Copy-Cat Quotes - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lostgaeriel · 12-22-2001, 01:26 AM

Quotes in this thread are phrases uttered by more than one character - let's say in any/all the books. Identify at least 2 characters who said:

Quote:

But handsome is as handsome does...

Bonus points for identifying who was spoken to and the circumstances or the book(s) and chapters.

RULE UPDATES:

1) To make it easier to find a suitable quote, find a short phrase or even a distinctive single word that's not used too many times in the book(s). Note too, that sometimes the "copied" quote is on the same page as the original. That still fits the "rules".

2) Let's keep the thread active. If it's your turn to ask, but you can't find something, please say you pass. Then someone else can ask. Let's try to keep it to one open question at a time. (Questioners: remember to give hints if we need help!)

[ January 13, 2002: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

Turambar · 12-22-2001, 12:49 PM

Good idea for a thread, Lostgariel!

I know one person who says this, but I'llwait to post it until I remember the other.

Marileangorifurnimaluim · 12-22-2001, 10:53 PM

Sam and the Gaffer (well, he quotes the Gaffer) annnnnnd... making a guess here - Bilbo?

Turambar · 12-23-2001, 08:14 AM

Yeah Sam says it to Faramir after he (Sam) stupidly reveals that Frodo has the one ring. I can't remember when Bilbo says it.

Marileangorifurnimaluim · 12-24-2001, 02:34 AM

Oh the other person was Pippin, regarding "Strider" when they were all suspicious of him - Pippin, and then later Sam (in Ithilien as said above).

Marileangorifurnimaluim · 12-29-2001, 02:33 AM

Oh drat - Lostgaeriel? Lostgaeriel - ? Turambar, I think we've lost Lostgaeriel to Christmas vacation. I'd love to know if I got it right.

-Maril

[ December 29, 2001: Message edited by: Marileangorifurnimaluim ]

Lostgaeriel · 12-29-2001, 04:15 PM

Yes, Marileangorifurnimaluim has answered it!

Go ahead, if you have a quote that fits. (I know there's at least one more in LOTR.)

Sorry for the delay. My holiday hiatus from the computer was longer than I expected.

Marileangorifurnimaluim · 12-31-2001, 02:20 AM

Man... that's a tall order. I've been looking, getting a lot of near misses.

Turambar · 12-31-2001, 09:39 AM

It's your turn Maril, but one other quote I know of that's repeated (I think anyway) is the one about "Do not meddle in the affair of wizards, etc." Having said that, I can't remember the 2d person who says it !

Legolas · 01-03-2002, 12:21 AM

Hmm...well, which speaker do you remember? Gildor?

Turambar · 01-03-2002, 07:22 AM

Yes Gildor said it and I belive either Frodo or Sam (or Pippin?) repeat it at some point, but I can't quite remember.

HerenIstarion · 01-03-2002, 12:13 PM

There are even three persong saying this. First is Gildor (the Author), than comes Sam (quoting Gildor), and than Merry (quoting Sam as quoting Gildor - persuading Pippin not to look into the Palantir)

Lostgaeriel · 01-08-2002, 10:33 AM

Hey Maril et al! To make it easier to find a suitable quote, find a short phrase or even a distinctive single word that's not used too many times in the book(s). Note too, that sometimes the "copied" quote is on the same page as the original. That still fits the "rules". I'm finding lots of examples that way.

Elendur · 01-09-2002, 09:28 PM

I wish to ask a question. Because this thread is very unique in the amount of research it would take to find such quotes, can we post our findings any time we like even out of order? I know it is Maril's turn to find a quote, but it will obviously take a good deal of time to do so. And because I have one now, and I think you will have a tough time figuring the answer out, I was wondering if I can post it immediately.

I am awaiting a response. I would not think of breaking the rules like I have done in the past. But I thought this thread should be an exception.

