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Welcome Glorthelion. This is certain the place to exercise your enthusiasm for Tolkien once you've hit the books.
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Pilgrim Soul
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Certainly faster than I did when I really struggled with the books of lost tales as a teenager ..must try again..
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Would the letters of Tolkien be more interesting?
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More interesting than UT? Different. But certainly fascinating and very readable.
I would say that UT gives extra information nn things that fit fairly easily with the main stories as published in The Silmarilllion, Hobbit and LOTR. You get more information about Numenor, The wizards, the Battles of the Fords of Isen where Theoden's son, was killed, the Palantiri, Gandalf's meeting with Thorin, Isildur's death. I love it since I love the world of Middle Earth as shown in the main texts. The letters by their nature give some fascinating snippets when he answers specific questions from readers and also give an insight into his personality and life. Read both!!! Both can be dipped into. It may be helpful to read the Humphrey Carpenter biography too since he edited the letters and the letters are in chronological order. I happen to have read the bio ages ago and the letters relatively recently and I think having read the biography made the letters more interesting since you knew a bit aboout the correspondents.
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Aye, the Letters are interesting in not only providing some commentary from Tolkien, post-LOTR, but just thoughts about world affairs, other books, authors...etc.
I caution when using Letters to determine some new, hidden information about Tolkien's story, though. Tolkien admits when responding to fans' questions, a lot of what he wrote could have been as long as 30-40 years ago, so he may misremember something, or what he consciously reflects upon after having written the story might be completely different. That's not so much of a problem with Letters, more a note-to-self when reading them. Personally, I find the stuff in Letters more interesting then reading his early draft material, but that's just individual preference. ![]()
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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*lurking* hello all....it's been awhile
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The Return of Valier!
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Squeeee!
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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crescendo.
Hello, I'm crescendo., yes the period is there on purpose. I am MCRmyGirl4eva's older and wiser sister. I thoroughly love the Lord Of The Rings series as movies and enjoyed the books, though my sister tried to get me to read TTT's first, but I have this thing where I jsut can't pick up something in the middle. It may have to do with the fact that my dad made me read the second Harry Potter book first. Anyway, I think I am rambling.
Erm.. let's see... I am going to college in the fall and getting a degree in creative writing, and I adore Glee with a passion... sorry folks, I love it more than I love LOTR. I listen to a lot of music and my favorite bands are Evanescence, My Chemical Romance, Avenged Sevenfold, Halestorm, Nightwish, and a lot more. If you have an questions for me, just ask.
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Welcome, crescendo.! Always happy to have more dead wightsies around!
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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This Is Mcr, Not Cres! (Or perhaps both)
(I hate that nickname, so unless someone comes up with better I'd prefer to be known as crescendo.)
It's not like I wanted her to join. I asked her not to. She joined nonetheless, because apparently nothing is sacred. So if any of you downers come accross an argument on the forums, just keep in mind that crescendo. and MCR must share a bedroom. (Puh-lease, I've used your account a couple times before so I decided that I prefer to use my own. You broken the bounds of places being sacred before... i.e. my own site Driel: May I call you that? Well, obviously your siblings don't have good taste in reading material... hopefully they will learn ![]()
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My siblings liked LOTR, and my sister even read The Hobbit. But they have a profound dislike for the Downs, because of things like this: sibling: can you play with me? me: no. sibling: why? Are you busy? me: mmmmm... sibling: are you on that stupid old Tolkiennutted site again?! ![]()
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Lol! You never directly answered yes or no. Do you prefer on of the other ones?
Ahh makes sense, that's how I used to be with an MCR forum before all the good members left. *pouts* I miss them. Ohh... maybe they will join just to annoy you... think about it!
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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"It is also said, 'do not go to the elves for advice for they will say both yes and no'"
Maybe I will just call you Elf... or Octopus, lol!! You could move out or whatever when you are older. -grins evilly-
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Welcome to the Downs, crescendo, and welcome back, Valier!
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Zigûr
Hello, call me Zigûr, which as I'm sure many of you know is Adûnaic for "the Wizard" and was a Númenórean name for Sauron. I've been lurking on these forums for a little while now, especially enjoying the excellent "Microphones in Middle-earth" thread. Professor Tolkien's work is one of the great passions in my life, having been introduced to it by my mother reading "An Unexpected Party" to me when I was ten years old, after which I enthusiastically devoured the rest of The Hobbit on my own, moved onto The Lord of the Rings and even attempted The Silmarillion, although it wasn't until several years later that I was old enough to understand it and read it properly. While many of my friends have read the books and are as familiar as everyone is these days with the films, I find that I don't really have anyone close at hand with which I can discuss the Professor's work in detail. Given this fact and that I have certain ponderances regarding Middle-earth and Arda as a whole I decided I would join the forum.
In addition to this, last year I completed my Honours degree in English with a thesis on The Lord of the Rings and am currently working on a Masters thesis examining the greater breadth of Professor Tolkien's work. While I am, as I have said, a great enthusiast for the literary material I'm afraid I don't have much patience for the films, which to my mind make too many changes in terms of tone and style to The Lord of the Rings. I also lament their significant loss and questionable rearrangement of Professor Tolkien's language and rich, unique prose, which has always been one of the most attractive elements of the book to me. |
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Welcome, Zigûr! Sounds like you'll be a great contributor here, and I look forward to seeing you around the threads.
