are: TBG-xx for tracking the changes from QS to LQ2 (I did not bother with LQ1) as well as additions from the Grey Annals. Some conventions of my writing: Normal Text is from the basic text that is mentioned above (when I change the basic-Text it will be mentioned) Bold Text = source information, comments and remarks {example} = text that should be deleted [example] = normalised text, normally only used for general changes <source example> = additions with source information ...... = This section of the paragraph is unchanged from the source. Quote:
TBG-02: this part of the text is given in the Grey Annals TBG-03: This part was not in the LQ2 text, as it is restated later TBG-04: This part of the Grey Annals is found nowhere else, and as it takes place right before the completion of Gondolin it should be in this chapter. Considering the name of the chapter is about Turgon, I think it should be placed here (after the Gondolin section) even though it takes place earlier in time. TBG-05: The next part of the Grey Annals story TBG-06: The last part of the Grey Annals story |
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King's Writer
Join Date: Jul 2002
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To TBG-01 to TBG-03 I agree, and in this part I as well did not find anything to add.
TBG-04 to TBG-06: ArcusCalion, you comment yourself, that these events happened before the building of Gondolin. So I think we should not add them here even so Christopher Tolkien made it in a similar way. The additions that follow from GA do not rightly fit in this position. This is already markable in Sil77. But in this version it is even stronger. I propose to use the chapter title from Sil77 ‘Of the Noldor in Beleriand’ to put this story of Thingol and the Finarfians before the actual chapter ‘Of Turgon and Building of Gondolin’. If you agree to this I would name that change TBG-00.1 and stay with the other makers. Otherwise I am okay with these stories. Respectfully Findegil |
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Quentingolmo
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Perhaps we could make this chapter "Of the Noldor in Beleriand" with the Doriath parts first, and then use "Of Turgon and the Building of Gondolin" as a subheading? This way we would preserve the existing chapter number, and would not split an already short chapter into two.
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King's Writer
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The chapters have anyhow be renumbered in the process of editing TftE, therefore I do not see any value in keeping them. And short chapters are not that uncommon in TftE. Therefore I would leave the chapter ‘Turgon and the building of Gondolin’ as such and add ‘Of the Noldor in Beleriand’.
Respectfully Findegil |
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Quentingolmo
Join Date: Aug 2017
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Very well
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