Turambar · 01-10-2002, 05:35 AM

I agree, Elendur. In this thread the tough part is ASKING the qustion, not answering it.

Lostgaeriel · 01-11-2002, 03:50 PM

Sure, let's keep the thread active. If it's your turn to ask, but you can't find something, please say you pass. Then someone else can ask. Should we try to keep it to one open question at a time? Or should we allow up to 3 open questions if we get stumped?

So go ahead Elendur. (Maril - please ask when you've got a question.)

Lostgaeriel · 01-16-2002, 06:36 PM

OK, while we're waiting for Elendur and Marileangorifurnimaluim to post questions, I thought I'd ask about the "affairs of wizards" quote and post a new quote to work on.

Gildor says "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards..." in Three is Company. And Merry says it in The Palantir - and says he is quoting Sam. But where in LOTR does Sam say this?

Try this pair:

Quote:

(...) Black Riders!

Quote:

(...) Black Riders?

It's surprising how rarely this comes up. (You can use the Index to find these.)

[ January 16, 2002: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

Marileangorifurnimaluim · 01-16-2002, 07:44 PM

Re: Waiting for Godot

Problem with answering is you have to come up with a question. Yeeesh. This is hard.
Go on without me guys. It's a great idea but these are tough. I'm in the middle of major end of year financials at the office so I'm not going to have time to search for one.

Turambar · 01-17-2002, 11:58 AM

Pippin says it when they finally meet Merry in Buckland. And Merry says it in Bree "I have seem them Frodo - Black Riders!".

Lostgaeriel · 01-18-2002, 12:44 AM

Yes, Merry says in Bree "I have seem them Frodo - Black Riders!". Note that Frodo comes right back at Merry with the same. [Maybe I wasn't clear with the "(...) Black Riders!" I meant that there may or may not be other words before the phrase.]

But Pippin's comment in the house in Crickhollow is a statement, not an exclamation. He says "We were all scared. You would have been, too, if you had been chased for two days by Black Riders."

And of course Frodo asks, as the conspiracy is unmasked, "But what about the Black Riders? Would it be safe to wait one day for Gandalf?"

Check out the meeting with Gildor near Woodhall. "Black Riders!" and "Black Riders?" coming out of everyone's mouths!!!

"(...) Black Riders?" doesn't turn up again until Pippin reaches Minas Tirith.

Considering how omnipresent the Ringwraiths are, it's remarkable how infrequently they are referred to as Black Riders. Or maybe not, since they stop riding horses and start riding those flying creatures.

Your turn, Turambar.

Turambar · 01-20-2002, 09:15 AM

Quote:

"What have I said? What have I done?"

What two characters say this?

Eowyn of Ithilien · 01-20-2002, 03:53 PM

Boromir and Frodo

Turambar · 01-20-2002, 07:43 PM

Yep you got it. These copycat quotes are tough to find - good luck Eowyn.

Eowyn of Ithilien · 01-24-2002, 11:19 PM

sorry I haven't posted earlier; my ISP lost it [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]
"and I will follow if I can"

Gayalondiel · 01-25-2002, 10:41 AM

Bilbo and Frodo, both in versions of 'The Road goes ever on and on'

i think

Eowyn of Ithilien · 01-28-2002, 02:51 AM

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] you're right

Gayalondiel · 01-30-2002, 07:11 AM

Oh, crumbs. these are tough to find.

Ok, this may be a bit too easy...

"Seek for the sword that was broken"

First guy's easy, second one not so, i think. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Bruce MacCulloch · 01-30-2002, 04:19 PM

Boromir (at the Council)and Frodo (to Faramir in Ithilien)

Bruce MacCulloch · 01-30-2002, 04:21 PM

What have I done? [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] Now I have to find a question. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Gayalondiel · 02-01-2002, 11:30 AM

Absolutely right Bruce.

