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05-26-2018, 09:53 AM | #3801 |
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Hurray for teamwork!
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05-26-2018, 02:54 PM | #3802 |
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Indeed! Well done, all.
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05-28-2018, 04:29 PM | #3803 |
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So ... Huinesoron, is there another password on its way?
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05-30-2018, 03:44 AM | #3804 |
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Sorry! The one I was working on didn't quite come together, so you get a different one instead:
1. Element of stone: 8 + 19 = 649 (with extra A) 2. Element of discord: Cob + final + not my = last of 10. 3. Element of green: Not B = cog + +/- 4. Element of fire: Salt (not green) + spot (not out) = 1, and also 1 5. Element of water: First title + first name = first blasphemy. 6. Element of wood: Borrow I... - 500 = father of the namesake of the last before the king Well... you did ask! hS |
05-30-2018, 09:08 AM | #3805 |
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Arassuil was the father of Arathorn I, namesake of the last chieftain before the king.
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05-30-2018, 09:31 AM | #3806 |
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I'm afraid not - but you got the right king!
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05-30-2018, 09:40 AM | #3807 |
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Oh, maybe it's the two Denethors, then. Last steward before king. Denethor I was an elf, I think ... need to look him up.
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05-30-2018, 10:04 AM | #3808 |
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That seems to point to Lenwe, father of the other Denethor. I'm guessing a D is removed from something woodlike ... ened? enyd?
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05-30-2018, 10:06 AM | #3809 |
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1. Element of stone: 8 + 19 = 649 (with extra A)
2. Element of discord: Cob + final + not my = last of 10. 3. Element of green: Not B = cog + +/- 4. Element of fire: Salt (not green) + spot (not out) = 1, and also 1 5. Element of water: First title + first name = first blasphemy. 6.L ENWE - Element of wood: Borrow I... - 500 = father of the namesake of the last before the king Lenwe = Borrow I, lend we, minus D. Well found! hS |
05-30-2018, 10:15 AM | #3810 |
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But borrowing and lending are opposites!
It appears I need to ignore the element bits for now. Unless the password is made up of chemical symbols. No, hang on. Lithium is Li, I think. Maybe it means the answer has a bit of Lebethron in it.
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05-30-2018, 10:23 AM | #3811 |
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1. D C I L A
Hmmmmm.
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05-30-2018, 12:10 PM | #3812 |
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You're right; the clue should really have been 'Borrow you...'. But you got it anyway!
You have about half the answer for #1. hS |
05-31-2018, 08:52 AM | #3813 |
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Makes no sense that I can see to garner elements from VIII, XIX or XXVII.
But although there were 20 Great Rings, there were only 19 Great Rings *with stones.* I wonder if the stone element could be connected to that.
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06-01-2018, 02:09 AM | #3814 |
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8 and 19 are separate from each other.
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06-01-2018, 02:21 AM | #3815 |
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That doesn't say whether the Great Rings connection is wrong or not, because that's connected only to 19.
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06-01-2018, 04:39 AM | #3816 |
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That's true, it doesn't; I was hoping you'd come up with some wild theories based around the Rings before I had to tell you that they have nothing to do with it. But they have nothing to do with it.
Every clue includes both a straight part and a cryptic clue to the name. They are always separated by the = sign, though not necessarily always the same way round. Oh, and the elements are never part of the cryptic clue; think of them as bonus and very vague straight hints. (For instance, Lenwe lived in the woods...) hS |
06-01-2018, 05:41 PM | #3817 |
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1. The only thing I can find 8 of is the Aratar.
2. There are ten beacons. The last of them (going west to east) is Minlos.
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06-01-2018, 06:00 PM | #3818 |
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However, I wonder if 4 could be Amon Lontir (the first beacon going west to east). Because:
1. Connected with fire. 2. Contains TAR (sailor) for salt (not green as a salt is an old sailor, not a young, green one). 3. Contains IN. Monlo for spot? Oh, I don't know.
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06-01-2018, 06:05 PM | #3819 |
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Then again, 4 could be Ancalagon, which contains NaCl, a + a for 1 twice ....
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06-01-2018, 11:46 PM | #3820 |
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#1: But can you find 8 and 19 of them? (No. The answer's no.)
No beacons, no dragons (that wouldn't have worked anyway; you were taking anagram parts from both sides of the =.). But I am indeed a chemist. hS |
06-02-2018, 07:44 AM | #3821 |
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Fiddling with ur as in your as in not my finally gave 2. EARENDUR, tenth and last King of Arnor as a single kingdom.
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06-02-2018, 07:55 AM | #3822 |
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1. I'm tempted in the direction of kings that end in -dacil or even -andil. What I don't understand is where the rest of the clue comes from - the other half of the equation is not supposed to contribute to the cryptic part.
