Password - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Turambar · 08-07-2003, 11:16 PM

This is a new game. I freely admit to having stolen the idea from another Tolkien board. The rules are as follows:

1. The questioner gives a series of questions, each leading to an answer (which the questioner will confirm when guessed).

2. The first letters of the answers form the Password (see example below).

3. Traditionally, the questions can be (but aren't required to be) on the tricksy side, and can include “cryptic clues”, as well summarized by The Saucepan Man here (i.e., anagrams, synonyms, "sounds like" clues, etc.)

4. The first person to guess the “Password” wins the game, although you still have to solve any remaining questions.

5. Once the game gets going (if it does get going), you’re allowed to tinker with Rule #2. [

Simple example:

(1) Noldor, Sindar or Vanyar.
(2) First Telerin deserter.
(3) Monsters of the Last Desert.
(4) Not a man, to the Witch King’s regret.

Answers:

(1) Elf.
(2) Lenwë.
(3) Wereworms.
(4) Éowyn.

Password: ELWË.

- - - - - - - - - - -

Here’s a first puzzle:

(1) The Nostradamus of Brethil, last seen hurling a sad prophecy.
(2) City that played the Stones’ hits.
(3) Young star of Gondor, or a confused pet rodent?
(4) From Edith to Priscilla.
(5) (She was) gold on top, silver on the bottom.
(6) Fair land between two rivers, did Peregrin visit here when muddled?
(7) It flows from . . . here.
(8) Soul man with a broken crown, figuratively. Lightning was spotted there.
(9) Scholar, linguist, poet of the Elder Days. But he didn’t smoke a pipe.
(10) One needs to be a porter to pass here.

[ August 20, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 08-08-2003, 11:45 AM

I'll venture three guesses:

(1) Brandir
(6) Eregion, perhaps?
(7) Could it be Morthond?

Turambar · 08-08-2003, 01:40 PM

Rats ! All three wrong. But thanks for trying, I thought this game might die an early death. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

You're on the right track (i.e. in the right place in the Silmarillion), I think, for #1. But Brandir wasn't a seer, was he?

For #6 -- see Saucepan Man's post (linked above) for the "cryptic" meaning of "muddled". [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] HINT: what was Peregrin's title?

For #7 -- No, FROM HERE. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[ August 09, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 08-09-2003, 04:54 PM

Okay, thanks for the clues! Now I believe I know the answer to two of them:

(1) Glaurung?
(6) This would be the Naith of Lorien

Arestevana · 08-09-2003, 05:02 PM

(8) Amon Sul? As A mon = man sul = soul? Frodo saw lightning on the hill when Gandalf was fighting off the Nazgul.

Edit: You have a point, Luthien_Tinuviel.
[img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Silly of me not to notice. This is a great game!

[ August 09, 2003: Message edited by: Arestevana ]

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 08-09-2003, 05:36 PM

Arestevana, I think you're right, because "soul man" fits perfectly as an anagram for "Amon Sul".

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 08-10-2003, 09:54 AM

I will venture a guess at 9 and 10:

9- Pengolodh
10- Rath Dinen (or perhaps Sarn Gebir-- where the fellowship had to carry the boats over a "portage way"?)

Also, if it helps someone figure out "Edith" was Tolkien's wife, and "Priscilla" was his daughter. I can't get the clue, however.

Sophia

[ August 10, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

Turambar · 08-11-2003, 06:18 AM

The corect guesses are noted below:

(1) Glirhuin (A harping seer of Brethil, last seen hurling a sad prophecy.)
(2) Ondolindë (City that played the Stones’ hits.)
(3) Bergil (Young star of Gondor, or a confused pet rodent?)
(4) From Edith to Priscilla. <--
(5) Idril ((She was) gold on top, silver on the bottom.)
(6) Naith (Fair land between two rivers, did Peregrin visit here when muddled?)
(7) Withywindle (It flows from . . . here.)
(8) Amon Sûl (Soul man with a broken crown, figuratively. Lightning was spotted there.)
(9) Rúmil (Scholar, linguist, poet of the Elder Days. But he didn’t smoke a pipe.
(10) Sarn Gebir (One needs to be a porter to pass here.)

HINT:

(4) One of Tolkien's "works", sort of.

[ August 12, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Lyra Greenleaf · 08-11-2003, 06:37 AM

I'll go for Ondolinde for number 2, perhaps?

Turambar · 08-11-2003, 06:50 AM

Correct !