Good Luck.... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Bruce MacCulloch · 02-01-2002, 01:32 PM

Quote:

harken now

Androndo the Thoughtfull · 02-02-2002, 02:39 PM

Tom Bombadil to the Hobbits - a "come and help us" poem:

By fire, sun and moon, harken now and hear us!

And Frodo in THE BARROW-DOWNS called Bombadil with the same poem!

Bruce MacCulloch · 02-02-2002, 10:27 PM

Androndo, very nice!
Your turn.
That's two questions of mine in two different topics you answered today - maybe I should make my questions harder. :P

Androndo the Thoughtfull · 02-03-2002, 12:09 AM

Well... isn't it beginners luck or something? [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Easy one... come with a guess:

Quote:

Hail, Lord of the Mark!

(had to change the first one... the spelling wasn't the same the second place... oops...)

[ February 03, 2002: Message edited by: Androndo the Thoughtfull ]

Eowyn of Ithilien · 02-03-2002, 02:40 AM

Theoden and Eomer
*guessing* lol

Androndo the Thoughtfull · 02-03-2002, 05:57 AM

One right, one to go...

Théoden sad Hail! King of the mark...

Eowyn of Ithilien · 02-03-2002, 02:56 PM

Theoden and Gandalf to Eomer????

Androndo the Thoughtfull · 02-04-2002, 03:53 AM

nope...

Gayalondiel · 02-04-2002, 07:41 AM

Eomer and Eowyn? (at a guess)

Androndo the Thoughtfull · 02-04-2002, 08:17 AM

Thats it! Your turn! (And send my regards to your poor little brother [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] )

12-22-2001, 12:49 PM	#2
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Good idea for a thread, Lostgariel! I know one person who says this, but I'llwait to post it until I remember the other. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

12-22-2001, 10:53 PM	#3
Marileangorifurnimaluim Eerie Forest Spectre Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Buried in scrolls of fanfiction Posts: 798	Sam and the Gaffer (well, he quotes the Gaffer) annnnnnd... making a guess here - Bilbo? __________________ Deserves death! I daresay he does... And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them?

12-23-2001, 08:14 AM	#4
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Yeah Sam says it to Faramir after he (Sam) stupidly reveals that Frodo has the one ring. I can't remember when Bilbo says it. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

12-24-2001, 02:34 AM	#5
Marileangorifurnimaluim Eerie Forest Spectre Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Buried in scrolls of fanfiction Posts: 798	Oh the other person was Pippin, regarding "Strider" when they were all suspicious of him - Pippin, and then later Sam (in Ithilien as said above). __________________ Deserves death! I daresay he does... And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them?

12-29-2001, 02:33 AM	#6
Marileangorifurnimaluim Eerie Forest Spectre Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Buried in scrolls of fanfiction Posts: 798	Oh drat - Lostgaeriel? Lostgaeriel - ? Turambar, I think we've lost Lostgaeriel to Christmas vacation. I'd love to know if I got it right. -Maril [ December 29, 2001: Message edited by: Marileangorifurnimaluim ] __________________ Deserves death! I daresay he does... And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them?

12-29-2001, 04:15 PM	#7
Lostgaeriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto the Good Posts: 477	Yes, Marileangorifurnimaluim has answered it! Go ahead, if you have a quote that fits. (I know there's at least one more in LOTR.) Sorry for the delay. My holiday hiatus from the computer was longer than I expected. __________________ Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo, a star shines on the hour of our meeting.

12-31-2001, 02:20 AM	#8
Marileangorifurnimaluim Eerie Forest Spectre Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Buried in scrolls of fanfiction Posts: 798	Man... that's a tall order. I've been looking, getting a lot of near misses. __________________ Deserves death! I daresay he does... And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them?