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06-02-2018, 07:56 AM | #3823 |
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Oh! Romendacil, as in Roman 649?
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06-02-2018, 12:02 PM | #3824 |
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Flipping heck! Well spotted, G55!
If it's right, the only regular password I can currently see is RINGIL.
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06-02-2018, 12:07 PM | #3825 |
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Insert Carly Simon's famous line here.
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06-02-2018, 04:09 PM | #3826 |
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1.R omendacil - Element of stone: 8 + 19 = 649 (with extra A)
2. E arendur - Element of discord: Cob + final + not my = last of 10. 3. Element of green: Not B = cog + +/- 4. Element of fire: Salt (not green) + spot (not out) = 1, and also 1 5. Element of water: First title + first name = first blasphemy. 6.L ENWE - Element of wood: Borrow I... - 500 = father of the namesake of the last before the king And just as Earendur was Arnorian king #10, Romendacil was Gondorian kings #8 and 19. Not Ringil. The password is connected to the theme. Oh, #5 kind of doesn't have a cryptic half. It's pretty much straight. hS |
06-02-2018, 07:17 PM | #3827 |
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Regnal?
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06-03-2018, 01:31 AM | #3828 |
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1.R OMENDACIL - Element of stone: 8 + 19 = 649 (with extra A)
2. E ARENDUR - Element of discord: Cob + final + not my = last of 10. 3. G - Element of green: Not B = cog + +/- 4. N - Element of fire: Salt (not green) + spot (not out) = 1, and also 1 5. A - Element of water: First title + first name = first blasphemy. 6.L ENWE - Element of wood: Borrow I... - 500 = father of the namesake of the last before the king Nice catch, Pervinca! Three to go. hS |
06-03-2018, 03:50 AM | #3829 |
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I only even tried that/knew of the word (through looking up synonyms) because I once used it as a (wrong) password guess for your horse-racing kings puzzle. I didn't think for one moment it would be correct!
... I think Lenwe was a lord/leader (of the Nandor) rather than a king. So perhaps the answers just have to be those who rule/lead, but not necessarily kings?
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4. N - Element of fire: Salt (not green) + spot (not out) = 1, and also 1.
I think this is NAIN. I guess chlorine is green, so take the green bit out of NaCl and add 'in.' No idea about the 'spot' bit. 1 + 1 ... I and AN/A? No idea about the fire element, either. Except two letters of 'naur' are in it.
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06-03-2018, 06:54 AM | #3831 |
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1.R OMENDACIL - Element of stone: 8 + 19 = 649 (with extra A)
2.E ARENDUR - Element of discord: Cob + final + not my = last of 10. 3.G - Element of green: Not B = cog + +/- 4.N AIN - Element of fire: Salt (not green) + spot (not out) = 1, and also 1 5.A - Element of water: First title + first name = first blasphemy. 6.L ENWE - Element of wood: Borrow I... - 500 = father of the namesake of the last before the king Na + the spot(=location) which is not out (ie, 'in'). The Nain I'm thinking of was the first of his name in Durin's line... and reigned for only a single year, before being killed by a balrog. 1, and also 1, and also fire. (He would have been stone, but Gondor already stole that.) hS |
06-03-2018, 07:34 AM | #3832 |
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Now, when I thought the password was Ringil, I thought 6 had something to do with Imin, the first elf to wake.
I think Adam must have something to do with it. There are only two names I could find with Adam in them. One of them is AMANDIL.
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If a cog can be an iron, the G one could possibly be GIRION.
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06-04-2018, 02:48 AM | #3834 |
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1.R OMENDACIL - Element of stone: 8 + 19 = 649 (with extra A)
2.E ARENDUR - Element of discord: Cob + final + not my = last of 10. 3.G IRION - Element of green: Not B = cog + +/- 4.N AIN - Element of fire: Salt (not green) + spot (not out) = 1, and also 1 5.A - Element of water: First title + first name = first blasphemy. 6.L ENWE - Element of wood: Borrow I... - 500 = father of the namesake of the last before the king A cog may be an iron, but it's definitely a gear, and a particle with a positive or negative charge is an ion. Gear-ion. ^_^ (He's also the only lord or king of Dale whose name doesn't start with a B.) #5 has nothing to do with Adam. It's an entirely in-universe clue. And the first title was not originally given to the subject of the clue. hS |
06-04-2018, 02:53 AM | #3835 |
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I tried gear first, but couldn't find what to do with the E.
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06-04-2018, 02:54 AM | #3836 |
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Ar- Pharazon?
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Maybe the blasphemy is to do with not observing prayer and silence on the Meneltarma. (The first to usurp the throne might also fit the bill, if usurping counts as blasphemy ... it was certainly regarded as evil).
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Nah, it's all about the name. ^_^
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You mean the first to have a certain name, not the first to commit blasphemy?
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