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 08-11-2003, 07:22 AM

3) Bergil- gerbil "confused"
7) Withywindle- sourced HERE in the Barrow-downs [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
9) Rumil- the ole Loremaster himself

Your password is GOBLIN WARS

Sophia

Turambar · 08-11-2003, 07:24 AM

Great job Sophia !! "Bergil" also includes gil = "star".

Of course, next time there will be no extra hints. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

You can start concocting your puzzle while the last few clues are solved (which should be even easier now that everyone knows the first letters). [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ August 11, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 08-12-2003, 09:31 AM

A few more guesses...
(1) Glirhuin
(5) Idril Celebrindal

Turambar · 08-12-2003, 09:38 AM

Yes on both accounts!

Glirhuin (a near anagram of hurling) was the seer/harper of Brethil who prophesied that the Stone of the Hapless would never be destroyed; in fact it survived the War of Wrath as Tol Morwen.

Idril had golden hair and was nicknamed Celebrindal, "silver-foot".

Only # 4 to go -- c'mon, it's as easy as ABC. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[ August 15, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Beren87 · 08-13-2003, 02:08 PM

Well, J.R.R.T. called Edith his "Luthien" quite often..and it fits the L, I just can't think of a phrase to go with it that fits the "Priscilla" part..

Turambar · 08-14-2003, 12:52 PM

Since I'm looking forward to Sophia's new Password puzzle, I'll just give the last answer. It is Letters of JRR Tolkien. (In this book, the first is to Edith, and the last to Priscilla.)

Sophia, you're up !

Turambar · 08-15-2003, 06:30 AM

(dragon bump)

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 08-15-2003, 09:30 AM

Okay, now that you gave it away, it's "letter" (or letters... whichever you prefer...). [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Turambar · 08-18-2003, 06:54 AM

Sophia ?

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-18-2003, 06:59 PM

What a great game, Turambar. [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

Seems to me that the questions making up the Password can draw on many of the other types of game in the forum (straight trivia, riddles, cryptic, words in words etc).

Might I make one suggestion, though? It would be helpful if the question-setter could post the list of questions, with any correct answers already given, when confirming each correct answer. Otherwise, it might become a bit difficult keeping track of which questions have been answered correctly and which haven't.

Turambar · 08-18-2003, 08:28 PM

I agree with you about how the questions could be of any type; my initial post should have just said, Be warned that "cryptic" clues are fair game (though not required).

As for your suggestion -- I agree there too, and I did do that, by continually editing the original post (to fill in correctly guessed clues). If it had gone to the next page, i would have re-posted the whole list.

So where's Sophia? I WANT A NEW PASSWORD !!!

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 08-19-2003, 06:06 PM

Heh, here I am. Sorry for the delay, I appreciated your message Turambar.

New Password:

1. A ring without a finger, older than Mirdain craft
2. Little village with Triumphant Architecture followed by a famous film flight home
3. I log lags, Lord they mix me up!
4. Elven Summer, or maybe song...
5. Nothing, Right? Nothing. Just the Mountain Fair without Val.
6. Title of what begins with "once again" but is clearly not as old.
7. Underground grins.
8. Green with envy initially, then blown to either's mate (love hurts, you see...).
9. The Forest Lord's first choice is uncooked!
10. Hobbit town, frequented by seamstresses and the thirsty.

Some of these are really hard! I'm sorry guys. Hints will be available as needed.

Sophia

Turambar · 08-20-2003, 06:59 AM

Yay !!

#1 Morgoth's Ring, or Arda ?
#4 Laer, or Lairë ?

[ August 20, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 08-20-2003, 10:19 AM

So far I have

2: Archet
5: Orocarni
7: Smials
9: Araw

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 08-20-2003, 10:30 AM

Apparently these aren't as ridiculously hard as I thought they were.

1. A ring without a finger, older than Mirdain craft
2. Archet Little village with Triumphant Architecture followed by a famous film flight home
3. I log lags, Lord they mix me up!
4. Laer Elven Summer, or maybe song...
5. Orocarni Nothing, Right? Nothing. Just the Mountain Fair without Val.
6. Title of what begins with "once again" but is clearly not as old.
7. Smials Underground grins.
8. Green with envy initially, then blown to either's mate (love hurts, you see...).
9. Araw The Forest Lord's first choice is uncooked!
10. Hobbit town, frequented by seamstresses and the thirsty.

