Riddles in the Downs - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Bombadil · 04-07-2004, 03:13 PM

One of my favorite parts in the hobbit is the Riddle-match between Gollum and Bilbo. So i thought, why not start a riddling game on anything in the hobbit and the lord of the rings, or even ME geography? I'll start out with one:

A hasty one to some, friend of hobbits
A young one, with an elvish name

**The Saucepan Man** · 04-07-2004, 05:13 PM

We did already have a couple of riddle games but, since they were dormant, I have closed them.

Please feel free free to continue the riddle game here. Usual rules apply. First person to answer the current riddle correctly gets to set the next one.

Arestevana · 04-07-2004, 05:47 PM

I will guess..

Bregalad: The elvish name of Quickbeam, a young and relatively hasty ent, companion to the hobbits Merry and Pippin.

Bombadil · 04-07-2004, 07:09 PM

correct, nice work

Arestevana · 04-08-2004, 10:48 AM

Thanks!

In this the stars are doomed to die,
With murmured voice I prophecy,
While cold and still the small ones lie,
What is 'this' and what am I?

If this your wonder cannot quell,
Remember ever: Here I dwell!
To wander in forsaken dell,
A ghosted shade with powers fell.

The Perky Ent · 04-08-2004, 03:06 PM

I have absolutly nooo clue, but...um...Earendil?

Bombadil · 04-08-2004, 03:55 PM

im not sure, but possibly morgoth in the halls of mandos?

Firefoot · 04-08-2004, 04:35 PM

"This" could be a Barrow and you could be a Barrow-wight.

Fingolfin II · 04-09-2004, 01:45 AM

I agree with Bombadil about the person being Morgoth; but would here happen to be in the Void, outside the Door of Night?

Arestevana · 04-09-2004, 08:59 AM

Excellent, Firefoot. Barrow-wight is correct. Barrow, however, is not. Guesses on 'this', anyone?

Firefoot · 04-09-2004, 09:21 AM

The black wind?

The Perky Ent · 04-09-2004, 11:04 AM

Random guess, Malbeth the Seer?

Finwe · 04-09-2004, 11:05 AM

In the Barrow-Downs?

Arestevana · 04-09-2004, 11:35 AM

Correct again, Firefoot. Your turn.

Firefoot · 04-09-2004, 04:40 PM

Thanks! Now, to write one... that's a scary thought.

A weapon used to call,
A token of war.
Long expected yet dreaded by all,
Black and red its colors are.

The Perky Ent · 04-09-2004, 05:39 PM

Um...well...no clue really....so....i'm guessing....Smaug?

Bombadil · 04-09-2004, 06:48 PM

the horn of helm hammerhand?

Finwe · 04-09-2004, 07:37 PM

The Red Arrow?

Firefoot · 04-10-2004, 05:54 AM

Finwe has it.

Finwe · 04-11-2004, 07:38 PM

All right... this one is a slightly wicked one, unless you have the right resources.

Millions of black ants;
The army marches forward in thousands of platoons;
In six brigades;
In three divisions;
All toward the One.

Fingolfin II · 04-11-2004, 08:24 PM

The Last Alliance of Men and Elves?

Finwe · 04-14-2004, 07:21 PM

Nope. Think bigger.

Fingolfin II · 04-14-2004, 07:24 PM

Ok- how about the march of Eonwe and the War of Wrath?

Finwe · 04-14-2004, 07:28 PM

Ooh... too early....

Big doesn't necessarily have to do with numbers. Think "overall" big.

Bombadil · 04-14-2004, 08:27 PM

this is wrong, bu worh a shot.

battle of five armies?

***Gandalf*** · 04-20-2004, 07:40 PM

pelenor fields?

Finwe · 04-23-2004, 05:54 PM

Nope... read your Chapter Index of Lord of the Rings again...

Bombadil · 04-23-2004, 08:46 PM

The Battle of Helm's deep?

Thorongil · 04-26-2004, 03:54 AM

It sounds like the book itself. Or are you after "the One"?

nynnd1 · 04-27-2004, 05:39 AM

Could it be Sauron's attack on Minis Tirith

Nuranar · 04-27-2004, 03:20 PM

I agree with Thorongil; I think it's the book itself.

Millions of little black words (poetic license there, methinks

);
Thousands of sentences;
Six books;
Three volumes;
One whole.

And if this is it, yep - it's pretty wicked.

nynnd1 · 04-28-2004, 04:44 AM

I like the thinking, it's gotta be right or i'll eat my hat.

Nuranar · 05-07-2004, 09:46 PM

Finwe, where are you?

05-08-2004, 11:35 AM

I would bet my life that it's the Lord of the Rings

symestreem · 05-08-2004, 04:09 PM

Ar-Pharazon's assault on Barad-dur?

Iarwain · 05-19-2004, 08:04 AM

I think that "The Lord of the Rings" could easily be right, but if not, I'll venture to guess that it is the War of Wrath, if only because there were three "divisions" of elves: Vanyar, Noldor, Teleri.

Iarwain

Bombadil · 05-30-2004, 09:33 PM

Hey dol! Where has Finwe been!?

Anyway, here is a new riddle!

He had to choose, and he chose death,
but not by sword, 'stead loss of breath.
His father sailed, and all were saved,
his brother passed form the 3rd age.

The Perky Ent · 05-30-2004, 11:54 PM

I'll say...Elros. He chose mortality (death), and he died of age (breath), his father Earendil sails in the sky with the simaril (sails), and Elrond (brother) was the start of the fourth age! That should do!