12-31-2001, 09:39 AM	#9
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	It's your turn Maril, but one other quote I know of that's repeated (I think anyway) is the one about "Do not meddle in the affair of wizards, etc." Having said that, I can't remember the 2d person who says it ! __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-03-2002, 12:21 AM	#10
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	Hmm...well, which speaker do you remember? Gildor? __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

01-03-2002, 07:22 AM	#11
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Yes Gildor said it and I belive either Frodo or Sam (or Pippin?) repeat it at some point, but I can't quite remember. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-03-2002, 12:13 PM	#12
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	There are even three persong saying this. First is Gildor (the Author), than comes Sam (quoting Gildor), and than Merry (quoting Sam as quoting Gildor - persuading Pippin not to look into the Palantir) __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time! Last edited by HerenIstarion; 11-30-2005 at 04:43 AM. Reason: sweeping party

01-08-2002, 10:33 AM	#13
Lostgaeriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto the Good Posts: 477	Hey Maril et al! To make it easier to find a suitable quote, find a short phrase or even a distinctive single word that's not used too many times in the book(s). Note too, that sometimes the "copied" quote is on the same page as the original. That still fits the "rules". I'm finding lots of examples that way. __________________ Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo, a star shines on the hour of our meeting.

01-09-2002, 09:28 PM	#14
Elendur Wight Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Arnor Posts: 200	I wish to ask a question. Because this thread is very unique in the amount of research it would take to find such quotes, can we post our findings any time we like even out of order? I know it is Maril's turn to find a quote, but it will obviously take a good deal of time to do so. And because I have one now, and I think you will have a tough time figuring the answer out, I was wondering if I can post it immediately. I am awaiting a response. I would not think of breaking the rules like I have done in the past. But I thought this thread should be an exception. __________________ Son of Isildur.

01-10-2002, 05:35 AM	#15
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	I agree, Elendur. In this thread the tough part is ASKING the qustion, not answering it. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-11-2002, 03:50 PM	#16
Lostgaeriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto the Good Posts: 477	Sure, let's keep the thread active. If it's your turn to ask, but you can't find something, please say you pass. Then someone else can ask. Should we try to keep it to one open question at a time? Or should we allow up to 3 open questions if we get stumped? So go ahead Elendur. (Maril - please ask when you've got a question.) __________________ Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo, a star shines on the hour of our meeting.

01-16-2002, 07:44 PM	#18
Marileangorifurnimaluim Eerie Forest Spectre Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Buried in scrolls of fanfiction Posts: 798	Re: Waiting for Godot Problem with answering is you have to come up with a question. Yeeesh. This is hard. Go on without me guys. It's a great idea but these are tough. I'm in the middle of major end of year financials at the office so I'm not going to have time to search for one. __________________ Deserves death! I daresay he does... And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them?

01-17-2002, 11:58 AM	#19
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Pippin says it when they finally meet Merry in Buckland. And Merry says it in Bree "I have seem them Frodo - Black Riders!". __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-18-2002, 12:44 AM	#20
Lostgaeriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto the Good Posts: 477	Yes, Merry says in Bree "I have seem them Frodo - Black Riders!". Note that Frodo comes right back at Merry with the same. [Maybe I wasn't clear with the "(...) Black Riders!" I meant that there may or may not be other words before the phrase.] But Pippin's comment in the house in Crickhollow is a statement, not an exclamation. He says "We were all scared. You would have been, too, if you had been chased for two days by Black Riders." And of course Frodo asks, as the conspiracy is unmasked, "But what about the Black Riders? Would it be safe to wait one day for Gandalf?" Check out the meeting with Gildor near Woodhall. "Black Riders!" and "Black Riders?" coming out of everyone's mouths!!! "(...) Black Riders?" doesn't turn up again until Pippin reaches Minas Tirith. Considering how omnipresent the Ringwraiths are, it's remarkable how infrequently they are referred to as Black Riders. Or maybe not, since they stop riding horses and start riding those flying creatures. Your turn, Turambar. __________________ Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo, a star shines on the hour of our meeting.