Keep working on #1 Turambar. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Sophia

Estelyn Telcontar · 08-20-2003, 10:43 AM

#10 is Pincup (Finally a clue I got - could writing seamstresses have something to do with it? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] )

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 08-20-2003, 11:04 AM

#1 is Mahanaxar, also known as "The Ring of Doom".

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-20-2003, 11:16 AM

To add to the growing list:

#1 is Mahanaxar, the Ring of Doom outside Valimar wherein the Valar sat in council.

#3 is Golasgil (anagram of I log lags), Lord of Anfalas.

#6 is Renewer, the meaning of Aragorn's title, Evinyatar.

The Password is Maglor's Gap.

But I can't for the life of me think what #8 is. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 08-20-2003, 12:15 PM

All correct.
1. Mahanaxar A ring without a finger, older than Mirdain craft
2. Archet Little village with Triumphant Architecture followed by a famous film flight home
3. Golasgil I log lags, Lord they mix me up!
4. Laer Elven Summer, or maybe song...
5. Orocarni Nothing, Right? Nothing. Just the Mountain Fair without Val.
6. Renewer Title of what begins with "once again" but is clearly not as old.
7. Smials Underground grins.
8. Green with envy initially, then blown to either's mate (love hurts, you see...).
9. Araw The Forest Lord's first choice is uncooked!
10. Pincup Hobbit town, frequented by seamstresses and the thirsty.

Saucy, the password is indeed Maglor's Gap!

Shall I tell you what the answer to #8 is (odd, I thought it was easier than some of the others...)? Or shall I let you try to work it out?

Sophia

Turambar · 08-20-2003, 02:28 PM

#8 Gwindor ? (G.W. + wind + or)

Sophia -- geez they made short work of that one, didn't they? We have some real cryptographers on this site, which makes sense now that I think of it (all the graves, you know).

Can't wait to see SPM's puzzle.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 08-20-2003, 02:36 PM

Gwindor it is... Sheesh you guys are good... Nice new avatar, by the way, Turambar! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Take it away Saucepan.

Sophia

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-20-2003, 04:47 PM

OK, bear with me folks. It might take me a day or two to concoct something. I'll edit it in when I've come up with it.

Right, here it is.

1) Soldier of the Eldar takes protective headgear.
2) It may be useless, but it has sentimental value.
3) Present realm in the language of the locals.
4) Originally, this secret was believed to hold a birthday gift.
5) Might this fellow of the land one day take flight?
6) Nine erratically follow head of Umbar to see partner in a tempestuous marriage.
7) Northern secret agent from Spain can usurp.
8) Took home for extended break, reportedly.

Going on past performance, I don't imagine that this one will cause too much difficulty.

[ August 21, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

Voralphion · 08-21-2003, 07:39 PM

2) Shards of Narsil ??

Turambar · 08-21-2003, 08:04 PM

# 7 Incánus ? (Spain can usurp; Incánus meant "south spy" I think)

[ August 21, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-21-2003, 08:05 PM

Useless? They were reforged to produce Anduril, which was a pretty useful weapon as I recall. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

So that's not the answer, I'm afraid. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

But you are correct on #7, Turambar (except it's "north spy").

1) Soldier of the Eldar takes protective headgear.
2) It may be useless, but it has sentimental value.
3) Present realm in the language of the locals.
4) Originally, this secret was believed to hold a birthday gift.
5) Might this fellow of the land one day take flight?
6) Nine erratically follow head of Umbar to see partner in a tempestuous marriage.
7) Incanus: Northern secret agent from Spain can usurp.
8) Took home for extended break, reportedly.

[ August 21, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

Turambar · 08-21-2003, 08:13 PM

That makes more sense. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

#1 Elfhelm ?

#3 Andor ? (Elvish for land of gift*)

#6 Erendis ? (no idea why [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img], except that it's a near-anagram of riders)

* EDIT: or Yôzâyan, same meaning but in Adûnaic (the "language of the locals") ?

[ August 21, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 08-22-2003, 07:07 AM

2 - Mathom
6 - Uinen
8 - Long Cleeve

I think the password is Emyn Muil

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-22-2003, 07:16 AM

Well done, Turambar and Squatter. Between you, you seem to have solved most of them.

1) Elfhelm: Soldier of the Eldar takes protective headgear.
2) Mathom: It may be useless, but it has sentimental value.
3) Yôzâyan: Present realm in the language of the locals.
4) ? Originally, this secret was believed to hold a birthday gift.
5) ? Might this fellow of the land one day take flight?
6) Uinen: Nine erratically follow head of Umbar to see partner in a tempestuous marriage.
7) Incanus: Northern secret agent from Spain can usurp.
8) Long Cleeve: Took home for extended break, reportedly.