Bombadil · 05-31-2004, 08:39 AM

ah yes! Very good perky, you're up.

Bombadil · 06-03-2004, 02:15 PM

Perky??

04-07-2004, 03:13 PM	#1
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	Riddles in the Downs One of my favorite parts in the hobbit is the Riddle-match between Gollum and Bilbo. So i thought, why not start a riddling game on anything in the hobbit and the lord of the rings, or even ME geography? I'll start out with one: A hasty one to some, friend of hobbits A young one, with an elvish name __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

04-07-2004, 05:13 PM	#2
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	We did already have a couple of riddle games but, since they were dormant, I have closed them. Please feel free free to continue the riddle game here. Usual rules apply. First person to answer the current riddle correctly gets to set the next one. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

04-07-2004, 07:09 PM	#4
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	correct, nice work __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

04-08-2004, 03:06 PM	#6
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	I have absolutly nooo clue, but...um...Earendil? __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

04-08-2004, 03:55 PM	#7
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	im not sure, but possibly morgoth in the halls of mandos? __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

04-07-2004, 05:47 PM	#3
Arestevana Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: West over water Posts: 486	I will guess.. Bregalad: The elvish name of Quickbeam, a young and relatively hasty ent, companion to the hobbits Merry and Pippin.

04-08-2004, 10:48 AM	#5
Arestevana Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: West over water Posts: 486	Thanks! In this the stars are doomed to die, With murmured voice I prophecy, While cold and still the small ones lie, What is 'this' and what am I? If this your wonder cannot quell, Remember ever: Here I dwell! To wander in forsaken dell, A ghosted shade with powers fell.

04-08-2004, 04:35 PM	#8
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	"This" could be a Barrow and you could be a Barrow-wight.

04-09-2004, 01:45 AM	#9
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	I agree with Bombadil about the person being Morgoth; but would here happen to be in the Void, outside the Door of Night? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

04-09-2004, 08:59 AM	#10
Arestevana Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: West over water Posts: 486	Excellent, Firefoot. Barrow-wight is correct. Barrow, however, is not. Guesses on 'this', anyone?

04-09-2004, 09:21 AM	#11
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	The black wind?

04-09-2004, 11:04 AM	#12
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Random guess, Malbeth the Seer? __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

04-09-2004, 11:05 AM	#13
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	In the Barrow-Downs? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

04-09-2004, 11:35 AM	#14
Arestevana Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: West over water Posts: 486	Correct again, Firefoot. Your turn.

04-09-2004, 04:40 PM	#15
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Thanks! Now, to write one... that's a scary thought. A weapon used to call, A token of war. Long expected yet dreaded by all, Black and red its colors are.

04-09-2004, 05:39 PM	#16
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Um...well...no clue really....so....i'm guessing....Smaug? __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

04-09-2004, 06:48 PM	#17
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	the horn of helm hammerhand? __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

04-09-2004, 07:37 PM	#18
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	The Red Arrow? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

04-10-2004, 05:54 AM	#19
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Finwe has it.

04-11-2004, 07:38 PM	#20
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	All right... this one is a slightly wicked one, unless you have the right resources. Millions of black ants; The army marches forward in thousands of platoons; In six brigades; In three divisions; All toward the One. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

04-11-2004, 08:24 PM	#21
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	The Last Alliance of Men and Elves? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

04-14-2004, 07:21 PM	#22
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Nope. Think bigger. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

04-14-2004, 07:24 PM	#23
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Ok- how about the march of Eonwe and the War of Wrath? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

04-14-2004, 07:28 PM	#24
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Ooh... too early.... Big doesn't necessarily have to do with numbers. Think "overall" big. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

04-14-2004, 08:27 PM	#25
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	this is wrong, bu worh a shot. battle of five armies? __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

04-20-2004, 07:40 PM	#26
*Gandalf* Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 17	pelenor fields?

04-23-2004, 05:54 PM	#27
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Nope... read your Chapter Index of Lord of the Rings again... __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

04-23-2004, 08:46 PM	#28
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	The Battle of Helm's deep? __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

04-26-2004, 03:54 AM	#29
Thorongil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Elvenpath Posts: 780	It sounds like the book itself. Or are you after "the One"? __________________ To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. ~Sun Tzu

04-27-2004, 05:39 AM	#30
nynnd1 Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: england Posts: 64	Could it be Sauron's attack on Minis Tirith __________________ I use my sword, narcatic, to uphold peace. Never for vengance.

04-27-2004, 03:20 PM	#31
Nuranar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: STILL a drought Posts: 529	I agree with Thorongil; I think it's the book itself. Millions of little black words (poetic license there, methinks ); Thousands of sentences; Six books; Three volumes; One whole. And if this is it, yep - it's pretty wicked. __________________ I admit it is better fun to punt than be punted, and that a desire to have all the fun is nine-tenths of the law of chivalry. Lord Peter Wimsey

04-28-2004, 04:44 AM	#32
nynnd1 Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: england Posts: 64	I like the thinking, it's gotta be right or i'll eat my hat. __________________ I use my sword, narcatic, to uphold peace. Never for vengance.

05-07-2004, 09:46 PM	#33
Nuranar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: STILL a drought Posts: 529	*bump* Finwe, where are you? __________________ I admit it is better fun to punt than be punted, and that a desire to have all the fun is nine-tenths of the law of chivalry. Lord Peter Wimsey

05-08-2004, 11:35 AM	#34
Smeagol Guest Posts: n/a	I would bet my life that it's the Lord of the Rings

05-08-2004, 04:09 PM	#35
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	Ar-Pharazon's assault on Barad-dur?