More of Hobbits in the History of Middle Earth? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

R.R.J Tolkien · 05-04-2018, 12:08 PM

So I am going to start reading the histories of middle earth and have read from a few sources that Tolkien originally had much more of the hobbits in the Lord of the Rings. But reviewers such as C.S Lewis thought it to much and he took some of those sections out wishing later that he had not, after the fans loved thew hobbits. SO my question is, do the histories include these aspects that were originally in his early drafts?

Thanks.

Inziladun · 05-04-2018, 12:27 PM

Volume 6 The Return of the Shadow and Vol. 7, The Treason of Isengard both have early drafts of the story of LOTR. The style and tone there is very reminiscent of The Hobbit.

If you're interested, I had a thread awhile back that somewhat explored that topic.

R.R.J Tolkien · 05-04-2018, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

Volume 6 The Return of the Shadow and Vol. 7, The Treason of Isengard both have early drafts of the story of LOTR. The style and tone there is very reminiscent of The Hobbit.

If you're interested, I had a thread awhile back that somewhat explored that topic.

Great, thanks. I will check out your thread.

Findegil · 05-06-2018, 03:20 PM

There was as well the last chapter of Sam talking to his Elenaor about all the questions that his children had asked when he had read the Book to them. I think it is in volume 12 but it might as well be in volume 9.

Respectfully
Findegil

ArcusCalion · 05-08-2018, 08:44 AM

It's at the end of the first section of Volume 9, Sauron Defeated.

Faramir Jones · 06-20-2018, 10:35 AM

R.R.J Tolkien, when you asked if Tolkien 'originally had much more of the hobbits in the Lord of the Rings' which were later cut out, I thought at once of a hobbit called Trotter in the early drafts, found in Volume 6, who joined Frodo and the others at Bree, and who later became a Man called Strider, or Aragorn!

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R.R.J Tolkien Wight Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 156	More of Hobbits in the History of Middle Earth? So I am going to start reading the histories of middle earth and have read from a few sources that Tolkien originally had much more of the hobbits in the Lord of the Rings. But reviewers such as C.S Lewis thought it to much and he took some of those sections out wishing later that he had not, after the fans loved thew hobbits. SO my question is, do the histories include these aspects that were originally in his early drafts? Thanks. __________________ “I am in fact a Hobbit (in all but size). I like gardens, trees and unmechanized farmlands; I smoke a pipe, and like good plain food...I am fond of mushrooms.” -J.R.R Tolkien

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Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,037	Volume 6 The Return of the Shadow and Vol. 7, The Treason of Isengard both have early drafts of the story of LOTR. The style and tone there is very reminiscent of The Hobbit. If you're interested, I had a thread awhile back that somewhat explored that topic. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

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Faramir Jones Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lonely Isle Posts: 706	Trotter R.R.J Tolkien, when you asked if Tolkien 'originally had much more of the hobbits in the Lord of the Rings' which were later cut out, I thought at once of a hobbit called Trotter in the early drafts, found in Volume 6, who joined Frodo and the others at Bree, and who later became a Man called Strider, or Aragorn!

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Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,720	There was as well the last chapter of Sam talking to his Elenaor about all the questions that his children had asked when he had read the Book to them. I think it is in volume 12 but it might as well be in volume 9. Respectfully Findegil

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ArcusCalion Quentingolmo Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 525	It's at the end of the first section of Volume 9, Sauron Defeated.