And well Done Squatter for getting the Password. It is indeed Emyn Muil. Your turn next [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

But, in the meantime, #s 4 and 5 remain to be solved ...

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 08-22-2003, 08:44 AM

5 - Maggot

And (guessing wildly) 4 - Ninglor

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-22-2003, 10:42 AM

Maggot is correct. Ninglor, I'm afraid, is not - although you have the right birthday gift.

08-11-2003, 06:37 AM	#9
Lyra Greenleaf The Diaphanous Dryad Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: R toL: 531, past the wild path Posts: 1,152	I'll go for Ondolinde for number 2, perhaps? __________________ “Sylphs of the forest,” I whispered. “Spirits of oak, beech and ash. Dryads of Rowan and hazel, hear us. You who have guided and guarded our every footstep, you who have sheltered our growth, we honour you." the Forbidden Link

08-11-2003, 07:22 AM	#11
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	3) Bergil- gerbil "confused" 7) Withywindle- sourced HERE in the Barrow-downs [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] 9) Rumil- the ole Loremaster himself Your password is GOBLIN WARS Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

08-11-2003, 07:24 AM	#12
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Great job Sophia !! "Bergil" also includes gil = "star". Of course, next time there will be no extra hints. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] You can start concocting your puzzle while the last few clues are solved (which should be even easier now that everyone knows the first letters). [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [ August 11, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-12-2003, 09:31 AM	#13
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	A few more guesses... (1) Glirhuin (5) Idril Celebrindal __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

08-12-2003, 09:38 AM	#14
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Yes on both accounts! Glirhuin (a near anagram of hurling) was the seer/harper of Brethil who prophesied that the Stone of the Hapless would never be destroyed; in fact it survived the War of Wrath as Tol Morwen. Idril had golden hair and was nicknamed Celebrindal, "silver-foot". Only # 4 to go -- c'mon, it's as easy as ABC. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [ August 15, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-07-2003, 11:16 PM	#1
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Password This is a new game. I freely admit to having stolen the idea from another Tolkien board. The rules are as follows: 1. The questioner gives a series of questions, each leading to an answer (which the questioner will confirm when guessed). 2. The first letters of the answers form the Password (see example below). 3. Traditionally, the questions can be (but aren't required to be) on the tricksy side, and can include “cryptic clues”, as well summarized by The Saucepan Man here (i.e., anagrams, synonyms, "sounds like" clues, etc.) 4. The first person to guess the “Password” wins the game, although you still have to solve any remaining questions. 5. Once the game gets going (if it does get going), you’re allowed to tinker with Rule #2. [ Simple example: (1) Noldor, Sindar or Vanyar. (2) First Telerin deserter. (3) Monsters of the Last Desert. (4) Not a man, to the Witch King’s regret. Answers: (1) Elf. (2) Lenwë. (3) Wereworms. (4) Éowyn. Password: ELWË. - - - - - - - - - - - Here’s a first puzzle: (1) The Nostradamus of Brethil, last seen hurling a sad prophecy. (2) City that played the Stones’ hits. (3) Young star of Gondor, or a confused pet rodent? (4) From Edith to Priscilla. (5) (She was) gold on top, silver on the bottom. (6) Fair land between two rivers, did Peregrin visit here when muddled? (7) It flows from . . . here. (8) Soul man with a broken crown, figuratively. Lightning was spotted there. (9) Scholar, linguist, poet of the Elder Days. But he didn’t smoke a pipe. (10) One needs to be a porter to pass here. [ August 20, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly. Last edited by Turambar; 03-29-2006 at 05:28 AM.

08-08-2003, 11:45 AM	#2
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	I'll venture three guesses: (1) Brandir (6) Eregion, perhaps? (7) Could it be Morthond? __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

08-08-2003, 01:40 PM	#3
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Rats ! All three wrong. But thanks for trying, I thought this game might die an early death. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] You're on the right track (i.e. in the right place in the Silmarillion), I think, for #1. But Brandir wasn't a seer, was he? For #6 -- see Saucepan Man's post (linked above) for the "cryptic" meaning of "muddled". [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] HINT: what was Peregrin's title? For #7 -- No, FROM HERE. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [ August 09, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-09-2003, 04:54 PM	#4
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	Okay, thanks for the clues! Now I believe I know the answer to two of them: (1) Glaurung? (6) This would be the Naith of Lorien __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

