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Join Date: Oct 2006
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'Conspiracy' plot hole
This one has bothered me for decades. At Crickhollow when Merry spills the beans, he says that it began the previous April when ":things got serious", and names Sam their "chief investigator" and says he collected "a lot" of intel, until he was caught and clammed up.
The problem with this is that there's no timeline in which it works. On April 13, Gandalf tells Frodo about the Ring. Sam overhears; Sam is caught. No window for Sam to be gethering and reporting intel- Merry's story just doesn't work.
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This problem bothered me too. The only apparent solution is that Sam's drying up did not include reporting the conversation from The Shadow of the Past. At the end of the chapter, we see this:
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We also know from the conversation with Gildor and the Council of Elrond that Sam was not above eavesdropping even after being caught. |
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