01-20-2002, 03:53 PM	#22
Eowyn of Ithilien Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 277	Boromir and Frodo __________________ But of bliss and glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song.

01-20-2002, 07:43 PM	#23
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Yep you got it. These copycat quotes are tough to find - good luck Eowyn. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-24-2002, 11:19 PM	#24
Eowyn of Ithilien Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 277	sorry I haven't posted earlier; my ISP lost it [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] "and I will follow if I can" __________________ But of bliss and glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song.

01-25-2002, 10:41 AM	#25
Gayalondiel Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: My own little wierd, wierd world Posts: 133	Bilbo and Frodo, both in versions of 'The Road goes ever on and on' i think __________________ Not another ****ing Elf! ~C.S.Lewis

01-28-2002, 02:51 AM	#26
Eowyn of Ithilien Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 277	[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] you're right __________________ But of bliss and glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song.

01-30-2002, 07:11 AM	#27
Gayalondiel Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: My own little wierd, wierd world Posts: 133	Oh, crumbs. these are tough to find. Ok, this may be a bit too easy... "Seek for the sword that was broken" First guy's easy, second one not so, i think. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Not another ****ing Elf! ~C.S.Lewis

01-30-2002, 04:19 PM	#28
Bruce MacCulloch Dead Man of Dunharrow Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 651	Boromir (at the Council)and Frodo (to Faramir in Ithilien) __________________ `A blunderbuss, was it?' said he, scratching his head. `I thought it was horseflies!'

01-30-2002, 04:21 PM	#29
Bruce MacCulloch Dead Man of Dunharrow Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 651	What have I done? [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] Now I have to find a question. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ `A blunderbuss, was it?' said he, scratching his head. `I thought it was horseflies!'

02-01-2002, 11:30 AM	#30
Gayalondiel Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: My own little wierd, wierd world Posts: 133	Absolutely right Bruce. Good Luck.... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Not another ****ing Elf! ~C.S.Lewis

02-02-2002, 02:39 PM	#32
Androndo the Thoughtfull Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Daugaardstrand, Denmark Posts: 118	Tom Bombadil to the Hobbits - a "come and help us" poem: By fire, sun and moon, harken now and hear us! And Frodo in THE BARROW-DOWNS called Bombadil with the same poem! __________________ ...and with a tremendous slice of luck you may come out one day...

02-02-2002, 10:27 PM	#33
Bruce MacCulloch Dead Man of Dunharrow Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 651	Androndo, very nice! Your turn. That's two questions of mine in two different topics you answered today - maybe I should make my questions harder. :P __________________ `A blunderbuss, was it?' said he, scratching his head. `I thought it was horseflies!'

02-03-2002, 02:40 AM	#35
Eowyn of Ithilien Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 277	Theoden and Eomer guessing lol __________________ But of bliss and glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song.

02-03-2002, 05:57 AM	#36
Androndo the Thoughtfull Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Daugaardstrand, Denmark Posts: 118	One right, one to go... Théoden sad Hail! King of the mark... __________________ ...and with a tremendous slice of luck you may come out one day...

02-03-2002, 02:56 PM	#37
Eowyn of Ithilien Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 277	Theoden and Gandalf to Eomer???? __________________ But of bliss and glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song.

02-04-2002, 03:53 AM	#38
Androndo the Thoughtfull Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Daugaardstrand, Denmark Posts: 118	nope... __________________ ...and with a tremendous slice of luck you may come out one day...

02-04-2002, 07:41 AM	#39
Gayalondiel Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: My own little wierd, wierd world Posts: 133	Eomer and Eowyn? (at a guess) __________________ Not another ****ing Elf! ~C.S.Lewis

02-04-2002, 08:17 AM	#40
Androndo the Thoughtfull Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Daugaardstrand, Denmark Posts: 118	Thats it! Your turn! (And send my regards to your poor little brother [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] ) __________________ ...and with a tremendous slice of luck you may come out one day...