08-09-2003, 05:02 PM	#5
Arestevana Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: West over water Posts: 486	(8) Amon Sul? As A mon = man sul = soul? Frodo saw lightning on the hill when Gandalf was fighting off the Nazgul. Edit: You have a point, Luthien_Tinuviel. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Silly of me not to notice. This is a great game! [ August 09, 2003: Message edited by: Arestevana ]

08-09-2003, 05:36 PM	#6
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	Arestevana, I think you're right, because "soul man" fits perfectly as an anagram for "Amon Sul". __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

08-10-2003, 09:54 AM	#7
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	I will venture a guess at 9 and 10: 9- Pengolodh 10- Rath Dinen (or perhaps Sarn Gebir-- where the fellowship had to carry the boats over a "portage way"?) Also, if it helps someone figure out "Edith" was Tolkien's wife, and "Priscilla" was his daughter. I can't get the clue, however. Sophia [ August 10, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ] __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

08-11-2003, 06:18 AM	#8
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	The corect guesses are noted below: (1) Glirhuin (A harping seer of Brethil, last seen hurling a sad prophecy.) (2) Ondolindë (City that played the Stones’ hits.) (3) Bergil (Young star of Gondor, or a confused pet rodent?) (4) From Edith to Priscilla. <-- (5) Idril ((She was) gold on top, silver on the bottom.) (6) Naith (Fair land between two rivers, did Peregrin visit here when muddled?) (7) Withywindle (It flows from . . . here.) (8) Amon Sûl (Soul man with a broken crown, figuratively. Lightning was spotted there.) (9) Rúmil (Scholar, linguist, poet of the Elder Days. But he didn’t smoke a pipe. (10) Sarn Gebir (One needs to be a porter to pass here.) HINT: (4) One of Tolkien's "works", sort of. [ August 12, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-11-2003, 06:50 AM	#10
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Correct ! __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-13-2003, 02:08 PM	#15
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Well, J.R.R.T. called Edith his "Luthien" quite often..and it fits the L, I just can't think of a phrase to go with it that fits the "Priscilla" part..

08-14-2003, 12:52 PM	#16
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Since I'm looking forward to Sophia's new Password puzzle, I'll just give the last answer. It is Letters of JRR Tolkien. (In this book, the first is to Edith, and the last to Priscilla.) Sophia, you're up ! __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-15-2003, 06:30 AM	#17
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	(dragon bump) __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-15-2003, 09:30 AM	#18
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	Okay, now that you gave it away, it's "letter" (or letters... whichever you prefer...). [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

08-18-2003, 06:54 AM	#19
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Sophia ? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-18-2003, 06:59 PM	#20
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	What a great game, Turambar. [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] Seems to me that the questions making up the Password can draw on many of the other types of game in the forum (straight trivia, riddles, cryptic, words in words etc). Might I make one suggestion, though? It would be helpful if the question-setter could post the list of questions, with any correct answers already given, when confirming each correct answer. Otherwise, it might become a bit difficult keeping track of which questions have been answered correctly and which haven't. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-18-2003, 08:28 PM	#21
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	I agree with you about how the questions could be of any type; my initial post should have just said, Be warned that "cryptic" clues are fair game (though not required). As for your suggestion -- I agree there too, and I did do that, by continually editing the original post (to fill in correctly guessed clues). If it had gone to the next page, i would have re-posted the whole list. So where's Sophia? I WANT A NEW PASSWORD !!! __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-19-2003, 06:06 PM	#22
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Heh, here I am. Sorry for the delay, I appreciated your message Turambar. New Password: 1. A ring without a finger, older than Mirdain craft 2. Little village with Triumphant Architecture followed by a famous film flight home 3. I log lags, Lord they mix me up! 4. Elven Summer, or maybe song... 5. Nothing, Right? Nothing. Just the Mountain Fair without Val. 6. Title of what begins with "once again" but is clearly not as old. 7. Underground grins. 8. Green with envy initially, then blown to either's mate (love hurts, you see...). 9. The Forest Lord's first choice is uncooked! 10. Hobbit town, frequented by seamstresses and the thirsty. Some of these are really hard! I'm sorry guys. Hints will be available as needed. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

08-20-2003, 06:59 AM	#23
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Yay !! #1 Morgoth's Ring, or Arda ? #4 Laer, or Lairë ? [ August 20, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-20-2003, 10:19 AM	#24
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	So far I have 2: Archet 5: Orocarni 7: Smials 9: Araw __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

