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01-12-2004, 06:17 PM | #1 | |||
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Word Choice in the Lay of Leithian
I was reading The Lay of Leithian in The Lays of Beleriand today, and I came upon a passage:
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<font size=1 color=339966>[ 7:18 PM January 12, 2004: Message edited by: VanimaEdhel ]
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01-12-2004, 06:57 PM | #2 |
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I think Tolkien meant "hell" in the general sense of a pit or a place full of flames and fumes, where you would be tortured and made to suffer, by flaming demons, wraiths, and other followers of the Dark Lord. There, your mind would be overthrown, and you would be broken both physically and mentally. In other words, Angband. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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01-12-2004, 08:54 PM | #3 |
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perhaps he ment the Void
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01-14-2004, 05:04 PM | #4 |
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I agre with Finwe, it has to be Angband. There are some Ainur who live outside Eä, and they could be in the Void. I know that Ilúvatar made a place for the Ainur in the beginning, but they could go to the Void I think.
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01-14-2004, 05:34 PM | #5 |
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I would imagine that "hell" would be the modern translation of the Sindarin word Udûn, meaning "The Pit" or "The Underworld" in Westron, which was the name given to the First Realm of Morgoth (Utumno in Quenya).
In the Third Age, Udûn was also the name given in Gondor to the north-western region of Mordor lying beyond the Black Gate. <font size=1 color=339966>[ 6:36 PM January 14, 2004: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]
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