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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If you listen very closely, you can hear the sound of stampeding feet as people clamor to this site as the opening day for The Hobbit approaches...
*hides in Legolas's bedroom* *Gets dragged out by ankles* L: "What are you doing in here?!?" MCR: "I was just trimming the grass, under the window there, if you follow me..." *Gets released in surprise at the comment* *Runs like hell to avoid being killed*
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Welcome aboard, Zigur! With such an attitude towards the movies you'll find yourself quite at home here...
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Where else but the Shire
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Hi!! Ninde Lossehelin here.. i got that name when i put my real name in an elvish name generator.. so im not even sure what it means.. Please tell me if anyone know
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Pilgrim Soul
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It is a bit random. It is Quenya. Ninde means slender, losse is fallen snow and helin is a violet (flower).
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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Yeylo all, doing things a tad backwards posting elsewhere before here, but a little jumble never hurt anyone I like to think!
Anyway Draugohtar is an old name I cobbled together for WoW of all things. Thankfully that game is in my past now (though not MMO's entirely!) but the name is a constant for me. (Otherwise call me Will - if you remember, well done you!) Anyway I'm an old time Tolkien nut, and it's nice to have a place to come and lament the lack of speaking Eagles in the PJ-versions :P |
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Welcome to the Downs, Zigûr, Ninde Lossehelin and Draugohtar!
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Join Date: May 2002
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Welcome, welcome to those newly dead.
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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I am never here always adventuring off somewhere.
I am called VarTalman firstborn son of the Talman the Strong. I spent my childhood an outcast among the shorter peoples of Middle Earth. I felt not made for this world. I seemed stretched out of shape. I am considered wise and learned until I say something foolish. I do so enjoy the fine tales of Hobbit lore. I come here to share. My wife and our herds all listen intently to tales well told. I wield no weapon beyond my books. I study myth and religion. I am 34 years-a giant among men and weighing in at nearly 400 pounds. To others, I may seem frightening. There is fire in my eyes and loud words. But I also give the best, most-encompassing hugs of all my people. It is great to join this fellowship! VarTalman |
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Welcome, VarTalman! Hope you find the road that has led you here was a lucky one, one of the roads leading to the better places. At least us, who have been dwelling in this place for ages uncounted, can testify of it being a most pleasant place, and suitable whether you prefer talking about deep topics, or fun, or just reading and thinking quietly, or a pleasant mixture of them all...
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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Aerandir here. I just recently found this forum from a link in the Third Age Total War Tolkien Discussion thread and am pleased that I did find it.
A couple years ago I was scanning the bookshelf in the house, and found The Lord of the Rings books and The Hobbit. Of course I had seen the movies but never read it. Over the course of these years I had been collecting a bunch of Tolkien's works including those silly adventures in the Tales from the Perilous Realm. Though I can't recite any of those crazy Bombadil songs/poems/whatever you want to call them, I consider myself a huge Tolkien nerd. Currently I am re-reading The Children of Hurin. I had all but given up hope on a good Tolkien themed forum and found this! For those of you curious about my name, Aerandir was one of the three mariners who sailed with Eärendil and means 'Sea Wanderer'. Despite my name I remain to be a huge fan of Dunland and Rohan. I hope to enjoy my time on this wonderful forum! |
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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Welcome, Aerandir!
Any self-proclaimed Tolkien Nerd ought to be right at home here. ![]() Have fun!
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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I second that welcome! We like Tolkien nerds here.
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Hi there!
I've found this forum when I completed a personality test about LOTR characters. I am a huge Tolkien fan, from Spain, so, if I make mistakes when writing, that's because I don't have a high level on English. See you!
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Welcome! And Inzil is right.. so don't worry about it!
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I thirds that. Welcome to the Downs, Erulisse! No worries about your English.
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Hi, just joined this forum. Being an avid reader of sci-fi and fantasy, I hope to find kindred spirits here.
Big fan of the works of Asimov, Burroughs, Raymond, Lewis and of course Tolkien. Three hobbit movies, now that's going to be a stretch, hey?
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Welcome, Unforgiven! We're glad to have you.
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Hi everyone just joined the forum after several months of nosy lurking. Having been introduced to Tolkien through Peter Jackson's LOTR film's I've gradually grown into something of a Tolkien Obssesive (i.e Tolkien Nerd)-I'm currently working my way through the H.O.M.E whilst re-reading The Hobbit and The Children of Hurin. I can't wait for The Hobbit Films (though I'm a bit unsure about three films-I can see why three was needed-otherwise Dol Goldur, Smaug and BOFA would overstuff the second film, but all the same its a little worrying...)
Once I came across this great community I knew it would only be a matter of time before I joined. For The record my Favourite Tolkien Character is Cirdan The Shipwright and my favourite book being The Silmarillion (which I have no interest in seeing a film of) One question though- Are we allowed to post links to our own blogs or wesbites if they are Tolkien related? I have written a long essay on Cirdan the Shipwright for my Blog and was planning on using the link as a way to kickstart a discussion about the mysterious (and personal favourite) character, but as it is a personal wesbite and cites numerous references and extracts from Tolkien's books, I was unsure whether this intrudes on copyright or privacy laws set by the website. In anycase...great wesbite and I look forward to being a regular contributor! |
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