08-20-2003, 10:30 AM	#25
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Apparently these aren't as ridiculously hard as I thought they were. 1. A ring without a finger, older than Mirdain craft 2. Archet Little village with Triumphant Architecture followed by a famous film flight home 3. I log lags, Lord they mix me up! 4. Laer Elven Summer, or maybe song... 5. Orocarni Nothing, Right? Nothing. Just the Mountain Fair without Val. 6. Title of what begins with "once again" but is clearly not as old. 7. Smials Underground grins. 8. Green with envy initially, then blown to either's mate (love hurts, you see...). 9. Araw The Forest Lord's first choice is uncooked! 10. Hobbit town, frequented by seamstresses and the thirsty. Keep working on #1 Turambar. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

08-20-2003, 10:43 AM	#26
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	#10 is Pincup (Finally a clue I got - could writing seamstresses have something to do with it? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] ) __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

08-20-2003, 11:04 AM	#27
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	#1 is Mahanaxar, also known as "The Ring of Doom". __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

08-20-2003, 11:16 AM	#28
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	To add to the growing list: #1 is Mahanaxar, the Ring of Doom outside Valimar wherein the Valar sat in council. #3 is Golasgil (anagram of I log lags), Lord of Anfalas. #6 is Renewer, the meaning of Aragorn's title, Evinyatar. The Password is Maglor's Gap. But I can't for the life of me think what #8 is. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-20-2003, 12:15 PM	#29
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	All correct. 1. Mahanaxar A ring without a finger, older than Mirdain craft 2. Archet Little village with Triumphant Architecture followed by a famous film flight home 3. Golasgil I log lags, Lord they mix me up! 4. Laer Elven Summer, or maybe song... 5. Orocarni Nothing, Right? Nothing. Just the Mountain Fair without Val. 6. Renewer Title of what begins with "once again" but is clearly not as old. 7. Smials Underground grins. 8. Green with envy initially, then blown to either's mate (love hurts, you see...). 9. Araw The Forest Lord's first choice is uncooked! 10. Pincup Hobbit town, frequented by seamstresses and the thirsty. Saucy, the password is indeed Maglor's Gap! Shall I tell you what the answer to #8 is (odd, I thought it was easier than some of the others...)? Or shall I let you try to work it out? Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

08-20-2003, 02:28 PM	#30
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	#8 Gwindor ? (G.W. + wind + or) Sophia -- geez they made short work of that one, didn't they? We have some real cryptographers on this site, which makes sense now that I think of it (all the graves, you know). Can't wait to see SPM's puzzle. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-20-2003, 02:36 PM	#31
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Gwindor it is... Sheesh you guys are good... Nice new avatar, by the way, Turambar! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Take it away Saucepan. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

08-20-2003, 04:47 PM	#32
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	OK, bear with me folks. It might take me a day or two to concoct something. I'll edit it in when I've come up with it. Right, here it is. 1) Soldier of the Eldar takes protective headgear. 2) It may be useless, but it has sentimental value. 3) Present realm in the language of the locals. 4) Originally, this secret was believed to hold a birthday gift. 5) Might this fellow of the land one day take flight? 6) Nine erratically follow head of Umbar to see partner in a tempestuous marriage. 7) Northern secret agent from Spain can usurp. 8) Took home for extended break, reportedly. Going on past performance, I don't imagine that this one will cause too much difficulty. [ August 21, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-21-2003, 07:39 PM	#33
Voralphion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sharkey's End Posts: 267	2) Shards of Narsil ?? __________________ His sword was long his lance was keen His shining helm afar was seen The countless stars of heavens field Were mirrored in his silver shield

08-21-2003, 08:04 PM	#34
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	# 7 Incánus ? (Spain can usurp; Incánus meant "south spy" I think) [ August 21, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-21-2003, 08:05 PM	#35
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Useless? They were reforged to produce Anduril, which was a pretty useful weapon as I recall. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] So that's not the answer, I'm afraid. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] But you are correct on #7, Turambar (except it's "north spy"). 1) Soldier of the Eldar takes protective headgear. 2) It may be useless, but it has sentimental value. 3) Present realm in the language of the locals. 4) Originally, this secret was believed to hold a birthday gift. 5) Might this fellow of the land one day take flight? 6) Nine erratically follow head of Umbar to see partner in a tempestuous marriage. 7) Incanus: Northern secret agent from Spain can usurp. 8) Took home for extended break, reportedly. [ August 21, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!